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January 17, 2008, 6:25 pm PST

Two sides

Quote From: ampugs

   What do you do when the mother won't allow the son to use the phone, go out of the house, get a driver's license, or go anywhere without her?  He's 36 years old, but regresses to about 6 when she starts in on him.  He's not allowed to have friends.  He works full time.  He gives her most of his money.  Most of the time she sits in the driveway where he works so he doesn't talk to anyone else. She has him completely intimidated.  A little bit of a twist on this topic.
It  sounds like the son has some things going on too.  He may not like the control his mother has over him, but he is not willing bite the bullet and tell her he needs his freedom.  I do understand how parents can make you feel guilty, I grew up that way.  But, you just have to put down your foot and say, "I need my own life."  I had to do just that, but I was a lot yunger than this guy.  My parents actually did not speak to me for about 3 months after I left, but we are all the better for it today.
 
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January 17, 2008, 6:39 pm PST

Happening here too

Quote From: clarpa

 I really feel for you! I lived through this. My sister did this to my parents who spent their money on keeping her up. . But my sister fell apart, and my parents eventually fell apart, the stress was overwhelming. Only someone in this situation could understand.  my parents were unable to save any  money to retire on, and they eventually worked until my father developed cancer and had to quit..   My parents aged and grieved over my sister and I knew her addiction was a sickness, but it was so hard on them...I only wish she would have stopped and seen what she was doing to them .The only thing I can suggest is that your parents need to come down on her the DR PHIL WAY, he has so much wisdom, and I wish he had his books and show when my family went down this road.  If  your parents  enable her, they will continue to suffer emotionally and financially;.They need PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE, IT IS A VERY TOUGH THING TO DEAL WITH.  
 My parents have been supporting my two brothers, 41 and 39.  My parents have five children, two girls and three boys.  My sister, my brother and I moved out years ago.  But my two youngest brothers did not.  Neither one has ever been out on their own, and it is infuriating to have to watch my 78 year old day shovel snow and mow the grass.  They do not help my parents in the least.  They don't think they are taking advantage of my parents, in fact, they are super-critical of the three children who did go out and make lives for themselves.  If I do as my parents for help, like to borrow my dad's car when mine is in the shop, they complain to Mom and Dad how I am taking advantage of my parents.  They are causing a definite rift in the family, and my parents seem very frustrated.  They will be celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary in the next year, and they would like to celebrate.  However, my two brothers living with them will not talk to us about preparation.  In fact, they do not talk to us, the three oldest, at all.  How do you tell an elderly couple not in the best of health to get tough and give their sons notice?
 
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January 17, 2008, 6:55 pm PST

Job Appropriate

Quote From: sabteach

I absolutely agree that Mike needs to get a job, but I was very disappointed that Dr. Phil did not stress that Amanda should also gt a job.  Mike was complaining that you can't take care of a family at $8.00 /hr, I worked at min. wage jobs while I paid my own way through college and paid for my car so I could get a good job.  I have worked since I was 16, I have 2 happy healthy well adjusted kids.  Amanda can go to work too, and I am more then a little disappointed that Dr. Phil didn't address that more then just in passing
I find it amusing that these people, with not skills, education beyond high school ( I hope), expect to get the best jobs.  Who was their guidance counselor?  I was always told that if I wanted to make top wages, I needs to have top education and training. 
 
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January 17, 2008, 6:58 pm PST

Enablers

Quote From: tiffany_2007

This first story reminds me of my sister so much, she lives in one of my parents rentals. She pays 300 when the rent usually goes for 750 (atleast it did 7 years ago). By the way the rental house is right next to my parents, and she is always calling them up and making them do fixes on the house. My sister even lived there for rent free for 2 years (she has been there for 7 going on 8 years now). She has 2 children, she actally takes naps during the day, she is 32 years olds. While watching this show, I told my mom I have thought about calling Dr Phil on this subject, but I know my mother woud hate me for putting this on TV, so I never did, even though I think Dr Phil could do alot of great help with this. Where the story differs is this isn't a money problem really, this is about my sister not taking charge of her life. She will not learn how to drive, and use to make my dad drive her into town, till 3 years ago when he said no more. She never thanks my mother for anything and completely disrespects our father.

 

I feel so sorry for this old couple that has immature children. Dr Phil is right they have to kick these adults out. There is one thing to live with your parents to get short term help, there is another to just live off of them. I feel very sorry for my parents as well, and its caused anger from me to my sister. My parents have never been able to take a vacation, because of her. My mother is scared to death that one of the children will get hurt and my sister will not know what to do. BTW my parents have 3 daughters 32, 31, and 25 (me). They are not suppose to still be taking care of kids.

These parents that allow themselves to be taken advantage of are enabling these behaviors from their children.  I wonder if these children have done this their whole lives.  These kids are doing what has worked for them; they see no reason to change their behaviors.
 

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