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January 30, 2008, 1:17 pm PST

My life everyone is talking about.

First and foremost.... I'm a human with feelings! I DO believe in God! I pray just like the rest of  the God fearing AMERICA... I'm a mother of 5 and a grandmother of 4. A daughter of a disabled mother whom I take care of , a sister, a wife, a daughter -in- law, and so on.

 

I don't shout it from the roof tops to the world on a daily basis but, since it's the Hot Topic of the day here it is.... I'm a swinger! I just feel compelled to defend my cohorts.

 

Four years ago my husband and I wanted to try something new. We were NOT having problems. We did NOT either one feel the need for "fresh meat". We did NOT and still do NOT want a divorce and it does NOT effect either one of us in ANY negative way. We are NOT insecure in our relationship. We are NOT unhappy with ourselves nor do we have a poor self esteem. We LOVE each other more each new day that we are living. Not because swinging brought us closer or because of any other reason other than we are truly IN LOVE with each other more and more each day.  We came to the decision together to look after talking about fantasies like most American couples. The difference is, is that we followed through with them and others may not. They simply remain a fantasy.   

 

We did not tell anyone for a long time about what we liked to do behind PRIVATE doors. When the decision was made to talk with someone about it, this is what happened. One of my husband's sisters told our youngest daughter (15 at the time) and my husband's mother. It caused a huge fight and his entire family blamed me as if I was the one who initiated it. His Mother spouted the Bible and God in my face as if I am an evil doer of the devil. This is a woman that didn't step a foot in a church until a few years ago and raised her children from the other end of a bar phone. (cast the first stone?) All the same, it put me into a deep depression and I lost a few weeks of work because of what they said and did to me. Let alone the fact that they unleashed our " private sex lifestyle" to our young impressionable daughter. Does anyone in their right mind believe we want those visions and thoughts in her head? I still can't understand why anyone would tell our child this. .... Moving on.....

 

Because my town is so small, I felt compelled to talk with my own Mother about my "lifestyle" choices. My father had recently passed away prior to my confession so it was just my mother. My beautiful open minded Mother... what a wonderful open armed answer she gave me ....... She called me by my name and said "If this is what you do, you are happy, and you love your husband  then I support you" She hadn't one mean word to say to me. She was behind me and held me in her arms while I cried to her about  the way my in-laws were treating me. 

 

The news hit "the family" two years ago. We have five children ages 23,21,18,17, & 12. All but the 12 year old know. Did we tell them? We had to after my husbands family knew. His family spreads all over the State of Ohio and they all knew with in 24 hours so we had to tell them to "protect" them...  Did we want them involved in our sex life? NO but we had no choice to say after we were "out of the closet" ..... How do they feel about us? They love us and support us no matter what we do. Must have raised them right!

 

Since the "coming out party" just about everyone we know really well knows we are swingers. The only ones that don't know are my co-workers. I work for the local Hospital and my husband works for one of the most elite colleges here in Ohio. His co-workers know and love the idea. I'd simply die if my co-workers and boss knew. Why? Because they are all very Conservative and close minded people. I have enough issues, drama, chaos in my life to add this to the mix.

 

This seems to be new to most people but it's actually been around for centuries. I have to remind all those Baby boomer's of the KEY PARTIES!!!!!

 

And to all the minorities in the world.. I do feel a miniature amount of your pain.. If it's your skin color, religion, race, sexual preference that keeps you locked out of society then God be with you all. I've had a small taste of discrimination and it's a terrible feeling!

 

Sincerely,

 open minded

 

 
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January 30, 2008, 1:44 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: daisy35

  I am happily married w/ 2 great kids.  I have always been the type of person to believe that whatever it is you wish to do and you are harming no one...go right ahead.  But everyone always has their own opinion.  I do not feel that being a swinger is a correct thing to do.  You take your vows to be w/ that one particular person and then you're not.  To each their own, but I feel it is wrong.  As Dr.Phil would say, "It is wrong at so many levels."  I enjoy very much being w/ my husband, I wouldn't have it any other way.  People are looking to spice things up or looking for a change. So talk to your spouse about it and make a change but notto include others into your bedroom.  The swingers that were on the show (NITA) she claims it works but yet was having issues.  She contridicted herself several times just to prove that it doesn't work and that it is wrong.

 

K.B. xoxo

I agree that the couples on the show had problems. But I don't agree that swinging got them there. I'd agree to say it might have gotten them there quicker but, it would have happened either way. 

 

I don't believe in hurting ones spouse in ANY circumstance. If one person wants a particular life style and the other one doesn't then I feel they are doomed. People change and grow through the years. If they don't do that together then they won't last. Period..... If someone agrees and they really don't feel that way, it's not the truth and it will just eat at them until something else emerges to cause the break.

 

For those that get divorced or fall in love with others while being in the lifestyle, they had problems WAY before they even posted an ad or looked for others to come into their relationship. 

 

People need to stand up and show responsibility for their own lives and actions instead of trying to blame events or people for their misfortune. Be honest with yourself and then move forward from there. For example... "Doctor, I've been gaining all this weight because my husband is such a wonderful cook". Is it her husband's fault she gained 40lbs or is it hers????

 

As far as the quote the life style is "wrong on so many levels".... Will someone please explain what those are because I feel a need to defend myself here and don't know how since it's not been clear.

 

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January 30, 2008, 2:31 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: ramair

Renee is afraid, if she doesn't cave into Brent's demands that she join him in a threesome, he'll leave her. Is hanging onto that sicko pervert worth engaging in something that so obviously digusts her? She ought to stand her ground. If  Brent leaves Renee, he'll be doing her a favor. She ought to do herself the favor. By throwing that rotten fish back into the cess-pool.

 

 

He will be leaving her even if she does say yes... She will be miserable and subconsciously do things to make the marriage terrible at no fault of her own.

 

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January 30, 2008, 2:49 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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This situation happened to unfold itself in our "family". Thankfully she divorced herself from the lying, cheating, sick man and let him spiral out of control by himself. But comes the point of all the chaos being brought into the home amongst the children. How do you explain the lifestyle to the children and also justify the expenses taken away from the family. It seems so selfish when you are a parent to put someone else through this, when they didn't ask for this shame of your lifestyle choices. Just how deep persay is your fixation with this "lifestyle" willing to go? Online advertising, group chat rooms, random dates out of personal ads... are you willing to be busted by an undercover agent? This fool did and that is how his life became aparent to his new bride/new mother and family who never saw the signs of his addictions. Is this really a personality disorder or are you just fulfulling some deeper need within your self?

I mean no disrespect but that was one man and the "lifestyle" didn't make him the jerk... He was already that way before hand.  I don't think that swinging is a personality disorder. 

 

People need to stop putting blame on events or things in life and take responsibility for their own actions.

 

What your ex brother in law did was wrong but one can't blame it on other people.

 

There are men that beat their wives.. who do you blame?

 

There are men that gamble their life savings away... who do you blame?

 

There are men that love to have sex with other men... who do you blame? Is this a fault? lol I don't think so but a lot of other close minded people probably do.

 

You should be looking at his character instead of what his sexual preferences were. It's not the fault of the lifestyle it's the man himself.

 
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January 30, 2008, 3:04 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: cfnamier

Last Saturday night my wife and I went to dinner with another couple in the lifestyle. We ate, and danced and then went to their house. He is a retired, decorated veteran who was in the US Air Force for 25 years and earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star.

 

While the ladies were playing with each other he and I shot some pool and talked.

 

When he was 20 he did a year in Viet Nam as a sniper sitting at the edge of air bases making sure no unfriendly folks snuck onto the air base. He killed about 100 enemy soldiers and was told by his Chaplin that God would forgive him because he was under orders to kill by the President of these United States.

 

He laughed long and hard when I told him that some people on the Dr Phil board thought he and I  would be going to Hell for having sex with each others wife.

 

He figures he has a lot more to important issues to talk to God about.

 

So the question is was the Chaplin wrong about breaking the *not kill* commandment and still be able to get God to forgive? Or will he be forgiven for the killings and then sent to Hell for having consensual sex with my 54 year old wife, he is 58

All I have to say is..............

 

 

GOD LOVE ya.... and Amen...

 

 

There couldn't have been a more real life story to put all  this into perspective . Oh "Thank you SO MUCH for saving our butts by going to war and killing all those folks so we could live free and safe but, by God, keep your hands off your friends wife even if they both say please take her"

 

 

 

 

 
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January 30, 2008, 3:29 pm PST

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My life everyone is talking about.

 

First and foremost.... I'm a human with feelings! I DO believe in God! I pray just like the rest of the God fearing AMERICA... I'm a mother of 5 and a grandmother of 4. A daughter of a disabled mother whom I take care of , a sister, a wife, a daughter -in- law, and so on.

 

I don't shout it from the roof tops to the world on a daily basis but, since it's the Hot Topic of the day here it is.... I'm a swinger! I just feel compelled to defend my cohorts.

 

 Four years ago my husband and I wanted to try something new. We were NOT having problems. We did NOT either one feel the need for "fresh meat". We did NOT and still do NOT want a divorce and it does NOT effect either one of us in ANY negative way. We are NOT insecure in our relationship. We are NOT unhappy with ourselves nor do we have a poor self esteem. We LOVE each other more each new day that we are living. Not because swinging brought us closer or because of any other reason other than we are truly IN LOVE with each other more and more each day. We came to the decision together to look after talking about fantasies like most American couples. The difference is,  that we followed through with them and others may not have. They simply remain a fantasy to them and not us.

 

 We did not tell anyone for a long time about what we liked to do behind PRIVATE doors. When the decision was made to talk with someone about it, this is what happened. One of my husband's sisters told our youngest daughter (15 at the time) and my husband's mother. It caused a huge fight and his entire family blamed me as if I was the one who initiated it. His Mother spouted the Bible and God in my face as if I am an evil doer of the devil. This is a woman that didn't step a foot in a church until a few years ago and raised her children from the other end of a bar phone. (cast the first stone?) All the same, it put me into a deep depression and I lost a few weeks of work because of what they said and did to me. Let alone the fact that they unleashed our " private sex lifestyle" to our young impressionable daughter. Does anyone in their right mind believe we want those visions and thoughts in her head? I still can't understand why anyone would tell our child this. ....

 

Moving on.....

 

Because my town is so small, I felt compelled to talk with my own Mother about my "lifestyle" choices before someone esle did. My father had recently passed away prior to my confession so it was just my mother. My beautiful open minded Mother... what a wonderful open armed answer she gave me ....... She called me by my name and said "If this is what you do, you are happy, and you love your husband then I support you" She hadn't one mean word to say to me. She was behind me and held me in her arms while I cried to her about the way my in-laws were treating me.

 

The news hit "the family" two years ago. We have five children ages 23,21,18,17, & 12. All but the 12 year old know. Did we tell them? We had to after my husbands family knew. His family spreads all over the State of Ohio and they all knew with in 24 hours so we had to tell them to "protect" them... Did we want them involved in our sex life? NO but we had no choice to tell them after we were "out of the closet" with hubby's family ..... How do they feel about us? They love us and support us no matter what we do. Must have raised them right  !

 

Since the "coming out party" just about everyone we know really well knows we are swingers. The only ones that don't know are my co-workers. I work for the local Hospital and my husband works for one of the most elite colleges here in Ohio. His co-workers know and love the idea. I'd simply die if my co-workers and boss knew. Why? Because they are all very Conservative and close minded people. I have enough issues, drama, chaos in my life to add this to the mix.

 

This seems to be new to most people but it's actually been around for centuries. I have to remind all those Baby boomer's of the KEY PARTIES!!!!!

 

 

And to all the minorities in the world.. I do feel a miniature amount of your pain.. If it's your skin color, religion, race, sexual preference that keeps you locked out of society then God be with you all. I've had a small taste of discrimination and it's a terrible feeling!

 

Sincerely,

open minded

 

 
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January 30, 2008, 3:34 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: farmgirl7

swingers are addicted to sex, it is as simple as that.  My friend is 26 now, but from age 5 to 11, she was molested and druged by her father.  She is now a swinger, and bi-sexual, and think she likes it.  Not, she kicks holes in walls on a weekly basic.  God I wish I could help her see THE LIGHT! 

I'm a swinger and I'm not addicted... I wish that were the case, maybe I'd get sex more than a few times a month.... lol Sorry about your friend.

 
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January 31, 2008, 11:15 am PST

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Quote From: cfnamier

I always love it when swinging comes up as a topic.

 

My wife of 33 years and I have been together since 1968, we work together owning two small businesses, we do lots of volunteer work, and on Saturday nights we go out for our date night.

 

We go to our local swingers bar to dance with each other and other couples we know, we have sexy fun, we flirt, we laugh, we have a ball. About one time every two months we have such a great time with another couple we go to either our house or theirs and play sexy games, strip poker, naked twister or the like.

We have sex, it is just an extension of the fun we have.

 

Before i get blasted for being controlling in any way, I certainly do not force her to do anything. She likes to dress sexy and she loves to flirt, I don't have any problem with her doing so. She was beautiful and sexy when we started dating and she is beautiful and sexy today.

I'm really happy to see that the lifestyle has treated you and your spouse well! Good for you two!!!!

 

open minded 1965

 

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