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February 16, 2008, 8:13 am PST

A good man is hard to find but...

Not impossible.  What Karen needs is a husband who loves her no matter what.  I know Karen personally and I won't reveal too much, but she is a wonderful wife to this IDIOT!  She does not deserve his treatment.  She's putting up with it just for the kid's sake, which I feel to be for the wrong reason.  If they grow up to witness this treatment throughout their lives, they too will inherit the disease, which is not fair to them.

 

 If there are any single, decent, honest, not necessarilty good looking men out there who needs a nurturing wife, she is the one!  Her kids are so well mannered and adorable, it would be hard not to love them.  Even if not your own.  Believe me, there is some lonely man out there that would appreciate the kind of life that she can give.  She needs a rescue!

 
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February 16, 2008, 8:18 am PST

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Just from reading the preview..this woman needs to get a backbone and fast!!!!! Quite frankly, based on the descrition of what this guy has done and the put-down comments he makes, I'd have taken the kids and run for the hills a long time ago if I were Karen.  No one deserves to be called names for being overweight, and pointing to other women (attractive and skinny I'm sure!) and asking the kids if they want her for their new Mommy is unconscienable.   And whether he realizes it or not, he is not motivating his wife with his insults. He is making her miserable and she is probably turning to food to fill the huge void. And what message does this send to the kids?  Hope she has some extended family support she can count on, and that she gets herself and the kids out as soon as possible.
She has support, but she is in need of professional help to give her the courage to leave the jerk!  You can't just offer advice to leave, you have to want to do it!  She's in it for the kid's sake and that is sad...
 
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February 16, 2008, 9:06 am PST

Ending your marriage

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You don't mention if you two have ever been to therapy or not but if you haven't  I sugget that you go for a few reasons.  You both owe it to your kids to try everything and anything to fix this marriage.  I think it is important before you file for divorce that you and the kids know that at least you tried and you can tell them with a good conscience and no self doubt down the line that you left no stones unturned before making that final decision.  Another reason is because "you think" you want a divorce.  You need to be 100% certain that this is what you want.  And lastly you are still uncertain on whether or not he still loves you  which means that your communication lines are non existant and I'm wondering if you knew in your heart that he did love you, would you be willing to give this another chance after counseling. 

You're ridden with guilt and uncertainty and I think you need to work on these emotions before calling it quits for good.  It's important that you walk out that door with no anger, guilt, unanswered questions, confusion  so hat you do not second guess yourself years down the road.

 

You don't say what he wants in all of this?  Is he willing to work on this marriage? 

It may seem as though you are entirely miserable now.  After you leave however, it gets worse.  I divorced my husband of 15 years and have two great kids!  He cheated on me and I lived with it for 6 of those years.  He cheated again and that was it for me.  It never worked for us, but I know that after we seperated, the loneliness and thoughts of where do I go from here didn't subside, even now.  Once that security is broken, it seems to not come back, at least for me.  I am much happier in my life, but my kids have suffered tremendously as he is now remarried and I am also in another relationship.  The kids seem to do fine for periods and then rebel!    Another problem is that since you do have kids, you will never be free from him.  He'll be in your life weather you like it or not.

 

Perhaps it may be best to find some spark in your relationship.  Try surprising him with things you've never done before like kissing the mirror with lipstick to say I'm sorry or I love you.  Dress up together at Halloween and go to a party.  You need to rekindle it somehow.  You may feel that he no longer loves you, but I don't think that it is a reality really.  In fact I believe that you are still in love with him, you just can't see it.  You've just grown apart because you've been together so long.  Unless he is cheating on you or being abusive, I would suggest trying to fix it.  And yes, counseling or a support group at your local church is not a bad idea.  Good luck to you.  I hope you can save your marriage.

 
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February 17, 2008, 7:41 am PST

Change must be done

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To all the responders who haven't even seen the show yet, it doesn't get any better than the trailer. For I was there to experience the pain of karen (my wife). I had no idea I was that bad, for people don't video tape their lives, and go over them at night and see their mistakes and correct them the next day. I would like to apoligize to Karen and let you know that every action has a reaction, and no one knows what we are really going through in our lives, but that is no excuse for the way I have treated her or other people in my life. We are currently "BOTH" getting help, thanks to Dr. Phil and his wonderful staff. And as time goes on hopefully we can fix our marriage, but it will take some time, and alot of apologies from me. Please give us a chance to heal instead of throwing salt on the wounds. For now  " I " know how she feels after reading your comments.

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If all of this helps you to change, then I can forgive all of the times that we have suffered it.  You know, family can be a powerful tool.  The support , closeness and love that Karen has from her family is what you hate most about us.  We don't tell her what to do in her own life, but we are listening.  You have the most beautiful family and you have not been able to see it out of selfishness.  It's okay!  As long as you see it now, while the kids are small enough not to have it effect them.  Your kids are the most beautiful miracles in life that anyone could dream for.  Even myself.  Let's stop this madness and become a loving family like it should be, that way you can have the extra support that you need too.  As it stands now, you're not getting it!    You're family also needs to be supportive of Karen instead of ridiculing her the way you do.  They do not help matters because they are only supportive of you and what you are telling them.  Fix it!  You can do it, I know that you can.  Take the shame and throw it in the garbage for good!
 

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