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February 21, 2008, 10:48 am PST

Unbelievable

   I am in absolute shock over this this entire situation. As I am sure many of you will agree, I think it's pretty ridiculous that our legal system would even allow this back & forth with the court system. I believe that their has to be some truth to what the parents are saying, although divorced they still stand united. They both seem to be giving the same story & consistent. When is our legal system going to say enough is enough Kole is definitely old enough to choose what he would like.

   To me it seems that Rita is just doing this to be spiteful. Does this woman not have a job, hobbies,  a life. Watching the show, I got the impression that other than her son, she doesn't seem to have a good relationship with her children.  When is enough going to be enough....

 
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February 22, 2008, 1:36 pm PST

02/22 Hell Weddings

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Michael, got so drunk before the ceremony that he passed out cold after saying I do.

I do believe that in most states, you have to be sober, not have been forced or coerced,  in order to sign a marriage contract, otherwise the contract is invalid.  The way I see it, the contract is invalid and they are not legally married.

   I am glad that someone brought this up. I was also under the impression that if you are under the influence of anything, legally this marriage is not valid. I am also surprised that the grooms father even let his son walk into a church completely hammered. The priest also allowed for this man to disrespect the church and make a vow to this woman. How can he make a vow, he could barely stand still. Is there no common sense. Can the priest get into some type of trouble for performing this ceremony, obviously knowing that the groom was intoxicated?

   To be honest I don't think that a 2nd ceremony & reception is gonna to make this "brides" feelings go away. It's going to take much more than that. I hope that they seek some counceling. I also hope that when they have children he doesn't get so drunk that he misses the birth of their child.

 
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March 3, 2008, 9:14 am PST

Teens & Sex

   Lets be realistic!!! Teens have been having sex for as long as we can remember, religious groups are no exception. Taking a vow of selabacy for teenagers deeling with hormones, drugs, peer pressure, & so much sexuality is like an alcoholic taking a vow that they wont drink. They might mean it at the time but when faced with the temptation their is no telling what they might choose. 

   I am astonished that no one discussed in further detail what, giving out birth control in school means. It's not like you walk into math class and the teacher has bc pills, the nuva ring & condoms on her desk with a sign that reads "FREE"... In many states there are "school based heath centers", this means it's a clinic that treat our children for a number of things NOT JUST SEX...This is funded by our government. It's just lke a regular clinic, which fyi a teenager can still go to and receive the same treatment including confidentiality & birth control without parental consent. To obtain birth control pills you have to be of a certain age before you can receive them, under that age you need "PARENTAL CONSENT".  Where I live the age is 16...

   As far as the mother of the 14 yr old girl having sex, what do people really expect her to do? She didn't want her daugther to have sex but what else can you do when you know for a fact that they are going to do it no matter what. GO MOM for preventing another teen pregnancy. Am I saying that she should be having sex at 14? Absoltely not... But she did what she had to do for her family.

   At this day and age we should be educating our children with all the information. Teach them ALL the concequences that stem from having sex. Lets unite parents & experiened pofessionals to teach our children about life. I agree with the OB/GYN, parents need to start bringing their daughers into the doctor at an early age, educate them, show them you care. This is about  EDUCATION!!!!!!!!

 
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March 3, 2008, 5:30 pm PST

OMG I cant believe I just read this

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Dr. Phil, Bishop Jakes, and Ed, I believe you missed a huge point in your discussion about teens and sex. Have you ever wondered why girls don't protect their bodies? Have you considered the fact that many girls are molested at a young age. If teens are taught that it's okay to have sex by a molester they will have sex as a teenager when their hormones are raging.

 

Bishop Jakes, I realize that a conservative point of view denies providing birth control to teenagers without parental consent. I go back to my first point. If a child doesn't feel safe enough to talk to a parent because of molestation and unfortunately wants to have sex, the child will with or without birth control.

 

It's time look at the big picture. It's not about whether a girl has a good "reputation" or is a "slut". It comes down to how she's been raised, if there is a loving environment in which they feel safe. In a perfect world everyone would be great parents, creating safe and loving environments. That's not the world we live in. The divorce rate is 50%, meaning that 50% of our children are being raised by single parents. We've learned that it isn't strangers molesting our children, it's family members, friends, and even church members. How can you expect that telling a child raised in this environment that they should ignore their impulses and not have sex until marriage. Their parents didn't, they followed the impulse either to get married or divorced. Their molesters didn't.

 

Bishop Jakes I think you convey a wonderful message. I just wish this was the world many of us were raised it. As an adult I now understand your message and why it is so important. As the daughter of divorced parents and a victim of child molestation I didn't have a clue what to do as a teenager and I didn't have a safe loving environment in which I could get information.

   I can't believe that I just read your message above. One thing has nothing to do with another. I can almost guarantee you that a child being molested has very little to do with having sex. Most of the time children who are molested don't want to have sex. They don't want a reminder of what happened to them. I myself was molested by a family friend, and kept it a secret for many yrs. I didn't have anyone to talk to, but I didn't choose to screw everyone that crossed my path. I only told my husband 6 yrs after we where married. Further more I was a virgin till I was 18 yrs old. I wasn't waiting to have sex till marriage, I just didn't feel like just doing it with anyone, it was just a personal choice. My parents didnt talk about sex at all. In the 6th grade took a "health class" but that was about the changes in the body.  It want til I got to High School that I learned about STD's & pregnancy, condoms, etc.. It was a mandatory class half a school years worth.  Religion unfortunately isn't really fit to educate our children about sex. No one really wants to face things head on. Abstinence is great if you can actually live your life like that but how about the ones that cant? Just let them go into the world to spread diseases & procreate!!!!

   What exactly do you mean when you say that you wish this was the world you were raised in??? Do you mean the time where all teenage girls had sex, no protection, no education, got pregnant and where sent to an "unwed mothers camp" to have their children in secracy and placed up for adoption? Or when they were forced to get married because she was pregnant.  For as long as I can remember teenagers having sex has been a huge problem.

  My solution to this problem is to definitely involve the school, they can assist in educating our children in this matter. Our children spend most of their time there. I am sure that professionals woldn't mind volunteering their services in the name of education. Have professionals come in, hold a parent night,educate the parent & child at the same time. Lets face this problem head on. It's not going away. It's getting worse, lets face the facts and educate to prevent.

 

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