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September 12, 2008, 7:46 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: sothary

was africa the only country that went through slavery?

the answer is No!

 

comments?

You want comments?

This remark is tired...it's old. Shoot it already, put it out of it's misery.
 
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September 12, 2008, 7:48 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: sothary

responding to the last person....yes respect has to be earned ...

if someone spits in your face are you going to respect them? no

human race... things have changed and evolved use your common sense and use your knowledge.

respect is obviosly something that needs to be earned or else why do we have inmates in our prisons?

"if someone spits in your face are you going to respect them? no"

But you should have respect for them BEFORE they spit on you...why? Because they are human being.

She never said respect is something you can't LOSE...but everyone should start off as being respected until they prove themselves unworthy.


 
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September 12, 2008, 7:58 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: lakane

Like I said.. you didn't say it in the post I corrected. LOL This isn't rocket science. You were wrong. Accept it. People HAVE died over the word, which is in direct contrast to what you said.... which had NOTHING to do with any of the pretty words you used to try to clean it up.

Look at your post history, please.
No, if you click back you can see I CLEARLY said that it was JUST a word...

I am a person who easily admits when they are wrong...but I did type out, "It's just a word"...more than once! LOL

My VERY first post on this topic:

"No one ever DIED because of the use of a WORD.

People may take up arms because of ideas and ideals. And that is different. But take away this WORD and it fixes NOTHING. Acting like this word is a verbal bomb and it creates MORE problems."
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:33 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: lakane

"I am a person who easily admits when they are wrong..."

LOL Obviously not, but it's ok. You're cool anyhow, even though you're wrong as hell. LOLOLOL
I can only imagine that we are some how talking past each other...LOL

Because, I cannot imagine what you mean...either way...

We'll just have to agree to disagree....unless either one of us cares enough to try and sort it out and my friday-night-brain is not up for it!
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:40 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: lakane

First and foremost, let me say that I am downright disgusted by some of the things that have been said to you.

However, having said that, I think there's something wrong when we get into emotional pissing matches. You don't have to tell me what you've been through to tell me that words hurt. We were all children once, and were most likely called some mean and hurtful things that were painful to the core. It's not my job to quantify what you've been through just like it's not your job to quantify mine. Your experiences are just as important to you as mine are to me.. and just as I'm sure you feel a sense of solidarity amongst your LGBTQ peers in your experiences, I feel a sense of solidarity amongst Blacks who share mine. That's just the way people are.

After getting all that out the way... learning to be stronger by trying to get over it is good advice, but it's not enough, I hate to say. This kind of pain has historical context within this country that can't so easily be erased, ignored, and overlooked. Is it to be used as an excuse? Absolutely not. All I am saying is that it exists, and it gives a different connotation to some of the things people say and do. I mean, really. If I'm walking down the street and see a "whites only" sign hanging over a water fountain, yeah. They're just words and I could probably still drink there and just mace whomever tried to stop me. That doesn't change the meaning, and that's something that can't be gotten over. (and we come full circle to your original point. :) love how that works lol)
No, I certainly am not trying to get into a pissing match. I am trying to show all my cards, that is all. Pain is way too subjective to compare. It would never work. I do know what that pain is like though...to have hate aimed at you for something you not only don't have control over, but something you don't see as "bad" in yourself.

"After getting all that out the way... learning to be stronger by trying to get over it is good advice, but it's not enough"

I won't argue with that, I am certainly not trying to be some racial American Messiah! LOL But, as far as the topic of this show goes...that's what I have to offer as a girl who was raised in two of the whitest places in the US! LOLOLOLOLOL No, I am very sure it's NOT enough! LOL But it's what I can offer at this time. I am nothing if not open to learning.

See, I do think we are missing each other here...and again, I am so damn tired...but I know me. I'll mull it over and then I'll come back and make a post. I always do! I've been on these boards for over 2 and a half years! LOL

It's the ideas behind the words that hurt...but the words themselves are not harmful. Again, I am speaking about the topic of the show. The "n-word"...this word has become a monster and I think no one side is innocent in that.
 
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September 12, 2008, 8:53 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: lakane

"I am a person who easily admits when they are wrong..."

LOL Obviously not, but it's ok. You're cool anyhow, even though you're wrong as hell. LOLOLOL
Ok, Here is how I am seeing this: (Yes, I am anal retentive like this...LOL)

If your point was that it's just a few letters, then you should've just said that it's just a word.~ lakane
September 12, 2008, 6:29 pm PDT


It's a WORD. Racism will exist with or with out THIS STUPID WORD.
It's JUST A WORD!~Penny
September 12, 2008, 5:50 pm PDT


No one ever DIED because of the use of a WORD.~Penny
September 12, 2008, 3:27 pm PDT

Other than that, to me this is just another word.~Penny
September 12, 2008, 3:15 pm PDT

"Words are words. No word should be censored...ever."~Penny
September 6, 2008, 8:36 pm PDT

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You said I should have said it's just a word and I did say it's just a word, from my very first post on this board days ago, to my posts to you tonight.

Unless you meant something else...I cannot imagine how you think I'm "wrong" here....I clearly said "It's just a word"...And if you did mean something else then you can see how it's not my fault that I don't know what you are talking about. Correct?



 
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September 12, 2008, 9:34 pm PDT

Pornography

Quote From: redfeathers

Putting it simply so that you can understand. Porn is immoral, wrong in every sense of the word.  It is degrading to sex, both male and females.  Has done nothing positive for our society, not to mention the world we raise our children.  It's done more harm to little children growing up today than you will allow your mind to comprehend.

 

What about married couples who record themselves having sex for their own enjoyment? That's called home-made porn.

 

What about a woman who takes sexy nude pictures of herself for her husband or boyfriend and sends them to him because he is in the military and can't have her in person?

 

What about my boyfriend and I, who draw porn for eachother, of eachother?

 

What about when a consenting couple buys a porn DVD together with intent to watch it together for enjoyment together?

 

What about a wife/girlfriend who buys a magazine or dvd for her SO's birthday as a suprise?

 

All these things you aren't considering. At all. It's almost as if you deny they even happen. That there's no possible way that these things could even exist. Porn does less harm than you insist it does. It can be enjoyable by consenting adults, who are responsible and know how to excercise control and set limits and boundaries. Both men and women watch it, both men and women enjoy it, and not every single person who ever used porn exposes it to children. That's a humongous blanket statement, and an unrealistic generalization.

 

You really should try opening your mind just enough to consider that maybe porn isn't always bad, and ins't always going to mean the demoralization and destruction of someone's life. My boyfriend is a good person. He's one of the most caring, smart, and loving persons I've ever met. That's why I fell in love with him. He and I share porn. Does that make him an immoral and bad person? No. In fact, it's added some spark to our relationship, one which we have been in for almost 2 years and he and I were both virgins the first time we had sex. See? Porn has not made him an immoral person, nor has it destroyed our sex life. Also, I have a three-year-old niece that has never been exposed to porn. Never. She's doing just fine.

 

I think you are scared to admit that you might be wrong about some aspects of porn.

"What about my boyfriend and I, who draw porn for eachother, of eachother?"

That is really sweet! Aww!!

"I think you are scared to admit that you might be wrong about some aspects of porn."

When someone's been burned very badly they can get and irrational fear of fire...
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:52 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: jaleesha88

Hello Dr. Phil, My name is JaLeesha, I am 20 years old and I am a junior in college. Today by far was the day, I made sure I watched your show. This topic is such a controversy among blacks and whites. I will be candor, I use the word with my friends and when I am making a gesture towards a male who promiscuous and no good. I feel the word only has power if you give it power. My grandmother and I are at different stand points on this word, she feels the word should never be used and thats a pejorative word used towards blacks. For myself it a cultural norm, I hear the word in songs with rappers and in my environment in school. Reluctantly, I was not raised in a home where the word frequent my parents lips. I have become cultured over the years and have grown beyond what people seem to see the surface meaning. I feel as black people we have created negative to a positive. I think what some people fail to realize is that its all about the generation you come from. My grandmother came from an era in time where there was segregation, my mother came from a time where there was segregation to integration, and with me I have been able to experience the Idea of the melting pot. I am from the south, a small town of North Carolina now to hear that word used there I would honestly get offended. White people fail to realize its just something that is uncomfortable. We often can tell when people are trying to be funny and being racist. I will admit, I have had friends throughout middle school and high school who have used the N-word. Consequently they were white, my reaction wasn't so much as hate, but it just did not sound good coming from someone who not of my ethnicity. I agree with Sheryl Underwood completely, she is the perfect example, I feel she was a great representative for black people especially black women.  Paul Mooney and extraordinary actor, I have seen several of his acts and each time I walk away laughing. I feel with time as generations tend to go on the word will become less of an issue.

"I feel the word only has power if you give it power."

Couldn't agree more.
 
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September 12, 2008, 9:53 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: coyne25

 I am sorry. I think this is all so ridiculous! I have never been racist in my life but if I hear one more complaint from the blacks I think I will throw up! It seems as though this is all we hear about anymore. The big "N" word, That blacks can't get good jobs, how the police and every other race ( mexican, white, etc.) are prejudice against the blacks, how they were slaves, how there is more blacks in jail than whites. Give it up people! Blacks CAN get good jobs, you were not slaves your ancesters were, blacks commit more crime which is why there are more of them in jail. If I was ticked off my whole life about the color of my skin and what people were saying about me I would not have time to get a good job either! If I was in a gang a shooting people up...I would be in jail too. So stop using racism as an excuse, put your gun down, get off your couch, and get a job!!!! You want to talk racism? How about BET or the United Negro College Fund. I'll tell ya if there was a WET channel or a United Caucasion College Fund there would be lawsuits and picket lines! I am a woman so I think the next time I don't get the better job I will call racism, it seems to be working.
"I have never been racist in my life..."

I see you're trying something new here then...
 
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September 12, 2008, 10:17 pm PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

Quote From: alkeegan

I'm in Alberta, Canada......I'm sure the term is used here, but I hardly hear it!!!  I watched some of the show today (I tape it daily), & I think if people of the African-American culture want to refer to themselves in that way, then culturally it's there choice, wrong in my opinion, but again their choice.  I just really have a problem with a public figure like Rev. Jesse Jackson, a huge role model, using such a term!!!!  It's just wrong & I'm shocked, lost a lot of respect for him!!  I'm a white 37 year old women, who was taught by my parents respect for all, which means not to use such demeaning words against a race!!!  If the race themselves decides to use those terms, I feel they disrespect themselves!  To hear the women on the show that says "she has no problem using the 'N' word", shame on her!!!   I usually never write on these boards, but felt so complled after watching the show, I had to write!
My SIL is from Alberta...

Anyway....
 

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