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hopeful
May 20, 2008, 3:31 pm PDT

I thought you were someone I knew.

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  I am a mother of five children and have no controll over my home.  On todays show I seen part of myself and seen that there are other kids and parents who go through the same. The only thing I did not see or I miss is, no one there was at there breaking point with everthing and think of ending life would be easer. Am I the only one. Does anyone have so much guilt of not beeing able to raise there children that leaving would be the best thing. Have no way to get a job to care for them, no way to get them to school becuse you do not have gas and the bus dose not pick up becuse you were home less and had to move out of the bus route to that school. It was to late to enroll them in a new school with two months left. Most of all dose anyone care any more about anyone or are we all just worrie about ourself. We must becuse my sister bestfreind was found dead this morring. I guess there was one person who thought the same.

I had to check out your personal profile, because for a minute I thought you were one of my friends.  So, no I guess you're not alone, sorry to say.  I do hope that the Dr. Phil show staff read your statement, and can assist you in some way.  I do recommend Dr. Phil's books, Family First and Self Matters.  (No, I'm not staff.) Also, if you don't have insurance coverage for a family therapist, I suggest calling children services or your county welfare department.  Ask if there are any free or low-income services.  You wouldn't believe how much a good family therapist could help.  I would even check out various support groups for you and your children.  Get the smaller kids in Big Brothers, Big Sisters.  Trust me, they accept everyone in the program.  I always recommend Big Brothers, Big Sisters for single parents.  Of course, I don't know your situation, but I know if there is a will, there is a way.

 
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confused
May 20, 2008, 3:39 pm PDT

OW, PLEASE!

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Right on!   I couldn't agree more!   No one including Dr PhilI is listening to Noah.   How come his feelings don't matter and he was labeled a liar in the first minute of his say?  GRRRRRRRRR.  

Ow, PLEASE!  Noah was caught in a genuine lie people.  Listen to the show again, please.  Noah said a statement, Dr. Phil asked, "Are you sure about that?"  Dr. Phil gave Noah three times to correct himself before calling him a liar.  When Noah was caught, he admitted that he lied.   He was lieing about his Mom hitting him, so that he could justify hitting her.  Which there is no justification for.  I can't believe this 10 year old is manipulating you like he has been manipulated his own mother for years.  I know you all think he's smart, but come on, is he really smarter than you. 

 
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May 20, 2008, 3:42 pm PDT

YEP, I do

Quote From: tadunkadunk

Just emotional abuse well that's ok...I could tell she abused him because he did it back. You think he just did that on his own?  You don't think emotional abuse is just as bad?  The proof is right there!   How do you know it didn't happen?  You are just as bad as Wendy.

Yep, i do believe he just did THAT on his own. 

 
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frustrated
May 20, 2008, 3:55 pm PDT

Whatever!

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Thanks to the bad parenting!

Whatever!  My Mom was the worst of the worst, and I would have never spoke down to her or slapped her.  I learned to use appropriate means of dialogue and behavior.  Justifying Noah's behavior is simply selling him short.  Dr. Phil was raised by an abusive father with an addiction, do you think he ever acted like that toward his parents.  I doubt it!  There is NO EXCUSE for that behavior.  Stop crucifying that mother, and realize that parents are not perfect.  All of us make mistakes, and none of us expect our child to talk down to us, disrespect us and abuse us.  Noah is abusing his mother.  He knows exactly what he is doing, and he knows it is wrong.  That child is far from stupid. 

 
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naughty
May 20, 2008, 4:06 pm PDT

It is an act

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I'm not through watching the show yet, but I'm blown away at Dr Phil's insensitivity to Noah's plight.  "Was it a nudge or a hit?  You said it was a hit, so which is it?  Don't lie to me".  This poor kid can't get a break.  He obviously considers all of her physical rebuttals a hit, because she always goes overboard with it.  He's 10 yrs old Dr Phil, surely you can disipher what he really means, without badgering him.  Gimme a break. His mother came from an abusive background.  She has taught him all of his improper behaviors.  No child can respect an adult who does not respect them.  They'll either cower and secretly hate their offender or fight back and hate openly.  He is a highly and unusually intelligent child for 10 and he mirrors her entirely.  She has filled him with rage, the SAME rage she herself was raised with and now spews on her own baby boy.  The hate in her eyes for her only remaining child  was palpable.  I could feel it through the television.  She would be wise to recognize that he feels the same towards her and take great care to tread lightly from here on out, for the sake of their future together.  If there is to be one at all.  Be very careful my dear.  If you continue to tormant and push your son,  because you're such a miserably depressed and angry women, one day he may make you pay with your life.  This is your wakeup call.  STOP lying and take responsibility for your repugnant behavior. Your son is STILL desparate for your love (don't know why).  I don't approve of him slapping you or telling you to shut up, but he clearly was doing what you taught him.  The fact that he'd asked you, "How does it feel?  It doesn't feel good does it?  I"M NOT A DOG", says volumes.  I saw the lightbulb go off in your head, you got it right then and there did'nt you?  You can't lie and have adults buy your bullsh*t  lady.  Even your son who's 10 has got you all figured out and that seriously chaps your *ss.  Fills you with MORE rage doesn't it?  You'e not just emotionally stunted and immature, you're transparent as well.  Remember serial killers aren't born evil, they're created by childhood experiences.  Their nastiness has to be nurtured and cultivated over time.  Up to this point  I'd say you're doing a darn skippy job of creating one.  What a good mommy.

 

In the end when he' old enough and moves out and permanantly away from you (and he will, don't kid yourself sister) hopefully his hate will only be for you and not ALL women. 

It was rehearsed people!  Noah's rehearsed this in his head for weeks. That's what manipulation is.  The Dr. Phil show is his debut to the world.  He is a magnificant actor. 
 
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naughty
May 20, 2008, 4:12 pm PDT

LOL

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  HOW CAN YOU ALL SIT HERE AND SAY IT IS POOR CHILD?

DID WE ALL SEE THE SAME SHOW?? THAT KIDS NEEDS HELP BAD.

NOT THE MOTHER BUT HER SON.

I'm being naughty.  I was making a joke.  I completely agree with you.
 
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surprised
May 20, 2008, 4:19 pm PDT

Mainstream Culture?

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Oh ya like all 10 yr old kids are as manipulative as adults...please you should listen to the kids instead of listening to Dr. Phil.  Dr. Phil is not even listening carefully himself and asking three times that confirmed Noah was not lying. He was speaking the truth, maybe the wrong word but his mom did hit him or whatever you call it. The mom did the same thing as Noah she doesnt want to listen when he said it was annoying him when the music was so loud. No justification on hitting mom yes true but look for the real source here. Where did he learn it from?

Mom "checked out" years ago, right.  Did you ever think he learned it from mainstream culture.  It doesn't look like the boys exercising, maybe t.v. is the culprit, or video games, or friends, or pretty much anything else.  We don't live in a tunnel do we?

 
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May 20, 2008, 4:32 pm PDT

Yep, he's 10, so?

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I think some of  you are losing sight of the fact that he is only 10.

No, I think his actions and words speak loud and clear.  He certainly isn't acting like a 10 year-old; therefore, he doesn't need to be delt with like a 10 year-old. 

 

My child is considered very intelligent.  She is exremely strong willed and highly manipulative.  She's 4 1/2 years-old.  I actually adore these qualities in her, because she shows them in a way that is positive.  Of couse, comparing Noah to my daughter is like comparing apples and oranges. 

 

Noah is acting really big for his britches, and he needs to be delt with on a higher level than a normal 10 year-old. 

 
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May 20, 2008, 4:55 pm PDT

LOL

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Come on People!!! This child will be grown in 8 years. But he's just 10, He has more years toward being an adult. Ex: If he was 7 , then yea hes closer to being a baby, BUT HE IS 10!!!!! He will be GROWN in 8 years, I wouldn't allow my 10 year old boy to slap me, Then by not doing anything about it, you are teaching it's okay TO HIT WOMEN, AND SECOND, Your showing him he has the upper hand, and your afraid of him, I would have slapped him right back!! And furthermore, children who say" I'm going to call the CPS if you hit me" I got news for you people, I would pack their bags for them and call myself. If I can't discipline my children then they can just go live with the CPS!!!!!!!!
AMEN! Actually, I don't believe in corporal punishment, but I do believe in parental rights.  Parents have the right to discipline. 
 
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May 20, 2008, 4:59 pm PDT

Show of bullies

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I agree that Noah is a magnificant actor. Like some others said, I'm sure he's learned this behavior from Mom. But he's so out of control he needs to be taken to task for his behavior & it doesn't much matter anymore how he got there. This kid is a master manipulator. What's shocking is how good he is at it at such a young age. Noah likely has been abused. Most bullies are. He's well on his way to becoming an abuser himself unless somebody pulls him up short.
I recall a show Dr. Phil did on bullies.  The experts said that it was a false belief that bullies were comprised of children with low self esteems.  In fact, the kids on the panel agreed that they had high self esteems.  They bullied because they felt entitled to...they could get away with it.  I was really shocked to learn this perspective on bullying.
 

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