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April 2, 2008, 12:37 am PDT

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I cannot begin to tell you the number of physicians and residents who have entered isolation rooms where MRSA patients are under droplet isolation or contact isolation,,work on the patient, then come out and say, "what kind of isolation is he under?".  It is clearly posted on the patient's door!

 

Dietary workers tend to do the same, as well as CNAs.  Imagine this scenario; dietary takes a tray of food into the patient, without properly gowning, masking, gloving and handwashing, then proceeds to touch every other patient's trays/dishes, eating utensils, etc. 

Worse yet, those same infected trays go back to the cafeteria and into the hands of workers or patients.

 

And, now there is a MRSA necrotizing pneumonia that eats the lung tissue of its victims, and is truly anti-biotic resistant.  You die from it within 36-72 hrs.  You all know how long it takes healthcare to diagnose such a disease,,,too long.

Given those facts, imagine how quickly it could wipe out a hospital full of already immunosuppressed patients were workers do not properly observe sanitary precautions to break the chain of infection.

The problem with this subject is that every one is loving the drama of the moment.  As the Dr said this "super bug" has been around for over 40 years.  Yes it is a serious infection, however it is not as contagious as it is being made out to be.  If you wash your hands regularly and don't go around touching other peoples open wounds the chances of you getting it are low.  As for dietary, they don't touch the pt for the most part they walk in to a room place the tray on the bed side table and leave never touching the patient or any of the area that may be contaminated.  Hopefully they wash their hands or use hand cleaner before and after they leave the room.  This should be a standard for any pt not just those with infections.  Also unless the MRSA or other infection is in the mouth, nose, or other part of the respiratory system it is not in the air and you don't need a mask.  As for the "Long" time for of diagnosis did you know that it takes 24-48 hours to get a culture result back, which is what is needed to diagnose and treat any bacterial infection properly, and longer to find out if it is the MRSA form.  I work in a hospital and have done so for several years and so far have never seen an out break that threatened, or even in any way hinted, that it could wipe out the hospital or even a single unit. 

            Sorry to burst your drama bubble, but most people who die with MRSA usually have a nother issue along with it, and that either allows it to grow easier or kills them first.

 

 
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April 2, 2008, 1:06 am PDT

sorry for the loss

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Our sixteen year old daughter died last year after getting the flu and then a staph to her lungs.  It took less than twenty four hours from the time she saw a pediatrician to the the time sepsis and sectic shock set in.  Our lives have been completely devastated.  Our story is too long and too painful to tell right now, but thank you for taking the time to get all this information out.

The proplem with any medication is that it has side effects that are not always good.  How ever before you go throwing drugs in to the picture you should probably think, how common IS this bleeding problem really.  According to the information I found only 3.5% of the people had the bleeding problems and nearly the same with those with out it.  I think the Dr was justified in choosing it.

Was the sepsis caused by MRSA?  If so was there a problem that came before that he did not get checked out before the dehydration.  People don't get dehydrated and die of sepsis.  There is also and infection that came first.  The moral of this story, don't wait till your dead to get your self checked out.  Hundreds of people come through the ER daily, and many have dehydration.  The treatment is to rehydrait and send home with the encouragement to get lots of rest and fluids.  Infection can also cause dehydration.  If he was out exherting him self it is hard to say this is due to and infection or lack of water.  Take it easy I know it is hard to lose a loved one, but it is even harder to carry around the anger that you have.  It is also not good to place blame on some one who was doing the best job they could.

 
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April 2, 2008, 1:31 am PDT

you sound angry

Quote From: ladiehawke

You can bet that hospitals don't want it to get out if they are having a problem with MRSA within their walls. It could mean financial ruin to them. People, you have to demand the doctors to keep you informed as to what tests they are doing on you and what the results of those tests are. In case you don't know it, you have the right to have copies of all tests results. If you go in for outpatient tests, ask to sign paperwork to have copies of the test results sent directly to you. They may give you a hard time about it, if they do tell them you know your patient rights and if they won't provide the paperwork, then to tell you where to go to sign papers to have the results sent to you.

By the way, you all might want to pick up a book by physcian author Robin Cook called Critical. It deals with the MRSA bacteria. While it is a fictional story, Cook is known for his very careful research of all things medical in his stories. It will have you thinking more about MRSA, how it can be caught, and how far hospitals will go to protect their bottom line.

Oh, and for the nurse who objected to the idea of swabbing and testing evey patient, doctor and emplyee in a hospital, as a care giver, your first concern really should be the health and care of patients, not the hospital's bottom line. If that means swabbing every Tom, Dick and Harry to stop the spread of a lethal disease, I say, hell yes! Do, it...

One other things, hospitals are saying that these infections are not acquired within their walls because there is now a law that says if a patient gets sick from a bug indemic to their hospital, then the hospital has to foot the bill for nursing you back to health. The hospital can no longer pass the treatment cost on to your insurer.

First off, are you planning on never going to the hospital ever again?  If this is the case then by all means continue complaining.  I would also encourage patients to inquire of their health care provider about any thing going on with their bodies.  It is the Dr.'s responsibility to do what they can to get you well, but it is yours to find out what is going on.

As for the idea of swabbing every employee, what would be your next idea?  Should they stamp me in big red letters saying "I HAVE MRSA"?  Or do you think that removing these people from the hospital would be a more acceptable idea.  Yes, overhead is a big deal to the hospital, but if they did not think about it you would be paying more than you already are for you precious health coverage.  Part of the reason most hospitals don't do the swabbing is that there really is nothing to do next.  If they fire all those with the infection then there will be an even bigger problem with the nursing shortage and you will probably die before you are ever seen in the hospital if you are really sick.

YES, MRAS is in the community.  I have taken care of a number of people who have never been to the hospital and yet some how have accuired this bacterial infection.  Thanks for your comments now stop over reacting.   Just think it will cost the hospital more if they cause a problem, don't you think they are going to go to every measure possible to prevent it reather than allowing people to get it from them?

 
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April 2, 2008, 2:05 am PDT

thanks for your in put

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I am absolutely outraged at the information presented in today's show by the medical establishment which has caused this problem to become more and more serious because of their continued overuse of antibiotics and their developement of even stronger ones, which in just a short time create more antibiotic resistant strains.  This has got to stop!! If you really want to protect yourself or cure yourself of this horrible disease, stay out of hospitals and away from the medical establishment.  Visit your local health-food store or contact an alternative-medicine practioner or one practicing homeopathy.  Alternative treatments are the only means to cure this.  A natural anitbiotic called Oil of Oregano (Oregamax) brand is the best I have found will get rid of this very quickly.  The oil is the most effective and the strongest, but the capsules work well also.    I am disgusted and outraged that our Congress is trying to regulate safe supplements such as vitamins and herbs with no proven deaths attributed to them, while they allow the medical establishment to kill over 100,000 people a year through diseases like this and other medical mistakes.

Outrageous!!!

I am so glad to hear that I will never have to worry about taking care of you in the hospital.  Good luck with the herbal thing though.  Just remember these words if you ever do get sick, or injured or in any way in need of the assistance of those people with the knowledge that could some day save your life.
 

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