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February 27, 2006, 12:40 pm PST

02/27 Twisted Love: The Aftermath

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Its the sex stuff.  Whenever there is a discussion about sex the boards go buggery with the God speak.  I dont understand why people cant have convos about sex without bringing God/religion into it but apparently... they just cant!  lol 

  

You spoke about the government legislating morality.  While I do agree with you on this to a certain point, my question has always been where does one draw the line?  Seems government does need to legislate some sort of morality or else we wouldnt be prosecuting murderers, child abusers etc etc etc. 

Man, I thought I was the only one on here who thought that.  Ha ha! 

  

Personally, I draw the line at "consenting adults".  I don't think the government should tell you what you can do with whom as long as everyone involved agrees of his/her own free will, everyone is old enough/mentally capable of making his/her own decisions, and possibly in the cases of people with HIV or other serious diseases who deceive others and knowingly have unprotected sex with them (not that the partner shouldn't be insisting on protection, but that will start another debate).  There is a lot of stuff that disgusts me and in which I would never, ever participate, but, hey, your life is your own.  I don't think I should insist that everyone else live by my standards so I hope they respect mine, as well. 

  

That said, spouses of cheaters are not "consenting".  Hygienically, you pretty much do sleep with everyone your partner sleeps with, which is a pretty revolting thought.   

 
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March 6, 2006, 6:19 am PST

03/06 Love, Lies and the Law

Quote From: kyrosemom

I would not be surprised if this cop is indeed abusing his power.

I am not saying the wife is totally innocent, but since he has still got his job after all of the reports, etc, then that says something about the "boys club" a lot of police depts can be. Yes, there are decent cops and I am not slamming them all, but they tend to protect their own, even if one is abusing his power and his wife. The whole thing about taking the kids and even spitting on the wife. That is just horrible and disgusting.

No she should not spank her child with a belt and leave welts, but spanking is not illegal in most places and the cop should not use his power to alienate his kids from their mom.
They sound like they're BOTH spinning it.  He sounds like he's got a Macho Man complex and she sounds like she's got a Victim complex.  I mean, I know that reality is perceived, but it never fails to amaze me how badly some people can fly off the handle when they don't get their way.  They need to get far, far, away from one another.
 
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March 6, 2006, 10:10 am PST

03/06 Love, Lies and the Law

Quote From: joenjade

This is my first time replying to a talk show.  As a Police Officer, I would like to give my views on the "Good Old Boys".  As with any job, where you work together, you protect your own.  But I was the victim of a similar problem.  One difference, the woman I was living with & loved totally.  She decided to use a crooked District Magistrate ( by having an affair with him) & have him force me to leave our house, threaten me with the police dept. from our area, & eventually he had them file very serious charges against me.  These charges were later found by the county court to be wrong, and the magistrate was later removed from office. 

  

The result was I lost $10,000 I took from my retirement account to help her get a car, all the things I bought for the house, and because one of the officers in my department was involved in a domestic situation with his wife and owed the magistrate a favor for getting him out of it, my job with the 2 Police Departments I was working for.   

  

After the situation was over, I went back to work for another department which I later quit.   

  

In this situation, I fell strongly that Jim is hiding what he is doing to Sinden.  I watched his mannerisms & the way he answered questions, & he is not telling all.  Sinden is probably telling the truth & may be in the wrong for the way she corporally punishes the kids.  She has every right to be in fear.  Jim is exhibiting the signs of taking the "job" home, and from what I have seen in the past--will eventually hurt her physically. 

  

They both are wrong for involving the kids.  They should be adults are break it off without all the drama & split up.  If Jim was the caliber of a police officer that he should be, he would do this with out the problems he is causing.  Jim should have been grateful to have a wife like her to put up with a "cop's life".  She is beautiful & takes pride in her house.  The job of a Police Officer is difficult, but like I always told rookies I would train, leave the job at the office & leave home problems at the home.   

  

Dr. Phil, if you want more professional testimony or if there is some way I can help her get though this difficult time; I would love to help.   Also, let her & the rest of the world know, we only hear about the "bad apples" in police officers & never the good ones.  I worked for three departments for 13 yrs. & never had to forcible fight one person.  I also work the county drug task force and was on the Entry Team as the lead entry person.  I have always been able to calm a situation before it got to a bigger one. 

Thank you.  Those are good points. 

  

I do think he's a creep, but that's separate from him being a police officer (although if he's a controlling person by nature I could imagine he might have picked that job because it makes him feel powerful or something).  Likewise, she definitely needs to decide what the boundaries are.  They both need to stop jerking the kids around.   

 
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March 14, 2006, 6:02 am PST

Body Image & Sex Appeal

Quote From: roninfm3

 Well, I probably have low sex appeal since I have a rather negative  feeling about my body. Intellectually I have a strong self image but at 44 years old I am a virgin. Never had a girlfriend; I'm told that I'm too thin and women just aren't attracted to this. Maybe it's true. At any rate,  it's a bit difficult to have a great image of my self physically when  no women are interested in me at all. I must be lacking something.

This made me a laugh (not at him, just in a general sort of way). 

  

I'm 28 and, my God, I don't think I could get a date if my life depended on it.  I admit it's my own fault--I got teased a lot as an adolescent and have zero self-confidence with men, so I tend to go right into platonic "buddies" mode before they have a chance to get any vaguely romantic ideas.  I have guy friends who are great people and who think I'm great, but that's it. 

  

I was talking to a friend on the phone a few weeks ago and we realized we'd both finally gotten over the body-image thing (at least for now).  Neither of us is pretty but we're not monsters, and she is tall, athletic, and has a million-dollar personality--any man that doesn't think she's awesome clearly has no taste.  Who wants a guy with no taste?   

  

We're just mad that the fashion industry doesn't think we're as perfect as we think we are.  I have a 27-inch waist, 41-inch hips, and big thighs, so there are virtually no pants in the world that fit me.  No flattering pants, at least.  I make myself skirts--I have the cutest skirts and the fashion Nazis don't get  my money.  I do need to be in better shape but it's simply because I need to take better care of myself, not because I'm overweight or want to be rail-thin (I am not overweight, and besides, I could starve myself to death and I would still be pear-shaped.  It's just my body type). 

  

  

So, in a nutshell--dude, it's probably something else.  I know it's my demeanor.  I expect men to pass me over because I learned when I was 12 that it hurts a lot less to be ignored than it does to be tormented, and if they do pay me positive attention, I shut them out.  My own fault.  It doesn't make me happy but it has nothing to do with my body.  I'm not stunning but I'm not really any worse off than any other girl, and I've seen plenty of other people who are "less attractive" (by conventional standards) than I am who are very happily un-single. 

 
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March 16, 2006, 1:16 pm PST

03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

I don't think any of it's that clear, but I can see how she could have hit him accidentally. 

  

A 16-year-old boy in my area was recently hit by a truck while riding his skateboard at night.  His friend told him to get out of the way but he assumed the truck would stop.  People--kids, often--assume that because they can see the headlights that the vehicle can see them clearly, but headlights are meant to light up the road in front of the car and don't light up very far ahead, nor do they light up the area to the sides of the car.  If he came out of the dark from the side of the street, she very well may not have been able to see him until it was too late, especially if she was already upset and distracted. 

  

I agree that she killed him but I don't believe that she intended to and I don't think she should be in for twelve years.  There are different degrees of "didn't mean to kill him".  People shake babies to shut them up but "don't mean to kill them", but that's an act intended to punish.  It's malicious.  If she couldn't see him in the darkness on the side of the road, it was simply a very bad accident.  As for trying to disguise it--for God's sake, is there anyone on here who wouldn't panic if they were seventeen and wrecked the car, then realized they might have hit someone??  It's easy to say you'd stick around and own up to it but realistically, if it were you, it would be extremely hard.  I'm sorry for his family but vengeance won't bring him back, either.   

  

 
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March 16, 2006, 1:22 pm PST

03/16 Cheerleader Scandal

Quote From: michcin66

I agree that it seems odd that Brandy's parents act like SHE died, she will get out.  I would have been much prouder of Brandy if she'd said "LET IT GO" and just served out her time.  But I don't think Brandy was making 'acusations' about the abuse.  Now, I am not saying that I believe her, I don't know her and didn't know Daniel, but Domestic violence is very hard to "prove" but a very real thing.  Women go to prision for domestic abuse because the first time they fight back, they get caught.  There is domestic violence across all of America in every financial and social 'class'.   

I'd like to know how she got to 60mph in such a short span of space?  Have the police measured to see if that is even possible?  I doubt it. 

You don't think she'll have to live with this for the rest of her life?  Not just knowing what happened but having a prison sentence on her record?  Do you ever wonder why so many ex-convicts go back to crime?  Among other things, because they're essentially not allowed to lead respectable lives.  This girl had a good start--it's not like she's illiterate and addicted to something. 

  

Personally, I'd like to see the police stuff reexamined along with her trial things.  I'm not sure I believe he flew that far and/or she was going that fast.  Most residential areas have curving streets that are lined with parked cars and you can't possibly go that fast and stay on the road. 

 
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March 21, 2006, 6:32 am PST

03/20 "I'm a Slave to My Spouse"

Quote From: mneue58

Are these husbands men or mouses? Doesn't God clearly state that the man is the head of the household? These women don't need husbands or children what they need is a good shrink and it's a good thing Dr. Phil offered them one.

No, the Bible says that, and it's the "word of God" as interpreted by . . . men.  Not that I want to start a theological argument, but God did not write the Bible (that's why there are different Gospels).  Besides, last time I checked, America is a land of religious freedom and the Bible isn't everyone's Word. 

  

Aside from that . . . what a bunch of immature people, husbands and wives alike.  I appreciate that moms need some time to be themselves but, my goodness, what kind of True Self is that?  Drinking until 6:00 in the morning and snorting cocaine?  Sounds to me like she has no idea who she is or she would find something constructive to do with her time.  I will never understand why people think they have to be drunk to have a good time.  (Yes, I do go to bars occasionally if there's a band I want to see, but I'm not drinking or using drugs or grifting drinks of guys, and it's not my only hobby.  I do it very, very, rarely, and I don't have a husband or kids waiting for me, or I'd do it even less.) 

  

And the second couple--okay, they both work outside the home, they can both do housework.  "Doesn't occur to her", my foot--she knows he'll do it if she just leaves it long enough.  (Dr. Phil has offered breast reductions before, so maybe this woman should be the next candidate, then she'll have no reason to complain.)  Her husband needs to stop complaining and cussing her out, but she needs to get up and do her part.  She needs to go to a doctor and get help with her arthritis, too, if it's that big a problem (I imagine that if she's in that much pain it must be affecting her job performance, too). 

 
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March 21, 2006, 6:45 am PST

03/20 "I'm a Slave to My Spouse"

Quote From: dadathome

Most men are terrific dads. I am a stay at home dad and do dishes, toilets, laundry, diapers, yard work, etc. I do everything a stay at home mom does. My wife works and does just the shopping. It's called marriage and this is what many immature men and women fail to understand.

I'm a girl but I get tired of people generalizing all this bad stuff about men.  My dad (who works full-time) and my brother (who is a full-time grad student, works, and is married to another grad student who is even busier than he is) both do most of the housework in their own homes.  My mother has multiple health problems that prevent her from doing most physical things, and sensitivities that mean she can't be in close contact with a lot of dust or cleansers.  She runs a lot of other things around the house but Dad and I do the cleaning.  Dad has always done a lot of cleaning (cooking, laundry, diapers, yard work, fixes the cars, etc. etc.) and never has to be asked. 

  

I'm not saying all men are perfect.  All women aren't perfect, either.  I know most people post based on their personal experience, but I wish they'd remember for a second that personal experience is just that, and not make it a blanket indictment. 

 
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March 21, 2006, 2:35 pm PST

03/21 More Annoying People

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I’ve lived in this lake side community for 6 years. The first three years were great. The neighbors (mostly summer people) and I got along great. Then the people across the street moved in. They act as if this is their private community and free run for their dogs. They would get back from their winter where ever and let the dogs run. I went over and asked them nicely to keep their dogs in their own yard. She gave me the deer in the head lights look as if I was speaking a foreign language or something. I tried to explain my son was terrified of big dog and that for the dog’s sake because a car could hit them they should be keep in their own yard.  

  

 

That worked for about two weeks and she would get lazy and just open the door and let the dogs out again instead of going out with them and keeping them in the yard.  I kept trying to get my boyfriend to go over and tell them to keep the dogs on their own property. He would not do it he just wanted to shoot the dogs. I went over again and asked them to keep the dogs on their own property or I will call the cops.  

  

 

Well they called my bluff and I did, 4 times…they have been cited and still will not keep the dogs on their property. Up until this year, they would go south or something during the winter but this year they have been here all year. I have almost hit the dogs twice with my car when they ran out chasing it. It was frustrating but at least I only had to deal with it 6 months of the year then they would leave and all would be well again. Until this year, they did not leave. All year I have had to fight with them about the dogs. 

  

 

My house is on the market now and moving out of the community. I told my real-estate agent I do not care who you sell the house to the worse the better as long as they have the money to pay for the house. I am so hoping she finds a stereotypical redneck family with 7 kids, grandma and grandpa and six pigs to move in the place. Paybacks are hell. 

  

Next time, take them to animal control, or someplace where they have to pay each time to get them out of hock. 

  

Sorry, I love dogs but it's not safe for ANYONE to have loose dogs running around--it's obviously not safe for the dogs and it's not safe for kids.  It's gross when somebody else's dog poops in your yard, and I would be totally traumatized if I accidentally hit a dog with my car, even if it wasn't my fault. 

 
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April 11, 2006, 6:02 am PDT

04/10 Settle This

Quote From: apathetic1

I hear ya Sister!!!  When I was 24 I was starting to feel like I was the only one my age who hadn't had a baby & then I got to thinking "What if I'm not able to have one?" My boyfriend thought he wasn't even remotely close to ready (at the age of 30 mind you!) to have a baby which frustrated me to no end.  Well, I took matters into my own hands.  I kept a close eye on the calendar every month & never hesitated to get a bit frisky on those days I thought I was ovulating.  After all I did keep reminding him I wasn't on the pill so that he should be very careful if he doesn't want to have a baby!!!  Well I'm here to tell ya girl...  He didn't seem to care too much because after a few months of being on the sly, I found out I was pregnant & ya know what???  He was THRILLED!!!   

 

Steve is smart to be concerned but perhaps he (like my man) is just afraid of losing that little bit of freedom he has left.  The thing is though...  He'll be excited when he finds out he's gonna be a dad.  Funny how men have a weakness for little ones once they get a good look at that bulging belly & realize it's a part of them. 

 

I know it seems evil girl but you've gotta do what you think is right for you.  It may not be fair to him but sometimes men need to be dragged out of the cement they got their feet stuck in to move on with life. 

 

Best of luck to you. 

 

Beth-Ann 

You're lucky he was thrilled.  Ii'm a girl, but if I were a guy who said he didn't want kids and my girlfriend did this to me, I'd be really mad.  Didn't Phil do a show on Conception Deception a few months ago?  Personally, I think this was a selfish, immature, and dishonest thing to do on your part.  I'm glad that it turned out OK but it wasn't fair to him. 

  

My parents were 29 and 31 when I and my brother were born.  My brother is 26 and married but they are both in graduate school and will be flat broke for the next six years, and then have mounds of student loans--at this point, they say they don't think they want kids at all even if they could afford them any time soon.  I do want kids but I'm 28 and have been hopelessly single since college so I'm not holding my breath.   

  

For everybody out there who thinks that they want to have kids young so they aren't "too old" to do the fun stuff once their kids are out of the house--don't worry.  My dad will be 60 in a few weeks and hasn't slowed down a bit--he recently bought himself a small truck so he can take his canoe with him more easily when he goes camping.  My mother is 58, an organ-transplant patient, and has more energy than she has had since I was in high school.  It's more important to stay active and take care of yourselves if you want to be younger longer. 

 

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