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October 21, 2008, 10:57 am PDT

My Full Story

Hi, for those who have just arrived at this amazingly busy forum, my name is Brad. I was a guest on this episode. If you have a moment, I'd like to invite you to read my full story of addiction on my blog:

 

http://exgamer.net/blog/?p=106

 

I also have a new podcast at the following RSS feed location:

 

http://exgamer.net/blog/?feed=podcast

 

Rather than duplicating everything from my blog, which is now three months old, I thought I'd just give you the links and suggest you visit.

 

Most of the comments on the show have been intelligent and helpful. Mainly I'd like to say that those of us who have struggled with this issue are sincere in our desire to see people game in a balanced way, if that is possible. I have no particular axe to grind against the gaming industry, but I am concerned that people develop good communication within their key relationships about the risks of excessive game play. I think this is going to grow into a serious public health issue if not properly addressed by parents, spouses and family members of compulsive gamers, and of course by the players themselves.

 

Finally, I think it is high time the medical profession at large begin to take this issue seriously. We're well into the 21st century, and the Internet has captured more and more of our leisure time to the point that we should be concerned about the potential for serious addiction issues such as we have discussed in this forum.

 

Thanks everyone, for your support and interest in this issue.

 

Brad

 

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October 21, 2008, 4:43 pm PDT

Medical Response

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I'm sorry, but that sounded really dumb to me.  How is the medical profession going to take care of something like this?  Deciding to play a game for unhealthy hours on end is a choice and not the games fault that the person is getting addicted.  And even if it was a physcological problem, how could you teach a person to find that balance and keep up with it?  What, they're going to start an addicted gamer rehab?  I'm sure the people in the medical field agree with me: that's just a stupid idea.
There's already a gaming addiction recovery program at a clinic in the Netherlands. We know of several comparable programs in the U.S. It's time for the AMA to enter the same century as the rest of us and recognize this addiction so people get help more easily.

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October 21, 2008, 4:48 pm PDT

A Devastating Loss

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I was married for almost 4 years to my husband, then a friend introduced him to an online game.  At first he played for a little while maybe twice a week and still spent time with my son and I.  But then he went to playing it for about an hour everyday, stopped playing with my son.  Then it was up to 8 hours a day.  He did work, but when he got up in the morning he got on the game till it was time to go, then as soon as he got home he was on the game again til at least 4 in the morning.  I asked him to cut down on the game and he did for a few days but it was like he was mad at me whenever i tried to talk to him when he was not playing it.  If my son tried to play with him he would push him away and ignore him after that.  I started to play the game just to see what it was all about and it was fun, but not fun enough to make me forget about what was most important in my life.  I started feeling  like my husband and i were just roommates.  I would cook for him and he would never eat until 3-4 hours later.  I finally got tired of feeling like i was alone and told him that i couldn't do it anymore.  By this time i had asked him to stop playing numerous times(never stopped)  once i told him that i wanted a divorce he tried for a litttle while and we tried to work it out but by then my heart was not in our marriage anymore.  I moved out of state to get a better job and reciently found out that he is still playing the same game.  Addiction to these games is not normal and should not be taken lightly, no game is worth losing your family or your own life over. IT IS ALL JUST MAKE BELIEVE.
Hi,

As I said on the show yesterday, giving up your marriage to a real, beautiful, loving wife for a game is just plain stupid. The problem is, the gamer is making a decision based on clouded judgment. The game is "everything." I said to Fred on the show that after 8 or 9 months that what seems so important to him will reveal itself as utterly meaningless.

I'll bet your ex-husband will eventually wake up alone and kicking himself for letting you go. If what I said on the show helps one man wake up and game less or quit an excessive gaming habit like mine, then my job is done.

God bless!

-Brad

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October 21, 2008, 6:12 pm PDT

Recovery Ideas

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We all know that this is a problem, but no one is really offering up a viable solution.

 

So... How do we help those who are addicted and their friends and families?

 

I've checked out the gamer's online site, but I think being on the computer isn't really a good idea for those who are addicted.  Having a support system is amazing, but that should come from your family.  If not, then that website is great.  But how do we help break the cycle of addiction? How can we help our own friends and family members?  Is it so bad that we have to go to a 12 step program? Please don't give me the line about how we need to fix the "core" problem, because a LOT of people don't have a "core" problem, they just enjoy the game  and then the game slowly takes over there life.  I quit cold turkey after looking for solutions and coming up empty handed.  I still have the craving for WoW, so all I want to know is if anyone knows of any other ways to help gamers become less addicted.

 

I really enjoy the stories, but can someone please shoot out some ideas on how to help?

 

You're asking good questions. Thanks for that. Don't worry about my blog time; it's a fraction of what I used to spend gaming, and I get to bed every night by nine or ten o'clock and up at 5 or 6 am and off to work.

I wish Dr. Phil had asked me what's working for me to keep me "game-free" for nine months now.

First, faith in God. Or in 12-step language, belief in a Higher Power.

Second, reconnecting with family and friends and letting them know what's going on.

Third, rigorous honesty with myself and others. Working the Steps. Getting up and going to work like a grown up is supposed to.

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Fourth, moderate, consistent physical exercise a few times a week to help lose weight - I've lost 20 pounds - and deal with anxiety, depression and the urge to play.

Fifth, healthy eating, to match the exercise.

Sixth, counselling, and medication (if necessary).

That's my program. It's not rocket science. It's just a more balanced lifestyle.

Brad

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October 28, 2008, 6:30 pm PDT

And Yours Are?

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Either people get it or they don't, but I'm tired of all the biased thoughts.
And your thoughts are entirely objective and unbiased? I can definitely see how you're able to step back and see your gaming clearly, without any other considerations weighing on your mind, or perhaps not.
 
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October 29, 2008, 7:15 am PDT

Thanks bud...

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Also, I went to your site.  I have to say that I learned a lot from this thread, especially about myself and what others are going through.  I'm a gamer, as I said before, but because I am I gamer doesn't mean that I should be a turd to other people who are having a hard time coping with people who play video games in their lives.  I won't say that I know a lot, but I will say that I was truly biased on this issue and luckily, I can see it now from both views.  However, I won't say that video games themselves ruin lives, I can say that maybe because of over excessive gaming, people are able to block out certain aspects of life and unknowningly, since they're so engrossed into their game, neglect other parts of their life, like their family, friends and such forth.  But I also don't think that gaming addiction is easy to pin down.  Because truly, I still can't find the line to draw between over obsessed gamer or just a guy playing a game for a hobby.   But I guess it just comes down to when the person is ready to be able to doing something else other than gaming, or just continue as he or she is.  Gaming can be an addiction and so can many other things.  But I don't think that it should be so attacked like it always is.  There is a positive to gaming as well.  There are many games that have you focus on actual thinking and targeting certain aspects of the mind.  For example, look at the new game Little Big Planet.  It's amazing, yet such a simple idea just made complex.  Sure, people may not see it as a ground breaking game, but for something that's not all about shoot'em up violence, I was pleasently surprised.  Also, I had a talk with my friend to gain more knowledge on WoW, because I'm not a player.  And honestly, I can see why now why it's such an awesome game.  It's not just a package of "you do this, then this, then this and then you go and do this and you get an item" or whatever.  It's more than that.  It also requires a level of thinking because of the strategies you need to think up to win and to gain things with that game.  Truthfully, and I'm not afraid to say it, I was a bitch on this thread.  ( really hope I don't get reported for the use of that word, lol)  And for all the people I offended, including you exgamerdotcom (I hope I got that right), I had no right.  You people were stating your views as I was mine.  Therefore, I apologize for not listening to what people were saying and just running on my anger and using harsh comments.  Also, exgamer, I learned quite a bit from you as well.  That there are actually programs for game addiction.  I didn't believe it was so serious until you said.  Don't get me wrong, my views didn't change.  More so, I just modified them a bit.  Truly, all in moderation is a great saying for this.  All in moderation.  So, after this long rant, which I may have bored people with, I say I'm sorry again and next time I'll look at both sides of the story and not let my anger win out--because I've been doing that a lot lately and I don't want to be a --insert first bad word that comes to mind here-- lmao.  Also, to colonialweaver (I hope I got that right) a BIG sorry to you.  I can tell you are probably hurting and if not, forgive me for assuming.  But my comment most likely didn't help matters and what your going through, what you said was right, you don't need cheap shot comments like mine and I'm sure I could have stated my point in a better way than previous.  So thats it.  Till next post.
No problem dude.

You may find my new podcast interesting. I just posted it on ExGamer.net - give it a listen.

-Brad

(Yes, that Brad)

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November 10, 2008, 6:06 pm PST

Dr. Phil didn't say that...

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Hi, I meant to write in on this subject right after the show aired, but with work and everything else it never happened.  I just wanted to point out though, that I disagree with Dr. Phil that playing video games affects all kids in a negative way.  I have two children, a son, who is almost 14, and a daughter, who is 20.  They both play a lot of video games, the main one being WORLD OF WARCRAFT, and I can honestly say that it has brought the two of them closer together by opening up the doors of communication between them.  At one time, my daughter couldn't stand her brother, and would have rather have died than to take the time to talk to him.  Now, I see them working together on quests and helping one another out....sometimes it actually almost makes me cry when I see them getting along so well.  Both of them are very smart and sometimes it amazes me when they start talking about the things that they are doing.  Another point I would like to make is, that even though they both play video games, that they both have lives outside of that realm and that they know the difference between the two.  My daughter Ansley, is a very talented artist and is currently working towards obtaining her degree in Graphic Arts, through the Art Institute, eventually hoping to get a degree in Game Art and Design.  My son Jeremy, is in the Gifted and Talented program at his school....he actually scored a Distinguished in every subject on his CATS test last year, even scoring the highest score possible on two of the sections, plays the Tuba in the 8th grade band, and is a trainee instructor at his TaeKwonDo school, which is a very big responsibility for a 13 year old, and will be testing for his 3rd degree black belt next weekend.  I understand that video games can cause a problem for some adults and even some kids, but I just wanted to point out that is not always the case.  I think there is more of a problem when parents do things like dropping their kids off at the mall or skate park (like we have here) and allow them to stay there until all hours of the night, not knowing what they are up to or who they are hanging out with. 

I was a guest on this episode, and I can say with confidence that Dr. Phil did not say that playing video games affects all kids in a negative way. I'm glad you're kids are doing well. Let's hope it stays that way. The games are a diversion; as long as they stay in their proper place, your kids will continue to succeed in just about anything they attempt.

Brad
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