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September 29, 2008, 3:05 pm PDT

Nine Year Old on Subway

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No, not just our own children, but children as a whole.  Often, times I find that extremely overprotective parents not only damage their own children, but are so other zealous about there own children getting everything, they hurt other children in the process and don't even care.  

Granted I haven't seen the show yet but from the preview I saw I was already rolling my eyes at the blond mom in the debate.   She was running around wasting gas in her SUV spying on her daughter who will probably be in college in a year acting wild and experimenting with everything because she was never given the ability to learn from her own mistakes or to make her own chooses.    

Now let's just take this type of overprotective mom.  She goes and buys an SUV because she thinks it will keep her little spoiled ones safe(even though study after study has shown that SUVs are actually more dangerous).  Then the next mom goes and buys an even bigger SUV.  Then the mom after that goes and buys an even bigger SUV.   Even though they won't outright admit it what they are saying by doing this is I can't control my kids and drive properly because I haven't bothered to properly discipline them and give them everything they want, so while I am driving with my head turned backwards trying to keep order, I would just assume kill someone elses children.   Then they all go and scratch there heads when they take there kids to the doctor and they all have breathing and lung related problems due to all the air pollution.   They then turn around the criticize the doctor saying that doctors in there days were beter at keeping them healthy (they were also up against a lot less).  

Now, I'm not saying give you kid 20 dollars and strand them in the middle of New York City, but there are things that all kids need to know that many don't get taught.  All kids should know how to use public transporation, manage finances/budget on a basic level, and understand how to share with others. Treating children like they are in a bubble, produces spoiled children who can't take care of themselves. 

If everyone cared about everyone elses children as much as they cared about there own all the children would benefit and the world would be a much better place.      
I believe that's just a cope out of not being an active parent. She [the guest] doesn't want her son to interfere with her schedule, so she "teaches her child to be independent." That is outrageous to me, especially at nine years of age. That is a great way to mask that parents actually don't want to parent. I find the root of one of the many difficulties that I face as a teacher is that parents allow their kids to experience adult situations, conversations, and responsibilities too soon. When they [children] come to school, they believe that they are awarded the same freedoms that their parents give them at home, and that is not the case. They have no idea of limitations and barriers; this makes it difficult for educators.
Izzy is not the norm. I truly believe "God watches the child that [has to] have his own." As long as the parent teaches them about rules, regulations, and procedures of the rest of the world, independence is great thing.
For the over baring parent, and I do apologize for the lack of a better phrase, lighten up.
 
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September 29, 2008, 3:10 pm PDT

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I believe that's just a cope out of not being an active parent. She [the guest] doesn't want her son to interfere with her schedule, so she "teaches her child to be independent." That is outrageous to me, especially at nine years of age. That is a great way to mask that parents actually don't want to parent. I find the root of one of the many difficulties that I face as a teacher is that parents allow their kids to experience adult situations, conversations, and responsibilities too soon. When they [children] come to school, they believe that they are awarded the same freedoms that their parents give them at home, and that is not the case. They have no idea of limitations and barriers; this makes it difficult for educators.
Izzy is not the norm. I truly believe "God watches the child that [has to] have his own." As long as the parent teaches them about rules, regulations, and procedures of the rest of the world, independence is great thing.
For the over baring parent, and I do apologize for the lack of a better phrase, lighten up.
 
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September 29, 2008, 3:26 pm PDT

I Concur

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I think it's not a question of one extreme or the other, I believe it is ideal for parents to find a medium between the two. Not constantly hovering over your child, but also not allowing them to do whatever they want. I believe it's a good idea to allow them some freedom so they can learn to handle themselves, but also have a level of discipline so that they can understand that it's not responsible or smart to just go off and do whatever.
Yes, parents have to teach their kids that they can't do want the want.

Returning to a reference from the show; Izzy did have a comment about "not doing" what adults wanted him to do. A medium must be formed,
 

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