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September 17, 2007, 6:17 am PDT

effects on children

As many as 70% of men who batter women also batter their children, making the presence of spouse abuse
the single most identifiable risk factor for predicting child abuse. Physical abuse results not just in the
obvious physical injuries, but also in many of the same effects which form the aftermath of psychological maltreatment. [See below]
? Physical injuries include: skeletal injuries, neurological and ocular damage, broken bones, third-degree burns,
bruises, lacerations, contusions, gastric or intestinal perforations and intestinal obstructions. ? "Over 60% of all abuse fatalities and over 50% of all cases of permanent disability occur among
children under 2 years of age, primarily from head injuries." [Italics added.]



"Repeated and chronic exposure to interpersonal or family violence in childhood (either as a victim or a witness) has been associated with:
? chronic or delayed post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD),
? adolescent and adult substance abuse,
? a wide variety of child, adolescent and adult behavioral disorders,
? depression,
? suicidality,
? self-mutilation (i.e., cutting),
? an intolerance for or constant search for intimacy, and
? diagnoses of multiple and borderline personality disorder."

 

 

 

I have to add that I'm living proof (or rather my children are) that the children don't have to be the victim of physical abuse to suffer from the "side effects." 

Living in an emotionally abusive household is enough...MORE than enough.....I can attest to that personally.  Becky


 
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September 17, 2007, 6:40 am PDT

General Advice

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 I need some good advice and support. I believe I suffer from what has been identified as Anger illness. I lose my temper regularly with my children aged 6 and 10. I was never an angry person and when i divorced after a 10yr abusive marriage I was ok for a couple of years but in the last 3yrs i have suffered badly from anger outbursts towards my kids.

I have narrowed this behaviour down to a number of things.

Firstly i suffer from anxiety and have a terrible fear of "what others think of me" I feel now that when my kids do something wrong or "unacceptable" I take it as a reflection of my parenting and believe others will judge my parenting by their behaviours aswell. I fly into a rage behind closed doors fuelled by embarrassment and shame.

Secondly the anger I display is the same as the anger inflicited on me by my ex husband. I words i say and even the physical attacks mimic those of what i suffered for 10yrs. I know now this has been a learnt behaviour.

I am at the point where i am embarrassed , ashamed and scared to get help locally. I know I need help but i dont know where to go or what to do. I need support through this time. Can anyone out there offer me some advice, techniques or support that will help me get through this.

First of all, I don't "buy" this "anger illness" bit. I've seen several episodes of the show from the "doctor" that has identified this as an "illness". What I find curious is that all the women (b/c I've only seen women on the show) are able to control their "outbursts" in every other aspect except at home, BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. They manage control quite well while in a public setting, then lose it once they get into the privacy of their own home.

That being said...I'm not here to judge you. If calling it an "illness" facilitates change in even ONE person's life, then it's worth it. Whatever has to be done to get the women to seek help for themselves, and their children.

Please seek counseling for yourself, and your children as well. You're exhibiting learned behaviors, and your children are bearing the brunt of that. Knock on every door, contact whomever you can think of to get the help you need. I think you need more help than a cyber-stranger can give you. If I had something, believe me...you'd have it. The best I can do is to urge you to seek out some help for yourself. There is a "parenting helpline"...maybe you can call them and talk to someone the next time you're about to rage at your children. The number....

1.877. 446.6865

There is a social services helpline, but I don't know what kind of resources they can help with. It might be a good start, though...that number is simply "211".

Good luck...I sincerely hope you find the help you need.

 
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September 17, 2007, 7:01 am PDT

abuse myths

Myth 1:
It's because he was abused as a child.
Truth: In a study done of abusers, 61% stated they were abused in childhood. When attached to a lie detector, less than 29% actually had been abused.
Fact: An abuse may embelish his childhood suffering once he discovers it helps him escape responsibility for his actions.

Myth 2:
He had a previous partner who mistreated him terribly.
Truth: When most abusers claim this, the behaviors they attribute to their ex are most often THEIR own.
Fact: An abuser can mistreat partner after partner in relationships, each time believing that the problems are all the women's fault and that he is the real victim. Always check the story out with the former partner.

Myth 3:
He's abusive because he feels strongly about me.
Truth: Although our feelings can influence how we wish to act, our CHOICES are determined by our attitudes and beliefs. This is why when YOU are going through strong emotions, you choose a different emotional outlet other than abuse.

Myth 4:
He holds his feelings in too much and they build up until he bursts.
Truth: Abusers have an exaggerated sense of how important their feelings are, and they act them out and talk them out all the time, until their partners and children are exhausted from hearing about it all. When he feels bad he feels life should stop for everyone else until someone fixes his discomfort.
Fact: Their inner world is all that matters. The mounting tension is actually driven by his LACK of empathy for your feelings and regular marriage, individual, or couples counseling just feeds his feeling of importance.

Myth 5: He has a violent, explosive personality.
Truth: Abusers are fairly calm in all dealings other than with their partner.
Fact: Sometimes the more educated an abuser, the more knots he can tie in a woman's brain, the better he is at getting her to blame herself, and the slicker is his ability to persuade other people she's crazy

Myth 6: He loses control of himself.
Truth: He only breaks your stuff and is only out of control when it won't embarrass him. If he were trully remorseful he would help clean up. An abuser may 'go wild' but never truly forgets his limits.
Fact: An abuser almost never does anything he considers morally unacceptable. His core problem is a distorted sense of right and wrong. The abuser's problem lies in his belief that he is justified in controlling or abusing his partner.

Myth 7: He's too angry, needs anger management
Truth: Abusers carry attitudes that produce fury. The abuser's anger can DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION FROM ALL THE DISRESPECT, IRRESPONSIBILITY, TALKING OVER YOU, LYING, AND OTHER ABUSIVE BEHAVIORS that he exhibits even at times when he isn't especially upset.
Fact: His most intimidating form of abuse may come out when he's angry, but his deeper pattern of control is operating ALL the time.

Myth 8: He's crazy.
Truth: Their value system is unhealthy, not their psychology. A man whose destructive behaviors are confined primarily to intimate relationships is an abuser.
Fact: Abusers don't like to be medicated because they are too selfish to put up with the side effects. No medication has been discovered that can turn an abuser into a loving, considerate, appropriate partner

Myth 9: He hates women
Truth: Disrespect for women certainly is rampant among abusive men. Attitude that their partners should cater to their needs and are not worthy of being taken seriously carries even to their own daughters and is passed on to their sons through modeling.
Fact: The great majority of abusive men have a sense of superiority or contempt towards females and don't show any obvious signs of problems with women until they are in a serious relationship.

Myth 10: He is afraid of intimacy and abondonment.
Truth: Abusive men are often jealous and possessive, and their coercive and destructive behaviors can escalate when their partners attempt to break up with them.
Fact: Most abusive men have their worst incidents after a period of tension - not closeness, so their fear of intimacy was never triggered from a psychological stand point.

Myth 11: He suffers from low self-esteem
Truth: An abusive man expects catering, and the more positive attention he receives, the more he demands. He never reaches a point where he is satisfied, where he has beengiven enough. He gets used to the luxurious treatment he is receiving and soon escalates his demands.
Fact: Abusers like this myth because it gets them more sympathy with their partner, therapist, and others.

Myth 12: His boss abuses him/Stress at work
Truth: I have never once had a client whose behavior at home has improved because of a job change.

Myth 13: He has poor communication skills
Truth: An abusive man is not UNABLE to resolve conflict. He is UNWILLING to do so. Abusers have normal abilities to resolve conflict when they CHOOSE to use them (work, public, with extended family). They DON'T WANT to handle these kinds of issues nonabusively when it involves their partners.

Myth 14: There are just as many abusive women as abusive men
Truth: Abusive men commonly like to play the role of victim and most men who claim to be 'battered' are actually the perpetrators of violence, not the victim.

Myth 15: Abuse is as bad for the man who is doing it as it is for his partner.
Truth: Abusers actually benefit from their controlling behavior. They don't experience emotional or physical pain, loss of freedom, self-blame, etc.



Myth 16: The alcohol (substance of choice) makes him abuse.
Truth: Alcohol cannot create an abuser, and sobriety cannot cure one. The only way an abuser can overcome his abusiveness is to deal with his abusiveness. You are not 'enabling' your partner to mistreat you, he is entirely responsibl for his own actions.

Truth: He wants to pluck your view of reality out of your head and replace it with his.

Realities:
1) He is controlling
2) He feels entitled
3) He twists things into their opposites
4) He disrespects his partner and considers himself superior to her
5) He confuses love and abuse
6) He is manipulative
7) He strives to have a good public image
8) He feels justified in abusing his partner
9) Abusers deny and minimize their abuse
10) Abusers are possessive

Abuse grows from attitudes and values, not feelings. The roots are ownership, the trunk is entitlement, and the branches are control.

Abuse and respect are opposites. Abusers cannot change UNLESS they overcome their core of disrespect toward their partners.

Abusers are far more conscious of what they are doing than they appear to be.

Abusers are UNWILLING to be nonabuse, not UNABLE

You are not crazy

 

Ok...I *think* I'm done...for now.....Becky

 
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September 17, 2007, 7:34 am PDT

Abuse

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Just wanted to post and give an update and to get some advice and encouragement.

 

Yesterday was such a down day, one of the worst since he has been gone. I found out that when he had the kids he took them out with his family and did things with them. This made me jealous and upset. Jealous because this is always what I do with the kids and upset because he never did it with the kids. Part of me is happy that he spent such great quality time with the kids but another part is still bothered because he is now doing things he wouldn't when we were together. A catch 22. I am trying to let these feelings go because they are not productive and they are immature.

 

My job is going good. I actually love it and the kids are adjusting to it so far. My sis gets them all after school and keeps them so I don't feel bad like I have abandoned them. This makes me feel better, good job and great kids!!

 

I do at times miss my STBX. This bugs me. I want him to comfort me and show me he loves me and be there for me. I still can't let those feeling go. Of course he hardly ever did those things before - but still I miss them. I know that I need to learn to comfort myself and this is hard to learn to do - though I have had to do it for a majority of our relationship. It is just hard and it sucks sometimes. I need to post here more often - my life and to help encourage others, that helps me a lot - I get so much out of what I advise others, I'm like 'dang, I need to do that too!' LOL you know how that can go.

 

Well have a good and safe day everyone! Take care :)

I just wanted to tell you that your feelings are perfectly understandable and normal. That you feel they're "not productive and immature" doesn't make them any less real to you. Of course you wish he'd done these things while you all were together. If he truly hasn't shifted the manipulations, and efforts to control (and abuse) from you to the kids...well..that's a good thing. So many of them DO.

 

Wonderful that your job is going good!!!! Such satisfaction, such a sense of accomplishment and self esteem. YAY for you!! That the kids are adjusting well is a bonus! So happy for you ALL.

 

Of course there are times when you're going to miss your ex. It's not like these men were bad ALL the time. Sometimes it's hard to get past wanting what they simply are unable to give. Those feelings WILL pass with enough time. At least they did for me.

 

Be kinder to yourself. Understand that you're going to have a whole host of emotions to deal with. It's all part of the healing process. Yes, it is hard..and yes, it does suck sometimes. Total agreement from me there on that one. But I found that the better I was to myself, the easier the process became. *I* became important to me.

 

Here's wishing you peace, comfort and blessings......Becky

 
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May 19, 2009, 12:14 pm PDT

so long, so much

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Thanking you Anita, for your  regards.

 

My relative has not passed yet,  however the medical situation is dire  and it will happen....sorry to say, sooner rather than later.

 

I am very involved in the necessary care at the present.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was able to recently pop in on a "borrow". Heartened to see familiar faces continuing the good fight. Many  prayers coming your way in light of your situation. I miss everyone tremendously.
So much has happened in the last year. Too much to post. I will forever cherish a remembered phone call. Will likely be quite some time before I'm able to pop in again, but did so want to say hi to those near and dear.
Keep up the good work!  Love to you all...............Becky
 
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May 19, 2009, 12:32 pm PDT

Living Together

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I'm in a relationship and living with the guy.  I'm a 45 yr old mother of 4 and grandmother of 5.  I had my own home and was doing quite well financially.  I wasn't rich but I was making it.  I had come from a bad marriage of 12 yrs and slowly rebuilt up my credit to having my home, a car and living my life.  Then at the end of 2007 I lost my job and financially everything went down hill.  I lost my car due to repossession and am in the process of a chapter 7 bankruptcy and am living with my b/f.  But I don't feel comfortable here most of the time.  He is divorced also with 3 kids.  I still haven't been able to clear out my home and what little bit of things I have brought with me like pictures, I can't hang up and he hasn't made me feel as if I can.  It took me 3 months to finally get him to let me bring my refrigorator over , because mine works right, nothing is broken on it.  And I also feel uncomfortable not having an income to help contribute to the living expenses.  I still receive a little bit of child support which is about to run out because my youngest has turned 18 and will be graduating soon.  So I can help buy groceries, which feeds just the 2 of us during the week and his son every weeekend and girls every other weekend.  And I keep the home cleaned, laundry done and meals cooked and help take care of his 9 yr old daughters every other weekend when he has them.  He lives is  a nice double wide trailer on his parents property and I feel he lets them run his life to much.  I had a beautiful husky that I wanted to bring over here and his parents said no, because they think that type of dog is dangerous, but he was also told we could do whatever we wanted, the dog ended up having to go to one of my daughters' homes after she nearly starved to death because I could only get him to take me over to feed her at my home maybe once a week if I was lucky.  I love him but don't like the fact that he has to run things by them first. Or the fact that he hides things from them or lies to them.  Right now I am desperate for work and without my own vehicle I can't even got out to look, so that maybe I could help out here or save up the money and buy a car and get back out on my own.  I don't know if I should stay where I am or take a friend up on her offer to move back to Ohio and stay with her and her fiancee while I look for work and get the money saved back up for a car and get my own place.  HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Your advice would be extremely helpful in my making a decision.
Maybe  b/c I'm on the outside  reading in, so to speak....but the answer seems perfectly clear to me when viewing this man's "resume". While I'm sure you can speak of some positives about this man, the negatives far outweigh. And I don't have to know what the positives might be to make that call. What I don't quite understand is your willingness to exist in a relationship that is "less than". You're obviously unhappy or you wouldn't be posting here. Maybe you're hoping things will change? It's not likely. What you see is what you get. Someone once told me "if you keep doing what you've been doing, you'll keep getting what you've been getting". That has become my mantra of sorts. If I don't like things, *I* am the only one that can change them. I can't change someone else, only MYSELF. Same with all of us.
If you don't like this situation, you are the only one who can do anything about it. Don't let fear of the unknown stop you from having and being all that you can be!! Life CAN be good.
If you have a good friend who cares enough about you to let you move in with her and her fiancee so that you can get back on your feet...please take her up on it!! Don't let fear dictate your life. Jump out there with both hands and feet (and a little  help from our friends) and make the kind of life you want for yourself. A life that doesn't involve a grown man deferring to his parents. A life that YOU live for you. Life can be sweet, life can be wonderful. But it's up to YOU to make it that way. Good luck to you, I wish you all the best.....
 
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August 22, 2009, 2:56 pm PDT

How I miss

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OMG, OMG...can it be?

 

Can it be?

 

Is it? Is it really you?

 

Goodness gracious girl, what a surprise of all surprises !

 

So extremely nice to hear but a few words of hello from you.

 

Have missed your postings, your participation, your kindness & caring for all.

 

So many  "near and dear" are greatly missed.

 

Have you been in touch with "dear heart's" grocery store man?

 

So many cherished, warm and loving memories.

 

Tears , , , , ,

 

 

Too much, too many changes.

 

Nothing feels the same.  Perhaps someday soon, many will rally, possibly a reunion of sorts.

 

Time will tell, we shall see.

 

Please find a way to "borrow" again, real soon.

 

Treasured memories  of all, never to be forgotten.

 

Porch lights  on, everyone.

 

Porch lights on !

 

Embrace those you love.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Each and every one of you!! Unfortunately I can't get on the internet anymore. I'm only able to do this rarely. How I miss so much. You're right...nothing feels the same. Nothing IS the same.

In a word...I haven't been in touch with the "grocery store man". And while whatever pain I might be dealing wtih currently in my life, I cannot even getin to compare it with someone else's. My heart can bear only so much pain, however selfish that may sound. Forgive me for that. Things have transpired in my own personal life that have caused me so much. Pain. I've always said it's been myy most faithful of lovers. Never deserting me. It comes in many shapes, fashions and forms. And yet...only so much. It would sound extremely selfish to talk of my own personal losses, and the losses of those near and dear. I'm afraid that I'm not as strong as I used to be. I will allow myself a selfish moment here and say that I've had my heart ripped out from things that happened in my own family. Add things from my "extended" family and sometimes it's simply too much. However...it is what it is. You deal the best you can.

I miss you all so much. Those of you dealing wtih your own personal pains...hang in here. People here care, probably more than you'll ever know. They understand. They love. Let that love envelop you,  you won't regret it.

I hope some day to be able to be back regularly. I will go out on a limb and state that I WILL be back someday. I can't wait.

My love to all. Strength is within that love.

 

And Pleasance....my porch light burns. Always.

                                     

 

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