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January 22, 2006, 5:59 am PST

A little light

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I wanted to tell you that it seems that you and I are both faithfull women, not of the same faith, but we do believe in something, let's leave it at that.  I never once told you that you were believing the wrong thing, but I did say that not everyone will agree with you.  You are telling me that I am wrong, that my beleifs do not exist and with that I am finished.  I can tell that you are the kind of person that will push your beliefs on others until they cave and say that you are right.  I'm sorry, but I know what I am doing is right for me, not for you.  With regards to Paganism, I think you need to do some research, it may do you some good to learn about a different religion.........it was one of the first religions before Christianity, don't forget that.  All in all, I have enjoyed conversing with you, as you have made myself even stronger in my beliefs.  I have met people like you and they were not clear about my beliefs until they did research and found out that it is not bad, that maybe I was doing the right thing.......if only everyone were like them.  I think if you look into it more, you may have a better understanding.  I just wanted to say goodbye for now and please, try not to be so harsh in your words towards others.  I wish you good fortune and blessed be.

I think countrycrow let her emotions take hold of her response and it came out a little over bearing but she does have a point. I am a Christian myself and very proud & secure in my love and faith in Christ.  I will admit I have never read a pagan book or looked to any other god or goddess for anything. I can say that it hasn't been until the last couple of years that my true understanding and faith has grown. My walk with God is stronger now through what I have read in the Bible and from what I have experienced through church.  

Because I have not read a thing about paganism (Frankly it scares the daylights out of me) I can't argue a thing about what is written in any pagan book What I can argue is what is written in the Bible. Revelation 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega" says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is yet to come, the Almighty"  

My point is... If God is the Alpha (the beginning, no other before) then wouldn't that mean that Christianity was first? Because Christians believe in God and the word of the Holy Bible. It also states in the Bible that God created the world in 7 days. That would be Genesis 1- 1:31. That would be all about on how on the first day God said "Let there be Light" and Shazam! There was Light. And It continues on with creation of the earth and everything on it. On the seventh day however God rested and declared that the Sabbath day. Hence is where us Christians get that & spend that day in church. My next point to be was .... If God created the earth and everything in it, wouldn't that make Christianity the first religion as well? So I am pretty confident that paganism is NOT the first religion "don't forget that!" 

I want to also say that Satan believes in God as well. He was after all an angel of God. He thought that he could do it better however and so now we live daily with the ramifications of his huge ego. 

CountryCow would not be doing her/his part as a Chrisitan if she/he was not spreading the word of the gospel. It is her dutie to share the word of the Bible. As a Christian I am sure that she/he pray's for others to find their way to Christ before it is to late for them. I will apologize for CountryCow or any other Christian, including myself, if anything has ever been said to turn you away from God because that is not what is wanted for you. I know the Bible can put some people off because there are things written that are very difficult to understand but maybe try reading other Christian books. The "Left Behind" series is absolutly phennominal at the way it explains the Bible. Like your asking others to look into your beliefs and give it a chance, I am asking the same of you. Give Christianity a chance and maybe you will understand the passion of it. 

God bless! 

  

P.S. CountryCow~ We all judge...We all fall short of the "Glory of God" 

 
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January 22, 2006, 6:53 am PST

Depression

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Welcome to the board heather, 

sounds like youve had a hard time of it. My name is blaze i have dealt with depression for over 13 years. along with some other disorders. I understand about the melt down have had two of them. and hve had two neck surgurys in the last two years. some psychatrist have a sliding scale fee check into it. they are the best ones to see for meds. and maybe get a therapist if you can. but where your not working that maybe hard. I am sorry to hear about your son. Hope things get better for you. Easier said then done.  

Welcome again. everyone here is very supportive  

Thank you. It really seemed like everyone was very supportive  and compassionate. I thought having an outlet is so helpful and I am finding that people who have experienced some of the same things are usally a little easier to speak with. I have had some pretty condemning Dr's. 

I feel recovering from illness's or injuries is very hard and just really adds to the depression. So thank you. I look forward to talking with everyone. 

 
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January 22, 2006, 10:14 am PST

Sorry

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January 22, 2006, 10:22 am PST

Proud American

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1. I am Dutch, not Arubian.  

2. The only country I need to fear is the USA. Becose it's the only country in this word who is so eager the have absolute word power. "You're for us, or you're against us". Well let me no choise. (I can't be neutral, can I)  

And let me tell you, you can never say to another country do this, or otherwise you don't treat us with respect. That's stupid / dump.  

  

As I already have said: You don't get respect by forse, you have to earn it.  

The US doesn't respect other country's, so why should we need to treat you (americans) like Gods?  

Then maybe the US should stop giving other countries money and we should definetly do as Dr. Phil stated and not visit Aruba any more. I'm sure when the Arubian economy takes a hit then the Americans won't be so bad.
 
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January 22, 2006, 4:46 pm PST

Please don't be sad

Quote From: jsdbaker

  

Dear YYC, 

  Thanks for your encouragement.  I just don't know that I'm worth fighting for.  too fat, too horrible, too ugly, too helpless, too mean, not able to help anyone - including myself.  I know you all seem to care - just don't know that I believe you.  been throughtoo much.  can't get over it.  don't want to see or talk to anyone.,  just putting down mythought s on the computer.  Nothings happened, just am a horrible horrible horrible person.  no I don't watch Joel Osteen.  I don';t have the energu. 

  I don't feel gooood.  my head hurts, feels really wobbly.  I should just take my hubbys gun and blowmy head off while he's gone.  He would be better off without me - since he doesn't understand - just tells me to get my lazy butt up. 

  No, didn't go to church today,  why bother? 

 I'm not expecting any responses from you al, just writing down some of  my feelings.Jewels 

You don't sound like a mean person. Really, really sad but not mean. I know when you are emotionally spent the physical affects start & so you feel even worse.  

Why do you think you are so horrible?  

Don't throw the towel in on yourself. I don't personally know you but I do know that I don't want you to feel so sad. It takes a lot to trust strangers with those kind of emotions and it's an awsome thing that you shared them. Thank you!!! 

  

 
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January 22, 2006, 4:56 pm PST

That is a tough one

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Hi,
I usually write on the a different board... But I figured that if anyone had any ideas...
On January 17 2005 a friend of mine (Very loving, strong, pentacostal christian woman) lost her 10yr old son in a house fire...
I haven't talked to her since March 2005 and I just don't know how to keep in touch... or to try and get back in touch with her now... I'm a "new christian" (3yrs) and not very good at the praying for a person thing..... and well.... just not sure how I can be a friend to her.... how I can help....
I have never delt with the childs death and the "loss" of a friend... It is on my mind almost everyday  

Maybe just call her and say "I've been thinking about you so much lately, how you doing?" If conversation doesn't just flow maybe let her know some things that have been going on with you & maybe it will be like you have talked to her every week since the accident or maybe she is just in need of a friend (especially with the date just passing) and talking to you may be the answer to her prayers. No matter what, Good Luck. It sounds like you miss her.
 
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January 22, 2006, 5:13 pm PST

people care

Quote From: jsdbaker

  

  Why bother sharing, 

  When I talk with hubby - he just gets mad at me because I'm listening to the devil and allowing the devil to bring a wedge between my husband and I.  Does it ( depression and suicide) happen to me because I'm listening to the devil? 

  I know the darkness and the pain are real.  How to get out and have more strength and energy and how to be me again - that I don't know.  I feel numb all over today.  back hurts arm and fingers numb again, head wobbly,  eyes hurt.  I'm hopeless.  Yes, I've been taking my meds.  I don't think they are helping. 

  My doc wonders if some of my depression is caused by my husband controlling me - could that be?  I don;'t see him as controlling.  unsupportive in dealing with the depression, yes, not willing to let me go shopping unless he know what its for and if he agrees that we need it - yes,  

  I didn't go to church today - just don't want to.  I'm tired of being fake! 

I am hopeless,  It isn't any use for you all to try to respond, I probably wont believe you anyway.  I know your trying - i'mn just venting.  all I see right now is blackness.  It's so black.  can i take some sleeping pills and never wake up - let the blackness take me away. Jewels 

I don't think it is because you are listening to the devil. I believe he is doing what he can to break you down. But it sounds like you have taken steps to make yourself feel better and that isn't what the devil would want you to do. Maybe your meds need to be adjusted. How long have you been on your current meds? I just started Zoloft a month & a half ago and so far those have been wonderful for me. I hope I don't ever have to adjust my meds but when you feel that horrible I think it should be taken into consideration. 

Do you like the Church you go too? Even if that is the only place you go all week at least that's a good place to be. I didn't go to church today either. I have been looking for a new church (not as actively as I should) but I have not found the one that makes me feel good. I do really miss going. I loved my old church, but we live to far from it now. 

What do you think about your husband being controlling? Do you think he is? Is it something that really impacts the way you feel? If it does then I would say yes. Does he go to counsling with you? It sounds like it may be beneficial to him as well.  

Hang in there sweetie. People do care. I care :) 

 
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January 22, 2006, 5:24 pm PST

Great Advice!

Quote From: nightlady

I know your confused and don't know what to do and I'm sorry.  As one severely depressed person to another, please take one step to help yourself.  Go to your local hospital ER tell them your suicidal and all the physical things your experiencing.  The hospital can get you some help.  They can help you with your insurance.  If it's an emergency, and it is an emergency, your insurance can't refuse to pay. 

  

You've got to get some help and the sooner the better. 

That is really great advice. You really need to see a Dr. ASAP.
 
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January 22, 2006, 5:24 pm PST

Night

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Good evening to all here on the board.
Have a great Night!
 
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January 22, 2006, 5:31 pm PST

Oh No

Quote From: outwithit

I appreciate the sympathy... we all need that eh?  I am in terrible pain and even worse, I am alone and can barely lock the door (my left arm cannot reach up, even a little, and I cannot grab lock with right hand so, it took me awhile and I did get it done) through tears no less.

I'll be fine, no back injuries like some on here, I know it will heal, just difficult on ones own.

Thanks again,

Cheers,

G

ps-no it is not the devil,  next thing people will say is  that Tom Cruise was indeed right!  :)

G
You are to funny! Please don't say he was right ....that means I'm wrong. LOL!
 

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