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April 15, 2006, 8:54 pm PDT

Can't wait to die

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Thanks for responding to my post.  I lived in the Bay Area all my life until about 14 years ago.  In fact I lived up in the Santa Cruz Mountains while I was in High School.  Graudated for Los Gatos High School.  It's a small world.   

  

My stepfather committed suicide almost two years ago so I kind of know what you've been through.  They do say that suicide can run in families but I guess we just have to fight our thoughts and try to make our lifes better.  If you'd like to chat more post me again, I'll be looking for you. 

This is my 1st time. I am 50 yrs old and the 1st time I remember thinking about suicide was when I was 12.  There were yrs that I didn't think about it, but it always comes back. I'm married and have a good job and friends, but I just don't want to live this life anymore.  I'm so tired of being so sad. I've been in hospitals, therapy and have been on antidepressants for awhile now.  Nothing seems to help.  I even tell people I'm dying, I guess for attention. The pain keeps coming back. I don't even remember the last time I was happy.  I just put on my stupid happy face in front of people. I am funny and witty and if you knew me, you would think I am the last person to have these thoughts. These cheerful messages just make me sick.

 
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April 17, 2006, 7:43 am PDT

can't wait to die

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Let me just say I know exactly what your talking about.  I been through the same feelings and no matter what I do the thoughts and feelings come back.  I'm funny and witty too and people have a hard time understanding me.  I put on the mask and survive each day.  I've been on medication, in the hospital (many, many) times.  But something happened this week that really stopped me in my tracks.  I thought I was having a heart attack and went to the hospital.  They thought I had had one too but the test came back OK.  They kept me over night in the hospital and when my doctor came in he said they thought I have a blockage in the heart and what did I want them to do if my heart stopped, let me go or try to bring me back.  I didn't know what to say.  When I thought about it for a second I decided I really didn't want to die and I told him to try to bring me back.  It was a very strange experience.  I didn't really think that I could just die all of a sudden.  I've had to reevaluate my life and my thoughts on death and dying.  I go for tests this week to see if I do have a blockage and if they'll have to do surgery.  I'm scared.  What am I afraid of, dying I guess.

 

Hang in there, if you really give it some thought you don't want to die you just want all the crap in you life to stop and all the mental stuff that keeps going through your head.  I'm around if you'd like to chat some more.

Thanks for writing back.  I sincerely hope everything goes well with you.  I've been in the hospital with what they thought was a heart attack also.  The drs also thought I had a fatal disease, but after more testing, found out I didn't.  That made me angry because I thought that would have been perfect!  I'm not afraid of dying.  But, you are right, I do want all the crap to go away, but it just doesn't.  When one piece of crap goes away, another one comes along and replaces it.  There is no end to this.  My heart is never happy, and I don't see any changes coming after all these years. I'm just so tired of it all. I think it is wonderful that you have changed, but this is all I have known all my life. I know there is no end to this pain for me. It's always there, it's just some days it's stronger. Lately, it's been strong for days on end without any relief. The only peace is knowing I can stop it.  I don't want to live my life like this anymore.  I'm hanging in there, but only until I can get all my business affairs in order.  Good Luck on you testing.
 
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April 26, 2006, 12:42 pm PDT

I understand

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I HOPE SOMEONE IS READING THIS NOW I WANT TO DIE BUT I CANT EVEN DO THAT, I HAVE TOO MANY RESPONSABILATIES
I know exactly how you feel! I, too, want to die.  I'm trying to get ins. papers, etc. in order. I don't want to live this life anymore.  Maybe some people will be sad, but at least I won't keep hurting people or feeling this pain over and over again. It may go away, but it always comes back.  I do know people do get over this, and I pray you are one of them.  I just hope it helps knowing  you are not alone.  I don't need anyone's guilt about if it's the right thing to do or even if I have a right to do it.  I have no kids and I have enough guilt without loading another one on me. But, please, take advantage of all the help there is.  For me, years of this has helped at times, it's just it keeps coming back.  You may be a much stronger person than I.
 
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April 30, 2006, 3:34 pm PDT

I'm new, too

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and about anything you need to or want to. Welcome. i'm Tama.
I've been reading message boards.  I'm pretty new, too.  I have suffered from depression for years.  Sometimes it goes away, but it always comes back.  It's been a yo-yo emotion for years..I'm on medication and have been in therapy.  It's helped. but I'm just tired of it always coming back.  I wish it would just stay away!  I've been at one of my lowest points ever and everything seems so hopeless.  I cry often and wish my life would just hurry up and be over.  I pray for that everyday.  Maybe it will help to talk with some of y'all.
 
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April 30, 2006, 8:05 pm PDT

I know

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and i too just wish it would hurry up and be over...... i wasnt expecting or expected to live past my mid 20's. then i made it to 30 and then it was like well she wont make it to 35. well im 38 and will be 39 in june..... all because of something that happend to me in april of 2000. and i got sick and i lost a lot of my memorry and things. and a lot of emotions too. and now i have a lot of problems thinking and a hard time remembering things. but the one thing that i did loose that everyone is so glad that is gone is my hate and rage and in side anger........ they all like that those are gone from me since then..... but i still have my depression and hate towards myself..... i dont want to live and i hate myself and mybody and i am out to destroy me and my body.....i can and do love others and anyone but me,myself and i.........tama

It is so good to hear from someone that can understand.  I will be 51 this Friday. Everyone wants to go celebrate cuz my birthday is Cinco de Mayo.  I'll go because I can't say no, but I really don't want to.  All it means is putting on a fake smile and acting like I'm enjoying myself when all I want is to not be on this earth anymore.  I also love others but not myself.  It gets really lonely. I tried talking to my husband and he doesn't like me on these message boards cuz he says I shouldn't be "hanging out my dirty laundry." 

 
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May 1, 2006, 12:50 am PDT

Secrets

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and happy birthday early.... yeah sometimes you want to celabrate and sometimes you dont.... there have been lots of times that our family (mom,dad me and my brother) have not felt like celabrating on the day of something and weve done it on another day. heck if we ever do it on the right day its a celabration in its self. lol....and that includes Christmas and Thanksgivng too. because mom always has to work or dad was sick or just didnt feel like going anyplace. and they're his relatives. he wasnt at most of the family gatherings . mostly after my grandpa died...... and after my dad got sick he went even less. there were time i was the only one that went to any of them........and even now its like there are so many of my cousins that are married and now that my grandma has moved in with my other aunt.... it is a long ways to go to spend holidays with her and them so i spend it with my other aunt like i have been when grandma was living with her....... anyway dad and mom both never like it when ever me or my brother says anything to anyone about what is going on in our 4some family. what went and still goes on in our family the 3 of us now should stay with us......well when i had to start therapy its like well if i am not aloud to talk about the family what am i supose to talkl about that is what these drs want me to talk about. and even now my mom asks me if i tell them about certain things conserning us and i say well yeah and she dont think i should because of what they might think of her and us. i said well what am i supose to talk about......???? i grew up not talking about things i should have talked about and thats why im in therapy and on meds and all messed up and will be for ever..........and even now i still have things i will not talk about because of what it would do to others and i wont hurt others . too many have already been hurt because of what i said when i was with other drs. and when i trusted other not to tell and they did. so i dont tell anyone my deep dark secretes......and what is really in my head and on my mind......believe me you really dont want to know whats in my head.....and neither do my dr.s or anyone else...........tama

Well, it's 2:30 am Central Time.  Slept alittle. I know about deep dark secrets.  I had talked to my therapist about it, but couldn't do what she wanted me to do because I couldn't hurt that person either.  I did  tell my sister, but she didn't believe me anyway.  So, I just keep it inside and try not to think about it, but it has a way of sneaking up on me from time to time.  I am also diabetic.  My dad had diabetes and died from complications.  That was over 30 yrs ago.  They didn't have the meds they do now.  But, I have stopped taking them.  Anything to speed my death along, I guess. I have often thought of suicide, but I'm just trying to find a way so as not to hurt my husband, like I don't want him finding my body. I've been in the hospital twice over the last 11 yrs with suicidal ideation.  It really helped for awhile.  Of course, I had to leave the hospital when my ins. was up!  But, I continued the therapy.  I was in a group with all women and we split the cost of the hour session.  That was pretty cool.  But the thoughts keep coming back and I don't know how to stop them forever. I don't know, but sometimes I have been thinking about going back in the hospital.  I have been at my job for 17 yrs, so I have like 37 days of vacation. Don't know what my husband will think of it though.  I was married before when I was last in the hospital and that husband left me. He blamed me being in hospital for divorce.  Guess he thought I was just crazy. But, then I think, why bother?  It might help awhile, but the sadness and hopelessness will just return.  Why go through all that again. I was first suicidal when I was 12.  This has been nearly 40 yrs of living hell. How much more must I endure?  Well, I guess I'll go lay down and see what's on TV.  I'm trying not to take sleeping pills as much.  I can hardly find strength to get up anyway.  But, it helps to shut off my mind.  Anyway, those pills may come in handy. 

 
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May 1, 2006, 7:54 am PDT

Good Morning

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I cannot tell you how touched I am when I saw my name on your list.  I have been so lonely in this depression for so long.  It's nice to know someone is thinking of me finally.  I really was sort of skeptical when I first started on this message board, but it is such a tremendous help to know there are people out there who care and UNDERSTAND.  It was so tiring to think I was fighting this alone.  I still have my suicidal thoughts, but because of yall I have made it another night.  I just wish I knew how to get rid of these thoughts.  I can't even remember the last time I was happy.  I just keep crying and praying to God that He will be merciful to me and let me die.
 
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May 2, 2006, 6:53 am PDT

We Care

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Hi...what's you story...I haven't been on my computer in a while, but I promise there are lots of people here that care. I do!!!! Please tell me your story. Feel free to email me too! 

  

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I've found the people here really do care and it's the first time I've really felt understood.  I know  I feel I must do everything wrong because it seems like the people I love  don't want to be bothered with me.  Everyone thinks I'm so happy-go-lucky and funny, that they don't take me seriously when I try to tell them I need them.  They always seem too busy or uninterested to really listen to me.  They only want to be around when I'm putting on my fake face.  So many people have let me down, that  I think it's all my fault.  It does hurt when you feel so alone.  I love the Lord, and I know the Lord loves me, but there are many times I ask  Why?  Why do I have to suffer from such depression and why can't I be normal and have normal emotions.  It seems like everyone else can be so uplifting and gain control over this, but me.  Funny, how one can be so positive toward someone else, but not themselves.  I hope this message board will help you as much as it helps me.  Hope to talk again 

 
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May 2, 2006, 1:31 pm PDT

Thanks!

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I think the trick is to begin treating ourselves as nice as we treat others. It IS amazing when you begin doing things you have always wanted to do you begin seeing you are important too. I know when I used to be in "that's okay" mode if you remember RESOLVE carpet cleaner commercial. I was doing exactly what Dr. Phil said we do...teaching others that crossing my boundaries and taking advantage of me was okay. I really didn't feel that way and it hurt yet I kept that HAPPY FACE on...as you say. So, today, go out of your way for yourself. What would you do to celebrate a friend's birthday... get as excited about your life. Life is mostly habit and Dr. Phil said lots of us learned giving is better than receiving and became selfless in the process which was why he wrote SELF MATTERS. Somewhere along the line we lost where our passion was and we have to do some soul searching to find that authentic self yet it is still there. Ironically, I was going to write a book about not being irresponsibly selfless yet when I saw Dr. Phil's well SELF MATTERS sounds better and he's the expert. Such a relief to see Dr. Phil giving the world Emotional Education around the world and, hopefully, one day there will be Emotional and Lifeskill Education K-12 so so many of us are not playing catch up or waiting on other's to catch up with us. You are not alone and why the self-help book industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. You see all of here who feel your pain in some way or fashion. Hold onto us as you pull yourself back up. All Dr. Phil's books are at the library and if that feels overwhelming the key points are in links below that you can go to. Just copy and paste link to search bar or in address bar and click enter. SELF MATTERS includes YOU too. DR. PHIL QUOTE: "You're the one who talks to you, all day, ever day. Characterize messages you send yourself by a rational and productive optimism." like you would to cheer up a best friend. Then...be your best friend. I'm learning too...one more positive thought at a time. Watching Joel Osteen helps cheer me on and he is on at 8 pm I think tonight on DayStar (whatever channel that is on where you live)... Channel 2 here in DFW area. Then he comes on at 7 pm Sunday and 8 pm Friday. All times Central times. T-3 days until Cinco de Mayo and your BIRTHDAY!!!! My birthday wish for you is happiness and having your smile back asap. (((HUGs and PRAYERs))) SEA
Synopsis on ALL of Dr. Phil's books can be found searching by title in ABOVE search box (TOP RIGHT) or visiting links below:

TEN LIFE LAWS: drphil.com/articles/article/44

SELF MATTERS (AUTHENTIC SELF): www.drphil.com/articles/article/73

RELATIONSHIP RESCUE (IT STARTS WITH YOU): drphil.com/articles/article/368

UWLC SEVEN KEYS: drphil.com/articles/article/472

ULTIMATE WEIGHT LOSS CHALLENGE RECIPES: drphil.com/shows/show/337

FAMILY FIRST (FIVE FACTORS FOR A PHENOMENAL FAMILY): drphil.com/articles/article/195

LOVE SMART: drphil.com/articles/article/504
I live in Houston, so Lakewood Church is right here. I enjoy listening to Joel Olsteen and my nephew heads one of the youth groups there. I guess when you have heard all your life negative things, it's hard to think of anything positive about oneself. I know I am a very compassionate, forgiving and loving person, but it seems the negatives outweigh the positive.  And I hate that I somehow always sound and feel so down and negative. My mother played such favorites with us.  Even when she died, she was so prejudicial toward me in her will.  It wasn't the money, but the thought that she thought so little of me.  I was by her side every step of the way during her illness, but she never wanted me there, just my other sister. It's hard to feel loveable when you feel your own mother didn't love you.  I'm gonna keep trying to pull myself up, but it seems I just keep slipping back down! I don't trust my feelings with anyone anymore.  I keep thinking they must be right about me and I must not be worth loving.  I am so ready to have my life over,  but I guess there is some hope somewhere deep in my heart.  I'm just scared.
 
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May 2, 2006, 1:39 pm PDT

You are not alone!

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Yes,you should totally keep living.I know life is hard but killing yourself or wanting to die is so not going to make it better.If ya need to talk to someone talk to someone ya trust or if ya do then just pray.Prayer always works.Trust i've been through the same thing i always thought life was not worth living.So,i know how ya feel.Hope,this works. Bounce 





It's amazing how much we can identify with each other.  I laughed at that smiling face and realized there are good time still to be had, but I'm not there yet.  Maybe it would just be helpful to talk to someone who asks the same questions you do.  There is some kind of healing knowing you are not alone in your suicidal thoughts or your struggle.  Maybe be we struggle along together with a little help from our friends on this message board.  I'll pray for you and you can pray for me.  Maybe a miracle will happen and we can help pull each other out of this!  HUGS!!!!
 

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