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January 23, 2007, 9:10 pm PST

01/19 Young Moms Ask the Experts

Quote From: julie1418

There is a big difference between offering opinion (stated in the form of an opinion!) and sharing experiences ....and demanding that everyone get educated about what "I feel passionate about" or making blanket statements about what is needed ("we need to back to what is natural")

 

There are people who I would gladly ask advice of because I will get a thoughtful, rational response, along with the support to make my own decision.....then there are people who need everyone to believe what THEY believe and nothing else will do.

 

After my very first play class with my first child, I went to lunch with two other mothers. They were on either side of the aisle. One was strictly bottle/formula...strict schedules...etc.  The other was all about breastfeeding, attachment parenting, organic everything. Guess what? They were really exactly alike. They were both obnoxious and overbearing....driven to validate their own choices by making everyone get on board. I was still too sleep deprived to get all fired up about it...but, Holy Cow! Shoving opinions and judgments down someone's throat is NOT supportive or helpful.

That is all your doings Julie, I have not once demanded anything of anybody.  I have not even typed the word "demand".  Who am I anyway, the Mom of all these people or what???  Are you worried that everyone will start to believe me?  No, they won't but what I say might just make a few of them seek answers and have questions where prior to my *opinions* they may not have.

 

How did your friends *make* everyone get on board?  Well, I'm not asking for that kind of power but thanks for thinking that I actually have it!

 

There is a big difference in getting someone to validate my choices and offering my opinion, I don't need validation.  I DO get fired up about things because the state of our healthcare is pathetic and the lack of support and education regarding breastfeeding is truly lacking among professionals in the healthcare industry.  YET young Moms think that the pediatrician is God sometimes and cannot fathom that they may not know EVERYTHING about a baby.  Doctors are human, some are making mistakes left and right, they are not learning about new findinds, they are not helping Moms by telling them to formula feed, they should know better - they should be able to discuss feeding options, but they don't because they don't know about them.  Does this not bother anyone else?  It bothers me and it makes me very angry.  I am sharing that anger on this board so that maybe, just maybe Moms will begin to self-educate so they will know what to ask the doctor,  what to tell the doctor,  and why they need to ask more questions at the visit.

 
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January 23, 2007, 9:29 pm PST

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Quote From: nannypam

You sound like you are my age. I did the same thing and didn't kill one of the 3. Now everything we were 'taught' seems to be wrong but these young parents are stressing over a lot of stuff we didn't.

Can your opinion be swayed?  Do you think that new findings should be ignored?  Should the research stop because there's nothing else to learn about the human body?  We've come a long way since the 60's - haven't we?  My mother survived on canned milk and corn syrup when she was a baby...now we know that canned milk and/or cows milk is bad for the baby's digestive system.   

 

This generation probably stresses more because they know more, they have access to more information.  I think it's a good thing to have all this at our fingertips but we have to decide which advice we take - that is the stressful part.

 

 
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January 23, 2007, 9:51 pm PST

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Quote From: purplepenny

Well, my Dr does learn about new "findinds"...maybe you just have a really crappy Dr.


I have been through many pediatric doctors.  One out of 5 told me that he does not have time to do research or go to seminars.  One does have the time, he's my favorite but we never get to see him because he's never in the office.  He can afford to be off work, most cannot.   I just found a new one who I think I will like.  She is hated by most new patients so I didn't bother to go to her until I found out the reason why many Moms do not like her.  It's because the Mom goes into the office and demands a prescription no matter what.  She does not write prescriptions unless it is absolutely necessary.  Some doctors write an antibiotic for any ear infection, be it middle, inner, outer and no matter how severe...she will not.  I totally agree with that because I think that the human body is designed to fight ailments on it's own and we need to allow that to take place.  Now - not all ear infections should go without antibiotics, I am not saying that.  But in my experience, the slightest infection in the ear will lead to a prescription.  The very FIRST anti-biotic that my youngest was prescribed was the new anti-biotic, I can't remember what it's called.  I went back to the office and requested the pink stuff (amoxicillin, I think) because I knew that what I was given was very strong.  WHY do doctors give that instead of the old one???  It turned me off right away so I found a new doctor.  My daughter had pneumonia (sp?) so I agreed that the drug was needed - we just didn't need the strong one when it was her first anti-biotic EVER.  So often, the antibiotics are not necessary but the doctors have liability to worry over so they prescribe it right away.  (I know this because I have friends who are doctors.)  I have many stories to tell about doctors decisions being wrong, it's not just pediatric doctors.  I have seen great harm done and it has a lot to do with why I try to share my opinions with others.  I don't force my opinion, that is impossible.  I just think that if we spread our own thoughts and experiences then others may just change their thinking - or not - nobody can force another adult to believe anything they don't want to.  If I'm sarcastic or being a smartypants, then it's because I've just read something that makes me angry.  I consider that a good debate is good for all parties involved, even the smartypants might learn a thing or two!!!
 
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January 24, 2007, 3:13 pm PST

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Im writing because I think the topic circumcision needs to be addressed.  Im an American girl...married to an Englishman...we live in America.  Im pregnant with our second child (our first child is a girl).  Were not going to find out the sex of the baby (however, the Chinese chart says, boy...for some reason its never been wrong for me, my friends & family).  If I do have a boy, we have to answer the question...Do we have our son circumcised?  (My husband is NOT circumcised.)    Ive talked to A LOT of Doctors, through out America, about this procedure and they ALL say Theres NO REASON why boys should be circumcised today.  Its barbaric!  60% of Americans are circumcised (thought it would be higher)...and it's only going down.  The only people that do it are:  America , Jewish & Muslim.  They, also, said that it use to be done for health reasons...it's all been disproven.  And the only reason why its done today is so the son matches the father. That's a very painful procedure for a little baby to endure to look like his Daddy.  I think this is one of those subjects no one likes to talk about.  If I was married to an American, I wouldnt even think twice about doing it...I would have him circumcised.  But I'm not...so I have to do some research so we can make the best decision for our family.  My husband does NOT want to do it.  However, he said I have the "final say".  The only reason why I want to...is that I dont want our son to be made fun of in Jr High and/or High School (but everything I'm hearing and reading is making me believe that's not a good enough reason anymore).  What Doctors have been telling me about this procedure is that...baby boys are born with the foreskin for a reason.  It acts like the eyelid does to the eye...it protects.  The foreskin is not suppose to be pulled back for a couple years...so this procedure, for adults to understand, is like peeling back a fingernail.  It's VERY PAINFUL!!  So why are we doing this to our baby boys..in 2007...in America???  Maybe parents need to start going in and being with their baby boy during this procedure...maybe that would get everyones attention.  I don't know...just don't like what I'm reading and hearing from Doctors about circumcision...it's really scary!!!      Just wish this subject would get some attention.  Feeling lost.  If you have any advice, I would really appreciate it.   Thank you for your time!

I agree.  You must consider that it IS on the decline in this country because many Moms are finding out exactly what you have.  I think the practice is done to some babies because the option to NOT do it is never even suggested by the medical professionals.  Why WOULD the doctor suggest it, the procedure brings more money to the hospital?

 

You said yourself that you didn't want to put the baby in so much pain - just so he looks like his Daddy. Well, why would you do it to make him look like the other kids?  Consider that the other kids may not ALL be circumcised.  Many Moms for over a decade now have opted out of the procedure because they too have done their research.

 

Our middle child was a boy, born in 1999 - even back then, I had done enough research to know that I would NOT be putting my baby through that procedure because there was no need to.  I'm not the only one, so just know that by the time your baby gets to high or jr high, he will be just like many kids and unlike many too - but not the oddball.

 

We have one son who is and my husband is but that is not a good enough reason to do it to our youngest.  We didn't clip our dogs' ears or tails either.  They live outside and I don't think the other dogs notice, lol.

 

And before anyone freaks out that our dogs are not allowed in the house...just know - we live in the country, they have doghouses for the mild weather and heated buildings for when it's cold.  They are happy and well-adjusted in my opinion - not on any anti-depressants or anything, lol.

 

 
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January 24, 2007, 6:08 pm PST

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Quote From: eribeck

 I think she means that hospital procedures are too rigid - that maybe they *should* allow mothers to stay with preemies as much as they like, complete with skin-to-skin contact.  I don't know all of your situation or how severe it was - but a lot of hospitals just have rules that they have no reason for.  Where I gave birth, they have a policy that they take all healthy babies from the moms an hour after birth and keep them in the nursery "for monitoring."  When asked why, they said it was because they would bathe the baby and then had to make sure it could maintain normal body temp.  How much sense does that make???  So I had my pediatrician sign a request that the baby not go to the nursery.  And they listened.  Some hospitals would've put up more of a fight, though... so all this to say that some of us think that hospitals should try to allow moms to be with their babies more than they do.

Thanks for helping.  I think the OP said that the hospital gave the baby formula and I believe she said that she was pumping.  It just saddens me that the hospital didn't consider other options - there are other options, but some (many) doctors and  nurses don't know about them.  There is even a device to help preemies nurse because their mouths are so tiny that they cannot properly latch (if latch at all).  Giving a very young baby a fake nipple creates all kinds of problems.

 

I think NICU's are getting better these days about insuring the Mom/Child bond early on since they discovered how important the human touch is to the healing process.

 

I totally understand about not letting the baby go to the nursery.  When our second was born they bathed him right in my room - same room I delivered in.  They never even tried to take him out of my room.  With my daughter, it was all different but I had a birth plan that plainly stated the baby was to stay with Mom or Dad at all times.  They bathed him in another room, but my son and my inlaws watched through the glass - that still did not stop them from coming in and trying to take her constantly!  My husband lined up all the nurses at shift-change and threatened to sue the hospital if they took her while I was sleeping.  After that, they just kept harassing me about putting her in the bassinet instead of in the bed with me...oh they watched me like a hawk, they just KNEW that I would roll over and kill her in my sleep.  They kept telling me that I would sleep much better if I let them take her for a while.  No, I would not sleep better, and I knew that - but convincing them was another story - some folks just don't get it!

 
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January 25, 2007, 10:48 am PST

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Quote From: gwarrior6

Benefits of bf have been out a while.  They're not necessarily "new'(from the mid to late 90s).  That's why i question it.  Cow's milk isn't "bad" for the digestive system, but it can provoke allergies to the protein in cows milk.  If it was "bad", your mother would never have survived.  I don't think you know what to sort thru in all this info.

Okay, one more post...just because I'm eating lunch and happen to be reading.

 

Cows milk is very very very bad on a baby's digestive system.  Do your research before deciding that what's good for a 30 yr old is good for a 3 day old.

 
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January 25, 2007, 11:49 am PST

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Quote From: kobbers

My 3month and 3 day grandson died Dec. 19, 2006.  We buried him on Dec. 22, 2006.  For Christmas Eve we the whole family (33 of us) Went to Kody's gravsite just up the hill from our house and all lite candles and everyone said something that they would remember about Kody.  We could see the lite of the candels from our house.  This is how we spent our christmas this year.   My questions is why in this day and age that they can't find and answer for SIDS.  I hope Dr. Phil will have a show about Sids and How it effects the family.   Kody soar with the angels.   My angel baby Kody Lane CObb

Okay, one more, I promise.  I'm still trying to find the post with the research, I forgot about it and I really want to read the information given....I LOVE to learn anything!

 

I wanted to reply to this and say how sorry I am to hear about your grandson.  My best friend lost her son in 1991 at the same age.  He was NOT in a bed, he was in the babysitters arms (according to her, a preacher's wife).  She was rocking him and noticed his skin color, took him down off her shoulder and he wasn't breathing.  She was CPR trained but it didn't work, the ambulance arrived soon and tried some more but he was gone.  It's so sad, I know.

 

I wanted to reply to this:

 

<<<My questions is why in this day and age that they can't find and answer for SIDS.>>> 

 

I often help my friends daughter very often with her college research work.  She was studying to get her masters in Child Psychology or something like that, I can't remember - she's since changed.  Anyway, my first thought after reading your post was "because they are too busy researching viagra - that's why".  All sarcasm aside though, look into what is being researched and what is getting funded and why.  They are researching SIDS but only to the extend that the funding allows.  Some scientist are researching breast implants and sex enhancers because those subjects were funded.  We do research on drugs used to cure or prevent a disease instead of researching the disease itself.  It's mostly all political.  It makes me sooooooo angry!!! 

 

Anyway, just wanted to share my thoughts.

 

 

 

 

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