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June 27, 2006, 12:03 am PDT

My God....that IS ironic!

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When I first caught this episode earlier this year I wanted to mangle the guy and shake some sense into the wife. 

Now guess what..yup...2 weeks ago right before my 19th wedding anniversary hubby says he has a mistress, he plans to keep her and wants to keep me as well.  I couldn't believe it!!!!  And today I noticed that this episode repeated..I recorded it to watch it again because I know I will be watching it from a different place this time.  Strange how life changes so quickly.  Yes he is still living with me.  Now before you all attack me I would divorce him in a heartbeat but I found out how much lawyers want up front!!!  OMG!  We do have 4 kids and I do have health issues of my own.  So for now I am stuck.  But there isn't anymore fighting.  I am beyond caring what he does anymore.  I am just moving forward and trying to protect myself and my kids.  And slowly saving money so I can get a lawyer and get his buns out of my house. 

"There by the grace of God".....anything can happen to any of us at any time is what I think.  

  

This is truly a tough one.  

  

I do not judge you and I usually tend to judge situations right off the bat because all one has to do is hold them up to the light of Scriptures like holding up the old "Dance Cards" to the light to see if the punch outs matched!  Your case has several "qualifiers"!  Your health issues, for one.  I, too, have those to consider, so I understand bigtime.  

  

Your kids and their ages matter as well.  It is easy to just scream, "Kick all bastards to the curb" but I don't do that.  And neither does Dr. Phil...he usually mentions...."Don't replace YOUR judgment with my judgment."  He just tends to not let someone get all walked on without at least a separation.  Are you SAFE??  How fast can you save for the bloodsucker attorneys?  Can things be worked out FASTER?!  (I was shocked @ how costly divorce was and how COLD attorneys were when I first looked into divorce some years ago.  Being an ex-legal secretary, I did it MYSELF!!!  We had assets, 2 kids and the courts were so stupid, they just rubber-stamped financial figures I had pulled out of you-know-where.  I basically gave that bastard EVERYTHING just to get out alive. My story would stand people's hair on end.  Man, do I know about courts so it gives me great compassion for you and others.  You know what they say................"INVOLVE AN ATTORNEY AND YOUR TROUBLES DOUBLE.")   Stay safe, sweetie and my very best to you and yours.  Pray! 

 
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June 27, 2006, 12:10 am PDT

One of the reasons Muslims are crazy!

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At the end of my fifth grade school year, I went to live with my dad, his wife, ex-wife and my brothers and sisters.  But, I can remember that lifestyle as far back as Kindergarten.  Charles you are DEAD WRONG!!  This lifestyle doesn't only happen in other countries, it happens right here in the USA.  What makes him think we are so different, he lives in the USA and he wants to live with two women under one roof.  I can remember being scared, embarrassed and sad all of the time.  This lifestyle Charles wants to introduce his boys to is unfair and very selfish.  As a teen I couldn't have friends over because of the living situation.  However, I do remember on one occassion a girlfriend from school who lived right up the road was walking past my house, stopped to say hello as my dad pulled into the driveway from work.  My step-mom and the other woman walked out, followed by my brothers and sisters and we all said, "Hi daddy."  My girlfriend looked at me, I gave her a look of please don't ask me any questions and she didn't.  The next day at school, she had a hundred questions.  It was very embarrassing trying to explain our living arrangements to her and of course she didn't understand it, but neither did I.  Charles is only thinking of himself.  I don't know of any two women who can live in the same house with one man and never feel any resentment, hurt or jealousy towards the other two.  There was a lot of jealousy, arguments, physical abuse, screaming and hollering in our house, it was a nightmare.  Nothing good, except for his sexual satisfaction, can come from the lifestyle he wants his family to accept!  Tracy deserves better, a true committment, loyalty, respect, love and happiness.  My step-mother never remarried or even dated after my dad moved out to be with wife number 4.  She deserved to have someone love her, respect her and treat her with dignity.  Tracy, please don't make that mistake.  

Just kidding.  (Muslims have up to four wives and I can imagine all the screaming, sadness and mayhem in THEIR homes just for his sexual pleasure and Allah's gain.  Sounds NUTS to me) 

  

However, you make many valid points. 

  

It is also one of the reasons I cannot stand Charles and took so much flak from him today with him calling me a "venomous woman"....poor Charles   :O(      always the victim instead of the rotten victimizer he REALLY IS.  Tracy is the one who deserves the credit on this board, not him. 

  

 
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June 27, 2006, 12:16 am PDT

Why?

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from a personal point of view, I am involved with a man and he is engaged. At no time has our relationship been secret. We met and the whole relationship was completely three way. I was involved with both of them. Now, it stands that he and I are still very close and get closer all the time. He is the father of my baby boy. His fiance and I are friends and though she and I are no longer involved, we all remain in the same house. My partners son, who is 9, is fine with all of this and finds it all perfectly natural. There is alot of love in this house. My son has two parents who love him immensely. My parnters son always has someone home with him and none of us see any reason to change this life.  

So with perfect open honesty, why should it be wrong for him to have two women? There are men we know who really want to know his secret. The secret is to have no secrets. 

"Why should it be wrong to have TWO women?"  I'll tell ya why.  

   

Because the Lord says it is wrong, that's why.  

   

It is meant to work intimately with one man and one woman.  You act so smug and smart.  Charles should have called you first!  Dr. Phil should let you hold seminars on enlightening America.  It's not like we haven't lost our moral compass enough, let's let folks like you give us the FINAL FLUSH!  

   

One man and one woman....best thing in the world.  Sweetest, most intimate thing there is.  Throw another human being into the mix and you mess it all up, I don't care what YOU say.    

 
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June 27, 2006, 12:28 am PDT

You go, girl (EOM)

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All you CHEATERS, "OTHER WOMEN/MEN", HOME-WRECKERS, SWINGERS...you all DESERVE whatever CRAP in life that comes your way!  You have little, if any, regard or compassion for nobody but yourselves and your only goal in life is self-gratification, no matter what the cost or consequences!  Ultimately, you'll NEVER be truly happy or "Authentic", as Dr. Phil would say. 

 

So...be my guest and accuse me for being "judgmental" by opening up your perverted lives publically on this (or any other) Message Board, you leave yourselves vulnerable to rightful scrutiny by others; after all, isn't this another ploy for of attention you're seeking?  I, at least, can sleep nights knowing I NEVER willfully hurt a loved ones' feelings or destroyed their lives with betrayal. 

 

Lucy B. 

 
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June 27, 2006, 12:34 am PDT

I tried to tell them that!

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I watched Charlie and saw my ex sooooooooooooo clearly!!  I would be willing to bet that Charlie's "alternative lifestyle" demands are just the tip of the iceberg!  He displayed that "it's not my fault", "I'm really a good guy", "I can justify everything that I do" attitude that I saw first hand for 18 years.  Don't walk out ... run as fast as you can, it will never change!  Get a copy of the book The Sociopath Next Door by Dr. Martha Stout and I will wager you will see a lot more of Charlie in the pages of that book.  

   

You deserve SO MUCH BETTER than Charlie!!!  

I said it all day..... 

  

And what did I get?  Chuckie Doll telling me I was "venomous"....awwww, bummer. 

  

I clicked the dude.  I refuse to speak to the ....well....refuse.  By his choice, he has reduced himself to human refuse in my book.  You are so right....his behavior is absolutely sociopathic with little to no hope for change and I totally believe PEOPLE CAN AND DO CHANGE.  (Look at St. Paul in the Scriptures....went from killing Christians to being one!)  Time will tell. 

 
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June 30, 2006, 4:04 pm PDT

I cried just watching Joani....

I watched that show with my hands soon over my face with me watching through my fingers.  I started crying and was soon almost sobbing.  I was shocked at Joani's boldness.  That demon almost crawled right out of her onto the screen!  What a grip!!  

  

THIRTY YEAR ADDICTION?!  Unreal.  And the rest of the program was just as gripping.  "There but for the grace of God go I"....but now I see family members going through this and denial of some other members.  What a wake up call time, even for me.  I call one member "The Puppet Master" because even though there is fresh evidence of use all he has to do is deny it and everyone believes him!  Drug test companies have spent MILLIONS to make sure those test kits are fail-proof, haven't they?  Who am I to believe?? (Not 1 but 2 brand spanking new pieces of evidence of using again.)  

  

I am going to stand strong and let the words ring in my ears...."If you are an addict, you are also by default also-A LIAR."  

  

Any thoughts? 

  

PS....thank you to the facility in Florida!  I thought my heart would pop when news of the "waiving the fees" was announced.  Makes the heart just swell!  Good people out there.  :O)  

  

  

 
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November 5, 2006, 11:07 pm PST

CPS and other tragedies....

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I would have to agree with what was written above.  I have a niece who lives in my care finally.  You see my sister's children were all being abused for years.  My mom and I tried hard for many years to get these children out of their situation by reporting the abuse to CPS.  They would go into the home check that the living room was clean and make more visits only to say we are closing the case.  Only for someone else to turn them.  Now that sis and the biological father have split, neither of them have any of the children.  The thing that is really making me angry right now is getting the police department and the district attorney's office to actually do something about the abuse.  So far nobody has ever had to answer for any of the abuse.  Of course sis denies she was ever involved.  Her children have the memories to prove it though, as much as she denies it.  Where is justice for these kids?  All of them who are not protected.  I feel my niece and nephews were not only victimized by the perpetrators, but they have been victimized repeatedly by the system also.  No one here in this county seems to do their job!

I agree.  I know of some of this through first hand knowledge and then plain COMMON SENSE.  If you have a gabillion cases, give or take a few....it is IMPOSSIBLE to do a good job on all the casework. 

 

Also, I was stunned that Dr. Phil was so seemingly capable of talking out of both sides of his mouth:  "If a child tells me 'Someone touched my peepee', WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO?"  (Almost hollering at the person....the man)  THEN.........................he turns around and interrogates the mom like she is just pulling this stuff out of her....ear.  Come on!

 

I do not think that mom did ONE THING WRONG.  No, I do not think she "feeds the drama, power, emotions of the child" at all.  The kid feels what she feels, says what she thinks, acts like she acts..........Dr. Phil....it is what it IS.

 

If the guy is snarling at his ex, "KISS MY ASS"....(it dawned on me that he is saying it because HE IS/WAS CLEARED OF ALL WRONG-DOING BY THE POLYGRAPH!).....if he is cleared, he's cleared.  The little girl can also misrepresent "her peepee"....ANYONE CHANGING DIAPERS KNOWS YOU HAVE TO CLEAN ALL OF THAT AREA AND THAT IS WHY I AM AGAINST  M E N  CHANGING LITTLE GIRLS' DIAPERS.  Just on principle.  I don't like it, never have, never will.  (The little girl is saying he touched her peepee and she is telling the TRUTH, because HE TOUCHED HER PEEPEE WHEN HE CHANGED HER DIAPER, forcryinoutloud!  Why didn't Dr. Phil think or consider that THIS might be the case???)

 

And don't anyone tell me to get my mind out of the gutter because it isn't there.  I just don't think that is proper.  Same DOES NOT GO for a mom changing a baby boy.  Like I said...

 
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November 5, 2006, 11:14 pm PST

11/03 Shocking Accusations

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I for one am totaly convinced that Jeremy Molested 3 year old Kaylee!! I am sure I am not alone. Fo someone to have to sit and THINK ABOUT whether or not they have touched there child inappropriatly is obsurd!! He thinks there may have been cake on the side of his mouth that she licked off?? Come on, how dumb does this man think everyone is? That still doesnt explain how his tounge was seen in her mouth! Oh, I guess it accidently SLIPPED!!  I am sorry, but if my childs father had not seen my daughter since she was 3 months old, and never changed a diaper before, theres is no way he would offer to do it then. Why would he lock the door even if he was changing her diaper. He never asked where the diapers were, so how is it that after this long of not being around he knew exactly where they were? Why was she red? WHY did she have a tear on her labia?? I am not convinced it was from being a rowdy kid. My daughter is as wild as tey come, and never ever has that happened to her!! But the all time pricless moment that stuck the fork in him to say he was done, was when he said something about if he had done anything in his sleep, sleep walking, he guessed that would come out to on the lie detecter test! If that isnt a submission for guilt I dont know what is! He was trying to cover his tracks ahead of time!! This Outrages me! I can not post what I think should be done with this man, well, not a man, a sick sick sick individual! Anyone else feel the same??

I totally disagree.

 

If he ever changed her diaper (AND HE DID)...in order to be thorough, especially in the case of wet feces or diarrhea, then he would have to clean all areas of her genital area and the little girl is, indeed, telling the truth as she sees it....He "did" touch her peepee but in fact, the context makes him also a truth-teller....there was nothing inappropriate ABOUT IT.  He may have been thinking in that sense and also, he was sOOOO UNDER THE MICROSCOPE, he may have wanted to weigh every word. 

 

I run my mouth without thinking and don't know of ANYONE who "thinks before they speak."   At least not at the time of speaking.......IOW, they may THINK ABOUT THE ANSWER while daydreaming, thinking, polishing the silver, etc...just I don't know ANYONE who takes alot of time in answering questions, thought bubbles galore, looking up and going "hhmmmm"....we all pretty much just blab.  Don't you?  Do you sit there AND RUMINATE???!

 
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November 5, 2006, 11:18 pm PST

"Deserves" him??

Oh, come on!  NO woman deserves that man.

 

And no one is more in love with him than HIM.

 

Narcissistic Personality Disorder, if ya ask me.

 
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November 5, 2006, 11:21 pm PST

The times.........

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I cannot wait to see this. From the previews Dr. Phil looked so angry, rightfully so! How can people try to scam other innocent people for their own personal gain!??! Bless these people who have been scammed, and punish the scammers in the most harmful way. I guess we will see what happens..

....desperate times makes desperate people.  Yes, it is sick.  THEY make the wrong choices, regardless of the times, though.  They would do it ANYWAY.  Haven't you heard people say to criminals...."You could have MADE this money in a legal way and avoided the slammer!"?

 

They probably put a lot of time and effort into it and even if they had flipped burgers at McD's they would at least be making HONEST MONEY.

 

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