Messages By: skbruning

This shocking, stunning, sickening true story is enough to make ANYONE scream and shout, tear their clothes into pieces and throw dirt and dust into the air"!  This is what Jews used to do when in agony!

I don't blame them one bit and this is what I felt like doing as I watched this nightmare unfold.  IT'S MADDENING!!!

Those poor, poor little children. 

I am amazed that this young woman, so closely related to Warren Jeff's, is doing half as good as she is doing. 

GOD BLESS YOU ALL in that hellish compound.  May God open your eyes.

 (And there really IS a God and He is so different than anything they've experienced.  And yet, because of what they have experienced, they may now never know the REAL God.  Like this young woman, they'll perhaps just close the door shut.  Tight.)  So sad.  :O(

This man is looking for his next victim.

Look at his face during the most intense times of the confrontation and bring in the world's foremost body language experts and they will tell you....he is guilty.

He's looking for his next victims and that is why he "wants to work with children."

The husband/stepdad needs to put this man in jail with indictments, a jury trial and as a witness and then he needs to get his wife and stepson all the counseling in the world....

GOD bless them both.  All.

Look....if the age difference is fairly reasonable then it is no big thing.

However, in the trailer all it pretty much talked about was the word "sex".  Listen closely and count!  I did.

This is not about a woman genuinely falling in love with a younger man.  I can think of several real life examples:  Randy Travis married his considerably older manager many years ago and it is true love of the deepest sort.

Sex, sex, sex ................and money.  Whoremongering.

"Oh, that's judgmental and it IS what IT IS", I can imagine some saying, perhaps even Dr. Phil.

Yeah...it IS what it is and what it is is --WHOREMONGERING!  Sex for money, money for sex. 

It's disgusting, embarrassing, wicked, worldly, "the wages of sin is DEATH", etc.  Yuck.

Young men exchanging their bodies for filthy money.  DISgusting!

When women do it, it's disgusting; when men do it, even moreso because they are supposed to be.... SUPPOSED to be leaders in our world, our communities, our homes.  It hurts us all.

God must be about to either judge us or apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah!  Disgusting. 

I have not been this angry in a very long time.

That woman is not guilty and anyone listening to her and looking closely at the evidence should sense that THESE BOYS have all chosen to lie about her.

I believe that she is as innocent as can be, is as pure as the driven snow, and that those boys need to be punished SEVERELY. 

She also has the right to fight back, prosecuting all concerned to the fullest extent of the law.

PLEASE, DR. PHIL......................PUT A LINK HERE ON YOUR SITE FOR SUPPORTERS OF JOELLE OGLETREE TO SEND HER CONTRIBUTIONS IF WE WISH.  As it is I will have to hunt her down myself and  I am sending her a $100 check today.  (Wish it had about 6 ZEROES behind it, too!)

(Well, glory hallelujah....Dr. Phil has just read the results of the lie detector test and it shows that boy to be LYING.  "Practicing deception"....such a nice way of saying the same thing. 

I also find Joelle's analysis after the test to be SPOT ON.  SHE has a better grip on things than even Dr. Phil.)

CONGRATULATIONS, JOELLE!.....MY CHECK SHOULD GET TO YOU WITHIN THE WEEK AND I CAN ONLY HOPE AND PRAY MANY, MANY, MANY OTHERS JOIN ME IN SENDING YOU MONEY.  You've been through HELL for ................nothing. 

I am VERY angry on your behalf.  You are a classy, eloquent, wonderful woman and your children and family should not have been put through this.  Lastly, I shall write Glen Rose High School and ask them, "HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MINDS?!" 

God bless you & yours, Joelle.  ;O)

I remarried my ex approx 5 yrs ago and we both agree it was a HUGE mistake.

However, having said that, we are making the best of it ala Dr. P's statement, "Sometimes you make the right decision, sometimes you make the decision right."

It has been a ton of hell.  A ton of fun?  Not so much!

I knew we might end right back up where we were before the divorce and that this was a chance to "do the ending differently this time."

I would not drag our now grown children through another divorce again for anything in this world and it doesn't matter if they are grown or not.  They have suffered enough.

We treat each civil (most of the time), and it is what it is.

True....I feel like I am shrivelling away and will most likely never experience real love but I should have thought about that before I remarried him.

I believe in grandma's old saying, "You made your bed, now lay in it!"

I was glad to see your point.  Yes, Paul is a narcissist.

And you are right.....these guys lie as though just THEM SAYING IT makes it so.

I know exactly what you are talking about.  I was forced to learn about NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and yes, it is real, it helps to slap a label on clearly definable patterns of behavior and yes, I was so relieved to finally understand what I had been wrestling with for 25 LONG years.

Good point.

  Since the young woman has this self-fulfilling prophecy going on, the husband's concerns, especially about the children seeing this at some point, win out.  She is afraid a man can't be trusted and will eventually leave her as all men in the past have been untrustworthy, she can't trust marriage, etc.

She is driving him away and fulfilling this endgame BY SETTING HERSELF UP in the first place!!

She needs to stop doing what she is doing and go one step over without destroying this family with her "nutz factor", I'll call it.  (Some people feel VERY STRONG about homosexuality/sodomy and she needs to not bring this in)  The solution?  GO BE A CLOWN FOR A PERIOD OF 6 MONTHS and see if that doesn't transition her over and into something better.  She can put just as much glop on her face as she wants and even work PT as a clown.  Or just go ahead and play dress up but cut the concomitant surroundings out of the equation.)

She needs to STOP this crap as it will eventually expose her growing children to people who do very controversial activities and she is making her husband and herself miserable.

She agreed to stop it; STOP IT!

It is insanity not only on the side of the criminal it is now also insanity on the part of the rest of us.  Consider this:  If God Himself could look down and pick the best 911 dispatcher in the world and put him or her on this call, would it really have helped Olidia make it those last 10-12 feet to help???

If THE BEST handled this call....

It is utter insanity when, considering the breaking down of the 2nd Amendment of these United States....the right....THE RIGHT to bear arms and the breakdown of society in general, we expect others to do the miraculous in protecting us. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. 

As bad as it is getting out there, we cannot place the responsibility of protecting each and every one of us on 911 or the police departments or anyone else for that matter.  It is the responsibility of ....each and every one of us.

Had she been armed she could have shot him before he shot her.  In a God-given right to self-defense.

Treasure this as you treasure your life:

"The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights protecting the pre-existing individual right to "keep and bear arms" (i.e. to "possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation").[1] Codification of the right to keep and bear arms into the Bill of Rights was influenced by a fear that the federal government would disarm the people in order to impose rule through a standing army or select militia,[2] since history had shown taking away the people's arms and making it an offense for people to keep them was the way tyrants eliminated resistance to suppression of political opponents.[3] Self-defense is a central component of the right enumerated in the amendment.[4]

Before District of Columbia v. Heller (June 26, 2008), the Supreme Court had not directly addressed the amendment, or had only done so in limited or ambiguous terms,[5] and because the amendment contains a prefatory "....for more go to Wikipediadotcom

This very thing happened to me some years ago when I was divorced.  Even with joint custody, he turned them against me like I never dreamed possible.  It was always the three of us....me and the kids together all day every day.  "Honey, baby, darling, sugar, sweetie, Christian homeschooled kids"  and me. 

I never wanted it to be just us-the kids and I- and the kids cried more times than I could ever count from being rejected by him.  He had tons of time to pull the crabcrass in the front yard but when they wanted to do something with him, it was "No" and they would come to me with hot, angry tears.  Then to compensate, I would do it instead even though I was understandably exhausted from so much time with them already myself.

Zoom ahead almost ten years....oh, BTW, I have coined another term for these boards and see if they don't find enormous resonance!  "Parental Annihilation Syndrome"....what happened to me.  It is the next rotgut stage beyond the usual Parent Alienation Syndrome".  MEGA-alienation.....anyway, my sister now finds herself in this same situation only it is in a custody battle between herself and her son for a child he, the son,  had by a mother who is out of the picture. 

Thank you so much, Dr. Phil, for Thursday and Friday's shows.  My sister and I had not seen one another for 36 years....long, lost sisters....so in TWO SHORT DAYS you have had bullseye shows that highlight the issues of our lives.  I just hope this latest one doesn't tear us apart as we have not had enough  "reunion" time to survive the intensity of this latest situation.  You are going to help me alot, I think, and for that I am deeply, deeply grateful. 

Well said!

Went through the same thing.  But my case is even more sickening.  I did not see my children for over 3 yrs as I know that I know that he set those poor kids up to take the fall emotionally in that they were prepped to feel guilty and as though they had betrayed HIM if they had any love for me.  I essentially never saw my children for three years.  I thought my guts had been ripped out.

He had tons of domestic violence issues against him, I had head injuries up the yingyang and that also affected not only me but the kids as I could not move for 4 days and 4 nights as my head exploded in a fireballs of pain with every beat of my heart from my head injuries. 

But Mr. Moneybags...............MR. MONEYBAGS...............oh, it is amazing what you can buy with filthy lucre.  That poor little girl was turned into a monster of Gimmegimmegimme when she had been a sweet, darling child.  She was allowed to run rampant half-naked and would sit in his lap like that.  I'm sure he thoroughly enjoyed it.  These men are sick.  They do not have a scrap or shred of respect for women.  So so what if his own daughter was allowed to leave the house like that.  Another generation of women debased and trashed.  No wonder they go to Madonna concerts, the Mother of All Whores!

So you are so correct, my dear.  They go to court and know how to look so good.  They join the Rotary and present so well.  In the meantime, you show up  in court frazzled as hell from 4-day migraine due to your head injuries from HIM, and you just get this look from Mz. Liberal as Hell judge....and it all goes in the crapper.  Then he thinks he's a fricken' hero for giving you a lift home because you don't even own a car!

I got no alimony, no spousal support, nothing.  He got "the kids, cars, cats, cash" as I have always called it. 

The truly, truly disgusting thing?  I was so sick I was at death's door.  Became homeless essentially.   Because what boss is going to let you not come in to work because you can't even move from incapacitating migraines???  Look up the word!!

I knew I would die soon enough when other health issues hit and I  so wanted nothing more than to die with my children each in a room beside me....he again became the "hero" and let me sleep on the office floor....that  in that state I remarried my batterer.  Oh, how I want to write a book!

I survived.  I survived him.  Thought I would die to alleviate my pain....honestly didn't think anyone could survive what I was enduring at that point....and I remarried him ....almost like Stockholm Syndrome, or like "out of my mind" or "temporary insanity"....and here I am today.  Survived it all ....only to end up coming full circle.  Oy vey.

Do not worry, though.  I am doing fine.  Still have many health problems but I see my children.  They are the light of this sordid world, are they not?

But it is how you describe.  Good post.  (PS....maybe I will survive him and "winner takes all", eh?  I am just kidding.  No bitterness here as I know he must face God.  Pray for him.  He needs it!)  ;O)