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November 9, 2006, 7:48 am PST

11/08 Cougars and Sugar Daddies

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I'm going to make this short because I have replied to enough of people with the same concept as you. Ok you married a ADULT you dated an ADULT you felt in love with an ADULT you married an ADULT anyone in their 20's are consider an ADULTS because they have maturity under their belts and a little life experiences under their belts. I'm trying to paint you a picture do you see my master piece? anyone under is consider a CHILD. They have  a little maturity under their belts and they have no life experiences under their belts. They can't even buy a legal drink. Do you see the big picture One is just a big picture hanging up on the wall and the other one is a MASTER PIECE.... ...... ARE YOU KEEPING UP....... OK....MATURITY big word "ADULT" .......IMMATURITY big word CHILD"   Now a 18 year old a 24 year old DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE??????? Yes a line must be drawn because she is still mentally developing into a women. If your daughter, or son were dating a 40 year old and they were only 18 years old, how would you feel. What would a 40 year old women want with your son? what would  your son have to offer a 40 year old women just in conversation alone, or financially? Now reverse that with your daughter with a 40 year old man? I'm very  happy for you, and you made a wise decision. Your in a long lasting relationship and marriage because you married an ADULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and not a CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG DIFFERENCE...............you got yourself a MASTER PIECE YOU GO GIRL GOOD FOR YOU
How old are you? 12?
 
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November 10, 2006, 6:01 am PST

Fantasy Land

Quote From: jesusislord

o.k.  i  think  you live in fantasy land!  you can't know a person in 15mins! 

Why are you so bitter? I didn't say I knew him in 15 minutes. I'm still learning things about him every day, but we have been in love and together since 15 minutes after we met over 7 years ago. Sometimes it happens. Are you angry because it's never happened to you, or that it happens for anybody at all? I had a fantasy that I'd meet a man fall in love and be happy, so I guess I do live in a fantasy land... yippy for me! I'm so happy I want everyone to be happy, why don't you?
 
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November 10, 2006, 6:12 am PST

Kindness goes a lot further

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Why is it that people get mad when the truth is being told?because the truth hurts,his friend Mike was just trying to get the truth in........even if he was crude,he has obviously been through alot with sanjay and does not want to see his friend get hurt......It has nothing to do with jealousy,Mike looked like he can get some WOMEN!And is man enough to know the difference!The reason Sanjay din;t tell him to shut up and pretty much just sat there and laughed ,he knew Mike was telling the truth.

You can state your opinion and tell the truth without being cruel. All the people involved in the show are consenting adults. It is not up to us or anyone else to tell them if they are right, wrong, stupid, or brilliant. My personal opinion is that they are all delusional, but if they are happy then let them be. It will all go to hell sooner rather then later. If Sanjay is taken to the cleaners then it's his fault, and maybe he'll learn something. His friend should just kindly state his opinion and leave it at that. If Sanjay and the little bubble head get married, have children and live happily ever after they will not want a cruel naysayer bashing them forever. If it all goes to hell (like I think it will) no one wants to hear, "I told you so."

 
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November 10, 2006, 6:20 am PST

Ya huh!

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Anything is possible. My husband said he knew almost instantly as well, I didn't. We have a wonderful relationship and have been married over 6 yrs. Maybe you haven't found that kind of love yet or maybe you're not suppose to. Either way it goes, weirder things have happened. I just don't think you should write off another persons life just because you don't or can't see it.
I wrote him/her back already. I think people that are so bitter and deny that sometimes people fall in love instantly have never been in love. It's very sad, and I feel badly for them. My husband and I have no way to explain it, we don't bother anymore we are too busy being in love, and getting on with the not so lovely aspects of life... like working, grocery shopping, laundry, a messy little boy finger painting Spiderman all over the house and so on. Live and let live. People screw up and move on. Life is messy, but so worth the trip.
 
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November 10, 2006, 7:29 am PST

Stop and think

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 Dear Dr. Phil:
I understand it doesn't feel so great to be scammed. In reality, if you lose a couple of bucks, so what!!!!! I think it's great that you use your show and power and influence to get the jerks that scammed you. What about the rest of us?????!!!!! Just recently my husband and I were scammed out of nearly $400.00 Canadian. In your world this is maybe $1.00 but in our world, it is making the difference between our 3 kids getting Christmas or not and right now if things don't change, it seems far more likely that they will not. I have all kinds of information on the jerks that scammed us but ABSOLUTELY NO ONE gives a crap. The scammers live in the UK and I live in Canada. Our local and even provincial authorities refuse to help us unless the scammers live in our direct community.  have tried in vain to contact the authorities in the UK, but no luck so far. As for setting up a sting, it would be so easy to catch these guys as they use Wester Union to collect the money, but, again no one is willing to help us. Well, I'm sure you've heard the old saying "money talks, bullshit walks" Welcome to the humble world of the extremely lower class.
Sincerely,
Ann Fournier
What on earth were you doing sending $400 dollars to anyone that you didn't know? As you know as a Canadian there are a lot of institutions that will ensure your children have a Christmas. There are numerous means to check out the veracity of businesses as well, one being the media we are employing at this moment. If you can check an email you can google someone. Unfortunately there are too many violent criminals to go after to worry about people that do silly things with their money. Suck it up, and do better, for your children's sake.
 
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November 10, 2006, 8:03 am PST

Time to watch her

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 Am I ever glad to see this topic.  I have wanted to tell someone about this for so long, but my mother-in-law (using MIL for short) was so ashamed that she did not want the small town she lives in to know.  Here is her story the best that I can relay it:

After shopping at a local Wal-Mart 20 miles from her home, she returned to her car at which time a woman jumped in the passenger side door and said she had found some money, approximately $100,000 and wanted to know if my MIL  would share it with her.  Of course, my MIL told her "no" that she did not want any part of it.  After talking for a while, the woman told her that she needed to meet with a lawyer across the street and want MIL to take her over there in the car.  MIL took her over to this what she was told was the lawyer's office.  The scammer took her around the back way and had MIL park on the west side of the building.  The building ends up being Cracker Barrell and MIL never realized that until a week later when she took us to the "lawyer's office."  The scammer asked MIL to wait in the car and she would be right back.  She waited, as ordered, and upon the scammer's return, had MIL take her back to Wal-Mart, had MIL give her her address and phone number, and left.  MIL told us, her son and myself, of the incident several days later, and we both warned her not to participate in any phone conversation with a stranger nor answer the door to any stranger.

One month later, there was a knock on her country home's carport door.  She looked out to see three people; a black male, white male, and white female.  They flashed badges at her saying they were the FBI investigating a scam that happened at the Wal-Mart in the local town where she had shopped.  The white male and female forced themselves into the house and the black male returned to the van.  They convinced her that they were legal and not to fear.  Even had her sign a paper saying she would cooperate.  They spent two days brain-washing her saying they needed her to check money out of her checking, savings, and any other accounts to test the money to see if it had anything to do with the scam.  She should have called us, but they warned her not to call us or anyone as it would harm the investigation.

On Day 2, they showed up at her house and went to four of her banks where she had two checking accounts and two savings accounts with CD's in them.  Upon talking with the bank employees later that afternoon, they said they thought it was strange that MIL would be in there asking for money, but gave it to her anyway without questions other than one of the clerks said she would escort her to the car for safety.  MIL refused the help.  After MIL got the money, she met the black male behind a convenience store and gave him the money.  He told her the other two had asked him to meet her and get the money'; that they were not able to get there in time.  Shortly after giving him the money, the white female showed up and got in the driver's seat of MIL's car.  She started taking MIL home and got about 15 miles down the road at which time she told MIL that the men in the van were flashing their lights at them and she needed to see what they needed.   She pulled over, went back to the van, returned to MIL's car and put a manilla envelope in the glove box.  Scammer lady told her not to open the envelope until 1:00 p.m.  MIL returned home and waited until 1:00 to open the glove box.  At that time, she found napkins in the envelope and realized she had been scammed. 

MIL called us immediately hollering and crying saying "I've been had."  We rushed down to the little town, first calling the Sheriff's office as well as the local Police.  When we got there 1-1/2 hours later, the Sheriff was there talking to her.  The Sheriff's office tried to get fingerprints, but to no avail.  They were very clever.   Bless her heart, she was scared to death. 

After the Sheriff's investigation, the FBI was called who has done very little to help with the whole ordeal.  I've called them several times, but to no avail.  They came out I believe the next day and also tried to lift some fingerprints.  Nothing showed up from the reports though.  They did do some investigation such as obtaining videos from the convenience store, from a Burger King, where the lady had driven by to get a hamburger with MIL in the car, and even at the local Kentucky Chicken drive through.  They did, however, come to her house on two occasions wanting her to identify the woman and black man.  She identified the black man and that is the last we have heard from them.  It has been well over one year since we have been informed of any new developments and believe me, I have called several times leaving messages, but nobody will return my messages. 

MIL is so embarrassed about the whole incident saying why was she so stupid, and why didn't she call us.  Oh, my goodness, if she had called us, we might could have been there with the police and caught the sorry idiots. 

Just wanted to share this with you.  Feels good to finally get to tell someone that it seems makes a difference.  Of course, our family knows, but very few people outside know anything about it.


I'm terribly sorry for you and your family, but it is painfully obvious that your MIL is too feeble minded to take care of herself. You should immediately put her in a situation where she is taken care of. There are a lot of scary nasty people out there that take advantage of the elderly it's your job to protect her; don't let it happen again.

 
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November 10, 2006, 8:11 am PST

Another "they" say

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It is making me sick all you people who are posting for poeple to use their common sense. 

 

My best friend is the smartest person I know.  She graduated top of her class graduated college at the top of her class and so forth.  But she has no common sense.  Most of the studies state that if you are very smart that common sense is hard to come by.  She will believe anything anyone tells her and would fall for a scam just like this in a heartbeat.

 

So you have the common sense does that mean that you are book stupid?

 

Common people it is nobodies fault that they fell for a scam except the scammers themselves.

Could you direct me to those "studies" please?

Some clarification, sil vous plait... was that Com'on or Common as in plain and average.

It's nobody's fault that I'm brilliant and full of common sense.

I'm just special, and not in the drooly sense neither.

Time to get ready for work.. I'm in a silly mood, and work will soon beat it out of me.

 
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November 10, 2006, 9:48 pm PST

09/28 Love Scams?

Quote From: kllngmsftly

it doesnt matter wether you report then or not i have at at least 1000 pages of communication with the man who scammed me on the internet and have turned them over to the authorites and nothing has been done or will be they cant seem to trace them thru yahoo, msn, or hot mail.....

 

amazing isn't i with all the technology that we have ,,,, today in the states....

 

 

You misread my comment. I wasn't talking about people that have been scammed. I was talking about people that are smart enough not to be scammed in the first place. When a scammer asks for your address be smart enough to give them a law enforcement agency's address, and not your own. It won't catch them, but it will tell them that you know what they are up too, and it's fun to think of them wasting their time.

 
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November 10, 2006, 10:39 pm PST

So sad

Quote From: kllngmsftly

hello ladies,,,,,, as you can see my emotjions right now are  high, upset, embarrassed......

 

i saw this show  and taped it for 2 other friends of mne in ohio. as all others on advise of dr phil and many years waitng to decide to join match.com " which was the only dating site i joined"  with in 2 days i had several hits from the site and only one memorable man contacted me  from Topeka , kansas, why i dont now because i would have never traveled that far to visit or to relocate,  but we talked for 1 week via match .com and then he sent his yahoo email address to me , which ismike_pderoloveu@yahoo.com, within days he gave me another one saying his email was hacked and some one else had gotten his email address , so his new one he uses is mikepedroloveu@yahoo.com, and a third one is  mike_pedroloveu@hotmail.com, Just to let you no he is a true scammer.

 

same lines as all i have read here on his message board he is a smooth talker and very loving and sweet talking man, his story is he is 47 years old and electrician and contracted to go to nigeria to re-do complete rehabing 3 buildings in lagos nigeria, along with him is his 16 yr old son, has no family, no wife,  mother and father deceased. we talked for along time . before he began asking for money, 

 

1 st time was for money to get him out of a jam , all money was stolen from he job sites, via a empleyee, who was mexican, and dissappeared, so because he was site manager of the project, he needed 400.00 for atty to go to court with him to get out of this mess  so i sent it 428.00 via western union.

 

2nd time  he needed 1,200 dollars to pay fine for money being stolen, from job site , and because he trusted the mexican and let him have key to ofice where money and supplies where kept he wa found guilty. i sent him another 428.00 towards that via western union. Job was completed and he was paid 28,0000 dollars in money orders , and he wanted me to cash those here and snding the money back to him i didnt get involved with that becasue i had seen dr phil show, and he says that payment was written  on american money orders and couldnt be cashed there, Thats when a flag went up for me . And he is still needed to get these cashed and come back to be here with me ,

 

3rd amount of money i sent him was 742.00 for air plane tickets, to come to columbus ohio to get money orders cashed and pay me back, so i sent that via western union and just this

 

#4 amount of mony just this past wednesday he needs 482.00 for baggage and handling fees to complete  flight arrangements,

 

and now he needs another 482.00 for second ticket.

 

i have contacted the  Air France Airlines he tells me he is using to verify bta fees for baggage and handling , they communicated with me there or no such fees, from that airlines, and but did find out that he did make a reservation for two tickets out of there to columbus ohio, and they sent me they iternary, but says no payment has been made on flight tickets as of yet.

 

i am just so done and feel i have been taken so badly of my giving nature and loving and caring self.

 

why can't any one stop this fradulant ways of them taking advantage of innocent and loving women here in the states i have reported all email addresses to yahoo and hot mail and msn whom i know he goes thru..... but he remains on them ny way....

i will not stop untill his membership have stopped, completely

but what would keep him from using another name .......

 

Help me please........ any other suggestions please ,,,, respond to this message board

 

debbie

 I keep reading stories like yours. They are so sad. I don't understand being as desperate, lonely, or... there is no way to say this nicely... dumb as you. I'm sorry you're hurt, but what where you thinking? How can we stop this? We can't because we're not supposed to say it's your fault, but it is.

 You willingly sent this person or persons money. They did not hold a gun to your head, threaten you or your family. They did nothing but ask nicely. They didn't promise materials or a service in return for your money. I don't even think it's against the law. I can ask for whatever I want from you doesn't mean you have to give it.

 Can I have $500? My Momma needs an operation. I need to go to Toronto to pick up an orphan from Dublin. I have a case of chocolate cookies melting in Amsterdam please help me.

 NO??

 How can you say no... the cookies are desperate, and they are for the Irish orphan in Toronto who is going to sell them to make back your $500 for an operation for my mother of course. I know it all sounds silly and ridiculous, but not any more then the story you related here.

 The money you sent is gone. Consider it an expensive lesson in finance. There is nothing you can do, but not do it again.

 Best of luck, and I think you should consider books instead of the Internet.

 
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November 10, 2006, 10:47 pm PST

Clarification

Quote From: jesusislord

you took what i said the wrong way! 

Really? Explain it to me. And while you are at it explain the woman that was married to the BTK killer. She knew him for 30 odd years. How long does this take? Times a wastin'.

 

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