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September 22, 2005, 6:38 pm PDT

Been there, done that.

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This episode is so scary to me.  I know that there are times that I yell and scream at my kids, like after I ask them to do something about 10 times and they still don't, then I yell.  I try not to, and afterwards, when I calm down I go talk to the kids to make sure they are ok and to let them know that I am sorry for yelling and then we talk about what they did that caused me to be upset, then we hug and kiss.  I love my kids, and hate that I do lose it sometimes and it gets taken out on them.  It's not daily, like this woman said, nor is it even weekly...it's just when I get really frustrated with everything else and then they don't listen.  My girls are very spoiled and get away with more than they should...and they are only 10 months, 3 and 4.  Of course, the two oldest are the only ones that get disciplined.  We usually do time-outs.  They get hard sometimes, but being a stay at home mom, it's not always going to be roses, lol.  I know that I am nothing like this woman on the show, but it does scare me that at times, I am a little bit like her.  One thing I am very much against, no matter how upset I get with my children, I refuse to swear or call them stupid or anything like that.  I remember being told that I couldn't do anything right just one time when I was younger, and that still sticks with me.  It only took that one time to hear those words, and I still feel like I can't do anything right.  I don't want my kids to feel that way.   

  

OK, this turned into a book...part of staying at home 24/7 with little kids, never going anywhere without them, lol. 

I know exactly how you feel.  When I was young, whenever mom got mad at me (which was often) she'd say "I wish to God you were never born".   I'm 49 and I can still hear those words in my head, just like it was yesterday.  The only good thing that came out of that, was that I made sure I didn't use those words with my kids.  They're all grown up now & I've never used that remark on them, ever!! 

  

Hang in there kiddo.  Take it one day at a time; one incident at a time.  You have lots of little ones at home & I know how frustrating it can be.  But remember: they are just little kids acting their ages.  They aren't going to be perfect.  They've got lots of growing up to do.  Pick your fights carefully & don't sweat the small stuff.  I hate to sound like a cliche', but it's the truth & it works.  Add a little silliness to your days.  Even today, I sometimes serve a backwards dinner (dessert first; then the main meal).  Or we have dinner for breakfast & breakfast for dinner.   Or make the beds while the kids are still in it.  Try to smooth out the "lumps" & tickle `em.  My kids laughter was like a symphony orchestra.  God bless you for trying so hard to be a good mommy.  Your efforts will not go unrewarded. 

 
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October 31, 2005, 2:11 pm PST

Prader Willi Syndrome

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I think you've gotten thei mpression that I have an eating disorder, I don't, just completely fascinated (that sounds morbid) by eating disorders. You say you've tried tons of diets, have you tried exercising? You WILL stop losing weigh if you don't exercise. Exercise and water are the only completely sure fire way to lose weight. I wish you the best of luck, and I hope you continue to make better choices for your life.   ALSO, I am curious, what is PSW? 

Prader Willi Syndrome is a genetic disorder.  Infants at first don't know how to suckle & have to be taught how to breast or bottle feed.  Once they learn to eat, it's hard for them to stop.  They aren't born with the nerve that tells them they are full & they are born without the gag reflex.   They never feel satiated, & have been known to eat non-edibles as well.  My Brother-in-law was known to eat wood, light bulbs, entire sticks of butter & jars of mayonnaise, to name a few.  He had insulin-dependent diabetes & heart disease.  He had mild mental retardation.  He graduated high school in a special education class, but was never able to be gainfully employed.  His skeletal structure was large boned, but short instead of long.  He was also morbidly obese, & died of heart disease in his mid 40's.  It's extremely rare & there is no cure.  Successful households have locks on refrigerators, freezers & pantry cabinets.   But don't be fooled.  If they want it bad enough, PWS's can find food in the most unlikely places.  But locks do help. 

 
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November 3, 2005, 4:17 pm PST

God does not give us more than we can.....

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    I agree that it is sad that Nichelle's daughter has been living with this kind of treatment for who knows how long.  I am sorry that Nichelle's daughter has the condition that she does and it must be hard for Nichelle to swallow at times.  I am a firm believer that GOD DOES NOT GIVE US MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE.  I believe that Nichelle has the smarts, the patience, the know how some where in her to handle this situation very well.  I just think that she has, unfortunately, resorted to letting the frustration she must feel get the best of her.  I hope that this trip to Dr. Phil's show has opened her eyes to the damage that she has done to her daughter.  I also hope that she took away from being on the show a desire to educate herself more on the condition her daughter has and to make the best of life for her and her kids. I think that adoption would only cause more pain and tumoil in both of their lives.  It's a wonderful blessing that there is still a chance for Nichelle and her daughter to make up for time lost.  If Nichelle decides to seek the proper help and support that they could both benefit from I do believe that they will both be a lot happier when all is said and done.  I just hope that the abuse...no matter what form...is at it's definet end.  There is never any reason for it!!!!  EVER!!!!!!!
I, too, believe that God will not give us more than we can handle.  I just wish He didn't trust me so much.  ;  )  There are as many ways of caring for PWS children as there are humans on this planet.  I watched my in-laws deal with my brother-in-law with PWS until he died of heart disease in his 40's, & it was heart breaking.  Don't get me wrong.  They had the patience of saints.  It was just so heart breaking to watch them care for him day in and day out.  They never had a moments rest.  They also had another son with Cerebral Palsy who wasn't able to attend school.  Unfortunately, my father-in-law died at 51, leaving my 46 year old mother-in-law at home to care for both sons by herself.  When her PWS son died in his mid 40's, she only lived another 5 years.  At 51 their CP son is still alive (although he looks like a 15 year old) & is living with his 50 year old healthy brother.  I just wish there could have been something I could do to ease their burden, but they were a proud family, and didn't want any help from "outsiders".   As the ex-wife of their other healthy brother (who they were ashamed of for leaving me & our sons for the proverbial other woman), they wouldn't even consider letting me help when their own son was emotionally unavailable for his own flesh & blood.  I can only hope that this family will find some kind of happiness for the rest of their lives.  Good luck Nichelle.  God bless you & your family.
 
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November 4, 2005, 1:25 pm PST

Dear A.S. Mom,

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My Daughter has Angelman Syndrome, another genetic disability on the same area of the same gene as Prater Willies, some behaviors are similar, she is a food thief and is so sneaky!!!  As I look at life I sometimes think that God must have dropped some coffee on my leger page, sometimes enough is enough, but we always get by, so that proves...? Anyhow, no one should abuse another, all we need in life is the golden rule, and remember "first do no harm". Smile, laugh, be kind and keep dancing through life....

I couldn't agree more.  You gotta laugh to keep from crying.  As a Christian, I know God gives me specific skills for specific tasks.  Sometimes I don't always know what that is, but the purpose eventually comes to light.  I don't always like the task asked of me, but who am I to say "NO"?    I am so sad for my mother-in-law.  She had such a difficult life & didn't quite understand "why me"?  But she did the best she could with what she had at the time, and believe me....in the 1950's there wasn't a whole lot of protocol going around.  Her mother constantly reminded her that her conception was not only an accident, but that she was also a living abortion.  Fast forward to marriage at age 16, and 5 childbirths in rapid succession left her with:
 

  1. Son#1 born in 1951 with Prader-Willi Syndrome & Freulich Syndrome.
  2. Daughter#1 born in 1952 with extra fingers, toes & a brain tumor on her optic nerve.  She died in 1953 at 9 months old during unsuccessful brain surgery.
  3. Son#2 born in 1954 with extra fingers, toes & cerebral palsy.
  4. Son#3 born in 1955 physically normal, but gay (I'm not going there).
  5. Son#4 born in 1957 physically normal (my ex-husband).
  6. Mother died in November 1979 of long term terminal cancer.
  7. Husband died in Jan 1980 at age 51of complications suffered in a fall that left him quadriplegic for 6 weeks.
  8. Son#1 died in the summer of 1996 of heart disease brought on by Prader-Willi Syndrome.
  9. Mother-in-law died in 2001 of no known cause.

We never know what's next in our lives.  But I agree that not only should we live the golden rule, but help out where ever we can.  It's not going to kill us to babysit once in a while so that any parent (single or otherwise) of a child with lifelong health challenges can have a break.  I thank God everyday for the life he's given me & the things that he's shown me.  Now it's time to pay it forward.  Thank you for writing.  I'll keep you in my prayers too.
 

 
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February 6, 2006, 1:02 pm PST

Their own show????

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 Those twins need their own show. Seriously, I was listening to the show and I hardly heard Dr. Phil get a word in edge wise. All I heard was a ton of clucking and more clucking. They should watch this tape so they can see how silly they were being.
Oh please no!!!!!  I don't think I could bear for them to have their own show.  Who in their right mind would actually watch such a show?  My stomach still hurts from listening to them.  I wanted to stop watching them, but being the eternal optimist, I kept hoping the show would get better, but it didn't.  They have way too much time on their hands.   And they actually have friends?!?!?  
 
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February 7, 2006, 6:28 pm PST

What planet are you from?????????

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Yea your right.  Because if it would have been a show on things well done, there would be no response.  Because most people are to quick to be nasty and mean.
You obviously either never or seldom watch the Dr.Phil Show.  We're not talking the Jerry Springer show here.  Can you honestly believe that the entire studio & home audience wouldn't respond and that they are too quick to be nasty and mean????   The majority of the responses to the twins is negative in one way or another, and rightfully so.  Take you head out of the sand & replay the tape of the show.  How can you not be repulsed by their behavior???  Didn't make a tape???  The Dr.Phil Show will be more than happy to sell you a copy.  I've been in the studio audience a few times, and the audience always responds favorable to people who have gone the extra mile; who did something nice when they didn't have to; who helped where help was needed; who lived by the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  The twins are so full of themselves.  They're boring,  narcissistic, disgusting, rude, shallow.   AAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!   I just want to shake some sense into them both.  But I've already wasted too much of my time on them, & they just aren't worth it. 
 
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February 10, 2006, 1:59 pm PST

What's the point?

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 I am not repulsed by the show because I have know Jennifer for a lot longer that 30 mins that you do from the show.  Yea you have been in the audience.  But you don't know what went on.  Just because you went to the show a few times that makes you a expert.  WRONG.  They pump them up before they come out and tell them not to let Dr Phill speak.  I don't watch the show much because I have a life.  Like I said before Jennifer helps a lot of people including myself.  Why didn't they show a family night like we had the other nite.  No you didn't.  So you get your head out of the sand.  Come and spend a nite with us here and then you will see just how good of a person Jennifer is. I will pay just to show you how wrong you are.  Hey maybe Dr Phill will pay for it. 
It doesn't matter how great she is off camera, although I'm glad she is.  The two of them went on the Dr.Phil Show for a specific reason:  to address their sibling rivalry & learn how to change their behavior in a more positive way.  And that never even happened.  I'm not the only one who felt that the twins only came on the show for their 15 minutes of fame. They were too proud of themselves & showed no intention or desire to change their behavior.  That portion of the show was a total waste of time.  It doesn't matter what the producer may have told them to say before they went on stage:  they are 2 grown ups in a free country.  They could have said anything they wanted to say.  If they didn't like how the producer coached them, they could have brought the matter up with Dr.Phil.  He wouldn't have been afraid to deal with it.   And further more, I don't need to come to your house (but thank you for the invitation) because I believe you when you say she's a great human being on her own turf.   But they voluntarily wrote Dr.Phil to ask for his help.  Nobody forced them to write that letter.   Once they were welcomed to the show, the reason for the appearance was discarded altogether.   What I'd like to see happen is therapy for them both & then a reappearance a few months later to see how they've grown & matured, not to mention having a 2nd chance to clear their reputation on the Dr.Phil Show.  I'm not trying to badmouth the twins.  I truly want to see them change their relationship for the better.  But please don't ask the rest of us to pretend we didn't notice their unfortunate behavior on camera.   That wouldn't being doing them any favors either.  I just want you to be more open minded about their situation.  Let's all try to help the twins, rather than beat them down about it.  Actually, I would love to sit on the porch swing & have some coffee with you someday.   I think we both could bring something interesting into the conversation.  Take care & God bless you & yours.
 
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February 13, 2006, 11:36 am PST

Will there be a follow up show?

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To be honest I went to Hollywood never having therapy, leaving Hollywood thinking I need therapy and NOW after the posts on the message board Yikes!  99 percent of my life has been postive. the 1 percent negative has been directed to my twin,(Dr Phil was suppose to get to Judy but never did)I did acknowledge the mean things I've said and done, I did write early in the posts I've learned competion isn't good, I've been making my twin the loser.  There are many things that we can improve in our lives and I honestly went on the show becasue of my twin and I didn't realize the hurt I've been causing her.  After the show a lady asked how she can prevent her children from ending up like us at 46 and competing. He told her to treat her children indivdually. My twin and I had been put in the same crib, the same bed, the same ballet  class, the same teachers , we have been pitted against each other since birth. That doesn't excuse our behavior at 46, but it will help young mothers of multiples of what not to do. I'm not beating my chest on the good things I do in life because I do things unconditionally,  I just know that wasn't the real me on TV. THank you for your opinions and God bless you too, Jennifer

Do you think that you & your sister will seek help for this problem?  I hope so, because I don't want you to miss out on a really great relationship with your sister.  I have 2 sisters for whom I am extremely thankful.  We aren't twins, but my older sister has fraternal twin daughters.  They are as different as night & day, & we love them for it. 

  

My sisters are so special to me.  My older sister let me ride on her coat tails in high school.  I wanted to do everything that she could do, & she encouraged me, supporting me all the way.  I discovered a few things that she did that I couldn't do, such as powder puff football & a survival hike with the California Conservation Corp in Koosharem, Utah.   I was so bad in sports, that I actually shot myself in archery (that's a story for another day).  Fast forward 32 years & she hasn't changed a bit.  I love her bunches & bunches.  I have scads of stories I could tell you about her, but I'll save them for another day. 

  

My younger sister is the practical, no nonsense type.  She's not afraid to tell you the truth.  She can untangle the stickiest messes I've made at times in my life.  She can really cut to the chase.  She the most generous, sweet hearted person I've ever known & I love her lots.  I have scads of stories to tell about her as well, but I'll save them for another day too.  Maybe I should write a book. 

  

I want you & your sister to have this same kind of unconditional love.  Cut out the competitional crap & start creating some love & sharing with each other.  Don't let time & ill will pass you by.  It's not too late.  I would really love to see you two get the help you need & then come back on the show so we can see & share in the progress you've made.  And this time, just be yourselves.  Just show your own true colors.  I feel confident that you can turn this situation around in a relatively short period of time.  Please don't waste another day.  I'll be keeping an eye on you.  : ) 

 
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May 30, 2006, 11:03 am PDT

Tattooed I.D. card

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As a paramedic for over 25 years, it seems that "necessary" ID cards relating to medical information come around every few years. So far as I know, none of these "necessary" ID schemes last very long.Unless the ID had some biometric information on it that tied it to a specific individual, it is useless - just like the "in case of emergency" info people are urged to put on their cell phones, the "Vial of Life," et cetera. I cannot make treatment decisions based on what is on the card, because I don't know that the card belongs to any certain person.

Under the provisions of HIPPA, Letterman-Petris-Short Act, et cetera, a hospital/doctor/et cetera cannot even confirm or deny whether a person is a patient without a release from that patient. No one could give out medical information on a specific individual without a release from that person. This would apply to a centralized repository of medical records, too.

So, basically, you have a card with information on it that may or may not relate to a particular person. Since you don't know who the card belongs to - even if you find it in a wallet, et cetera - it would only serve to provide information that can be considered when making treatment decisions. If someone withheld, or gave, care based on a card like this, alone, it would be below the standard of care.

There are a very limited number of things that can be used in the field and in the emergency department to resuscitate a patient. Resuscitation is pretty basic and, if you are crashing, there are not a lot of choices as to what we can use. If a person presents in a coma, they are going to get the same treatment whether or not they have an ID card that says they are a diabetic. That information is helpful, but does not determine what kind of care you give a patient.

Once a person is resuscitated, there are better and more appropriate ways to obtain further information about a person's medical history. Methods that are verifiable and can be trusted.

Yes, people are injured because of incomplete medical information. Unfortuntely, it is, probably, inevitable in a medical care system as complex as ours that there will be some mistakes. Sometimes, it is impossible to wait until you have all the information on a patient before you have to do something.

In addition, putting all this medical information in a depository that is accessable by the web, is a BAD IDEA. Any database that is available over the Internet can be hacked. Once that happens, everything about you is public knowledge.

Maybe people should have their medical information & social security numbers tattooed somewhere on their body.  That would eliminate the confusion over misplaced I.D. cards.  

   

Just kidding.  It was only an idea, albeit not a serious one.  I just couldn't resist lightening the mood a little.  

 
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May 30, 2006, 11:40 am PDT

I was at the taping of this show....

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I personally think tattoos should be peoples personal choice. And I agree that someone should not take getting one lightly. But I would also like to say that I love Dr.Phil and usually feel he does a good job or covering topics....in this case I am disapointed. It would have been nice to have a pro tattoo side. I am sorry Jessica got tattoos and is sorry about them now that she is a Mom. But I am a Mom of 3 kids as well...I have seven tattoos (some are on the big side), and I love my tattoos!! I was in my twenties when I started getting them, I don't find people treat me differently(if they did, I wouldn't care). I certainly have never been turned away from a job. I am not affraid people won't think I am a good Mom. What counts is on the inside, not the outside. I am very proud of my body art. I plan on getting more!! And if some day my kids want one too, I would say to really think about it, and make sure you go some place safe. I am raising my kids to except all people, so I never see them being ashamed of mine( why should they be).  

I was in the studio audience for the taping of the tattoo part of this show.  I know it was edited for brevity, but it stayed pretty true to form; although there was more emphasis on the mother's double standards.  She threatened to kick her 22 year old (not a teenager) daughter out of the house if she got one more tattoo, when all along the mother hide the fact that she had a tattoo of her own, and Dr.Phil made her fess up to her double standard.   

   

After the show, Dr.Phil came back on stage & took questions from the audience.  Almost all the people chosen to speak, had negative or regretful comments regarding tattoos.  I couldn't stand it another minute, so I raised my hand & Dr.Phil called on me.  I stood right up & stated that I was 49 years old & just got my first tattoo.  Finally, all the "tattooed & proud of it" people in the audience, came out of their shells & applauded.   

   

My younger son had wanted a tattoo in his early teens.  My ex-husband & I told him that he had to met 3 criteria before getting a tattoo:   

1.  He had to wait until he was 18.   

2.  He had to get straight A's in school.   

3.  He had to save his allowance & gift money to pay for the tattoo himself.   

   

We didn't think he could meet criteria #2 because of his ADHD, but he sure fooled us.  It wasn't the easiest thing to do, but he was so proud of his report card, that we didn't dare renege on our agreement.   

   

Being that my ex-husband hates needles, I was the one who took our son for his first, tasteful tattoo.  We got so caught up in the mother/son bonding moment, that my son suggested that I get a tattoo also.  I don't know what I was thinking, but I went ahead & got a tattoo of a cute little "wooley" lamb (in honor of my last name) with a little red heart.  It's on my upper left arm, & is only visible if I wear sleeveless blouses (which is never).  It's not that I'm embarrassed about the tattoo.  I just don't like how my arms look in a sleeveless top.   

   

I'm now 50 & I've added 2 little ladybug tattoos, one on each side of the wooley-lamb.  I'm having my son's names tattooed under each ladybug (because we all know that the red ladybugs are no ladies) & I'm going to add "Wilden Wooley" above & below the lamb.  These are the only tattoos I'm ever going to get, & yes....I'm very proud of them, & both of my sons, who are now 20 & 22.  By the way, my older son has no desire to get a tattoo & that's ok too.   

 

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