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August 2, 2005, 3:23 pm PDT

How untrue to thinking is...

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It doesn’t seem real to me yet, but I am ‘Officially’ retired.

I had a very interesting week. People said things that genuinely surprised me, some were even shocking!

I was taken aback by the shear number of people who made a point of stopping by to say, ‘Good-Bye’.

So many people made comments about how “different things (were) going be, now…” (I though they would miss me just because I came to work regularly.) However, folks made statements about the “standard” I set, pointing out that regardless of how “crazy” things got that THEY felt I had consistently REFUSED to compromise fundamental principals! Others, described ME as their ‘LEADER’ and “Captain of the Ship”! I didn’t even know that they even knew or cared about my stance on anything!

There were hugs, endearing gestures. I couldn’t believe it.! (Many had fussed and fumed over every single decision I reached!)

Others were there laughing and re-counting stories about everything from my response to the ‘System’, to the eulogy I once wrote for a very ornate spider, I killed. (Well, someone had to do it! He had no family, locally!)

I almost got a swelled head! Then it occurred to me, ‘Hey, Girl! This is just a send-off. If you hadn’t been here to do this job someone else would have. Maybe even better than you did! Don’t loses your head! You just did a job, period.’

Now, it’s on to the next step…

 

Brenda J

Brenda, these people did not have to say anything and yet they did.  They said what was true in their hearts at the moment it was said.  You did make a difference. You were important and you stood up for your principles which is something very few people do anymore.

 

When I left, I left without fanfare -- I told nobody what I was doing because I knew I needed to leave to get my mental health back.  I didn't feel like fighting anymore.  I just wanted to have peace of mind finally.

 

You are taking so much with you to your next step.  I'm proud of you. 

 

Marcia

 
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August 2, 2005, 3:35 pm PDT

You are quite right here....

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 My husband responds that I shouldn't be concerned with the reactions of others. I am,mostly because If there is something I am doing, I want to change it. Between us and the responses here, I have come to the conclusion that I may be coming off as arrogant. I've decided to ask a few peers if that is a possibility. If it is, or not, I am definitely going to work on that. I know that things can not be obvious to us. When my glasses prescription was out, some thought I was angry. I didn't realize that the squinting and concentration interpreting things visually was making me appear perturbed.

I agree with you about the differences. I've always assumed that my grades would not affect anyone else's. I have always assumed if they were out of the mainstream, they would be thrown out as an anomaly and not considered on any curve. That's one of the reasons I couldn't be a good teacher or tutor to my fellow students. I sometimes lack insight as to other people's knowledge. I also have difficulties conveying ideas. Sometimes it's impossible, even very frustrating to pull the ideas out of my head and put them into words for others to understand. My husband finds it comical sometimes. It extends to me referring to "thingies" and "you know". He is an excellent teacher, and communicator. It's just one of the differences that leave me in awe of him. I am amazed and often in awe of the gifts other people have. I accept most things about me that are flawed or different as just part of who I am. I would love to be tall, thin, beautiful, red-headed, organized and relaxed. I would love to be able to read electrical schematics, play an instrument, cook well or be able to distinguish easily two feet or two minutes from twenty or two hundred. I would love to have sweet, normal, adoring parents or a sibling who didn't suffer from some kind of severe issues. I am who I am. I admire those things in others, but I accept what I have been given. I admire them so much, I married an opposite. My husband is incredibly talented and gifted. We don't share the same knowledge, hobbies, or gifts. He is the almost utter opposite of me, and his gifts leave me feeling completely inadequate and in awe. We mesh perfectly inspite of and because of our opposites.

I get what you are talking about with your son. I have always had a tendency to get wrapped up in learning things. I sometimes want to explain to my peers that they may have the same knowledge I do if they had read the PDR for the first time at five or six. To explain that reading and acquiring knowledge was my addiction and my way of escaping some things in life. It's one of the reasons I don't feel as "gifted" as some people see me. I know the number of books I have read in my lifetime numbers in the millions. I think it's only logical that my knowledge and abilities should seem out of place for a second or third year student for that reason alone.

Thanks again, it's so helpful and wonderful to be able to see as others. As a person who is deficient in perceiving others perceptions, it's especially helpful and useful and wonderful.

Kim

Kim, when I was in a class with a woman who was raising her 2 sons on her own, I used to hear her excuses on why she didn't do her homework or study for a test.  Then 1 day, I asked her if she made her sons do theirs and she said of course, I then asked her why she felt that it was important for them and not her.  What was she actually teaching her sons.  Her mouth dropped.

 

Kim, sometimes people attack / say things that are digs because they themselves are not doing their very best and they lash out.  Maybe they got into a fight with someone before class, and when you received the well earned pat on the back, they had to lash out.

 

I pray daily for the patience and understanding to ignore the remarks from people.  When it's family, I lash out with a challenge.  Like when I'm told that I'M LIKE THIS OR THAT - then I challenge them and say but I've been doing this & this haven't I?  So is it true?

 

But you are learing to interept their behaviors / words - otherwise you wouldn't be posting here -- it's a form of listening / brainstorming.   You post, you get responses, you read those responses, you compare them to the events, you write back with your thoughts, and eventually you work thru things.  It's why I love posting here when I'm working on something and can't seem to grasp it.

 

In fact, just by writing you, I clear my internal thinking up or remember a truth that I needed to help me.

 

I'm glad you were able to get the help you needed - and you can always talk to the instructor about the "CURVE" - I found when I went to college, that most instructors actually didn't have 1.  You were graded on the points received.  That really surprised folks because we were always told up front that the points from homework, discussion, tests, & quizzes were counted.  If the instructor felt we all were doing poorly, they gave us an extra assignment to raise our point average. 

 
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August 3, 2005, 9:07 am PDT

Questions that need answering

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The surprise retirement party REALLY was a surprise!!! The gifts were Great.

 

I'm still hearing from people almost daily saying, "I didn't KNOW you were leaving!", wishing me well, while expressing concren about how thing will work if I'm not there. This is all very flattering, but I am wondering how much of this is about saying 'nice' things to someone who is retiring  and how much of this is actually based in reality.

The statements characterizing me as "Leader" and "Captain of the ship" are NEWS to me.

 

Thank You for your support!

 

I too was needing a 'Mental Health' Break!!!

 

 

 

Brenda 

Okay Brenda,

 

1. I take it you are calling them or contacting them - correct or are they contacting you?  No body called me but 1 person when I left.  That's because my broken record was so whinning that even I was tired to talking about it.

 

2. The people are telling you these words are liars and can't be trusted to tell you the truth?

 

I was a leader and trainer for so many people.  It was a mode of operation I worked in without even knowing it.  My AHA moment camed the summer I was a team coordinator for 3 different teams while we were working on developing a Reseach Technical Repository.  It was then I realized how well I could perform and that I was wasting my life energy working for an organization that feared my success.

 

How did you answer those 2 questions.

 

Marcia

 
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August 3, 2005, 9:17 am PDT

Stop thinking about it!

You need to stop thinking about the loan - you have a year.  If you keep the loan/debt in your mind 24/7, then you will never find a job because you will never get pass the fear you are creating within.

 

I too have debt - ~$18,000 and I need to find a job.  I gave myself the summer off because I know that come September all the students will have returned to school and all sorts of jobs will open up again.  For me, I'm going to look at temporary service so that I can go to school part-time. 

 

What type of jobs are posted in the paper?  Is there a larger city nearby that you can look there for a job - I know you may not want to move but a small city/town is quite limited in work sometimes. Are there any big companies nearby?

 

You may have to take a lower paying job at first and work your way up - the Business Administration degree can open doors at an entry level in a business that you are wanting to learn from.  I know that being a secretary was quite beneficial for me because I was able to learn about the company and network with the other secretaries.  Secretaries are one of the best resources. 

 

Don't wait for the job to come to you in the way of a newspaper.   Put in your resume' and then follow-up in a month or so.  Let them know you really are interested.  Be open to the fact that you have a degree.  Many times, companies hire people with degrees that have no connection to the job - it's that the company knows that you are trainable and that you are willing to learn.

 

Your fears are just like my own.  How do I pay off my debt and prepare myself for retirement in 10 years when I've had to cash in my 401K to help me thru this transistion in life.

 
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August 3, 2005, 9:25 am PDT

Creating a personal ESCROW account

When I purchased my home back in 1997, I picked up a brochure at the bank on ESCROW.  The AHA moment came when I realized that I could do the same for myself.  So I went home and made a list of what my yearly bills were going to be:

  1. Car Insurance, House Insurance, Life Insurance, Dental Insurance
  2. Water & Sewer
  3. Vacation
  4. Home Repairs
  5. Car Repairs
  6. House payment
  7. Property Taxes

I then totaled up the amounts and divided it by 26 (the # of paychecks I get in 1 year).  Then I went to the bank and opened up a savings account.  Had the bank transfer the AMOUNT into the ESCROW account every pay period.

 

It took a while to build up the ESCROW; however, it was wonderful when at 6 months, I was paying my car insurance at one time.

 

The house payment was easier too!  Instead of 1 large payment, I had it split up.  All I had to do was transfer the monies back into my savings and write a check.

 

NOTE: there are 52 weeks in a month, and I got paid every other week which meant I had 26 paydays in a year.  2 of those checks helped me to build up my ESCROW account and I had the extra monies to help me pay for emergencies or a vacation or a new TV at the end of the year.

 
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August 3, 2005, 9:33 am PDT

You are on track

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Hi everyone,

I am new to posting, and I posted this as a reply to someone, then realized I could get ideas from others if I just posted in general.

 

I lost 41 lbs, (weight watchers without the meetings) gained back about 10, and was stabilized there. (137) I have been off work 14 months, and have had 5 surgeries- two of them on my foot. I have gained weight and now weigh in at 173. The best weight for me is 120-125. I am not quite 5'  2" losing 48-53 pounds at age 45 is scary, and I agree about the small goals.

 

I didn't do any exercise last time, and now I am so out of shape I am concerned about the ability to do my job. I am getting ready to go and walk a track near my house now that the heat has broken. I am thinking of trying Pilates and lifting free weights too. I have 6 weeks to get fit enough to work a 40 hour week in a factory,which I will have not done in 16 months!!!!!

ANY tips would be appriciated!!!!

                                                              Lisa

Hi Lisa, you are on track with starting with walking.  Because you had your feet operated on, I would suggest that if your doctor hasn't authorized you to get orthipetics for your feet, you should get them.  They helped me alot - I am flat footed.  I ran into really big problems last year when my calves locked up and I could barely walk for a couple of weeks.

 

  1. Get yourself a good pair of shoes. I like New Balance and got mine from SEARS when they were on sale for $49.99. 
  2. Do stretches after your walk - your muscles will get tight if you don't.
  3. Take it really slow.  Make a goal to do 1/2 the track for 1 week.  Then the whole track for week 2.
  4. You may have walk every other day.  It depends on your legs.

I highly recommend Pilates for every body!  It did wonders for me.  If you do free weights & pilates.  Do the free weights for the upper body as your lower body is being worked out with pilates.

 

If you can get help with a personal trainer at a gym, that would be the best advice to.  I know that the machines at the gym help you to build up your muscles better.

 

However, you can't do it all over night.  Acknowledge that when you go back to work you will still need to work on exercise.  You might find water aerobics or another type of class beneficial as well.

 

Take it really slow so that you can allow yourself an opportunity to adapt to an exercise program or otherwise, you will stop.

 

Also know that it's easier getting started than maintaining.  I walk my dogs every other day and they know it!  I don't walk for myself - I walk for them!  I'm an excellent caretaker so I use my sense of caretaking to make me exercise.  Hey, I do whatever works for me!

 
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August 3, 2005, 9:39 am PDT

Trying to get out of the Blahs....

I've finally figured out what I need to do get back on track.  I got it all planned out but I just can't seem to take the next step.  It's like, I'm frozen in time.  I know what I need to do and just refuse to think or do it.

 

I know that I've been tackling this since 11/18/03 when I committed to the WLC.  I took time off to do Self Matters and then spent a lot of time mastering Key 4, Step 2 to where I could finally just read the book without some stupid life event throwing me off.  I can stop my binges & urges, I just don't want to focus anymore.

 

Did any one else have this problem?  I'm thinking that it's just FEAR of finally tackling my weight which is the last of my "TO BE FIXED" to do.  I have lived as a depressive for more than 40 years.  I've beaten myself up and kept myself living a victimize life style during all that time. 

 

I know that once I begin, I won't be depressed anymore because I'll be too busy living the life style. It's just that this is my biggest UNKNOWN I've faced to date.

 

Has anyone else been here?  At this place that I am in?  I know that it's common because I'm a member of a WLC support group and all the members are just like me.  Have lived with the HAVE TO LOSE WEIGHT, HAVE TO ... to do list for so long that it's become just a life style and letting go of it is just so scary.

 

Need someone to talk to about this.

 
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August 4, 2005, 12:23 pm PDT

Thanks..

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 I had tried all kinds of diets, all kinds of exercise routines for many years. I knew which ones worked for me and would enable me to lose the weight I wanted and needed to lose. I just couldn't stick to them long enough, the old willpower mentality. Then I found a weight loss hypnotherapy class and signed up for it. Through hypnosis I "revisited" what exercise was like as a child-PLAYING. Since the first session 2 1/2 years ago, I exercise regularly, and it's fun. I know not everyone can afford to do this, or even believes that it can work for them, but it definitely worked for me. It immediately gave me new inner dialogue to replace the tapes I had been using when I would snack or binge, and it put me in touch with my true inner voice. After the sessions, I tackled SELF MATTERS to help me understand where all my faulty thinking came from and how to get past it. But for the immediate jolt to get up and get moving, I can't say enough about hypnosis.

I actually don't need hypnosis. I'm a visualist and if I can see it in my mind, I have done it.  Doing even a mediation works well with me.  I used Dr. Lawlis' cd's on weight loss and it really helped me thru some hard times.  But I need to break out of this BLAH feeling. Ever other day, I walk my dogs, go to the gym on 1 non-walking day, and do yardwork when the weather is okay.

 

Exercise is a great blah release. I guess I'm using the wrong word.  It's like I know that I have to stop sitting on the couch but moving is just something I'm not used to.  If I could afford to go to a professional therapist, I would go gladly. 

 

I was just wondering if anyone else had felt this way and had made it thru it.  I go thru it periodically - I've done so many different things to pull myself out.  I was just wondering if there was an easier way to do it.

 

M

 
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August 4, 2005, 7:42 pm PDT

I stand corrected....

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Anyone have student loan debt? I graduated college last year, and I have had my loans deferred for about a year. I am so worried about this debt. according to them its going to take 25 years to pay it off, by that time i'll have paid over 50,000

i have alot of loans, I did not realize it was so high, and now, i can't even find a good job with my degree. (business administration) ( i live in a small place) i just dont know what to do, its overwhelming to think about.

any advice would be helpful

thank you

 

I purchased another of Suze Orman's books:  THE LAWS OF MONEY, THE LESSONS OF LIFE.  On pages 108-109 she discusses Student Loans and says that if you have a couple, you should consolidate them.  

  

I was doing the 9 Steps to Financial Freedom and just couldn't move into Step 4 (wills & stuff) - so today, I saw this book for $6 and bought it.  I just have way too many FEARS and I'm still working on getting a good handle on what my monthly spending is. It's like, I can only do it for a little while and then burn out.   

  

Check to see if your local library has the book -- she even suggests a company you can contact to consolidate your other bills as well.  For me, I'm trying to raise my credit score up -- I can't believe how low it has become!  I went from the 600's to the 400's in a couple of months. 

  

 
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August 5, 2005, 10:13 am PDT

An AHA Moment!

Yesterday, I purchased WLS for Teens (written by Jay) because after reading WLS for the 4th or 5th time, I just couldn't master Key 4, Step 2: Urges/Impulses.  The very first Key 4 exercise Jay asked me to do was to answer this question: WHAT AM I DOING WITH FOOD, EATING, DIEITNG, OR WEIGHT THAT I WOULD LOVE TO STOP?  I started on my list and when I got to 4, I went off track and discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having and didn't even realize it.   

  

I worked in the corporate world for years.  I was a team coordinator, a project clerk, personnel clerk, records management assistant, ISO 9000 auditor and Adminstrative Coordinator, etc. etc. etc.  I've even signed up for two classes in August to check out the Technical Writer career because that's what I have been doing for years and years.  

  

So, yesterday in my writing, I acknowledged that the truth is, I want a simple, mindless job.  Today, I put an application in at the neighborhood bakery to be a sales clerk.  There wouldn't be any meetings, or me taking home a briefcase of work cause I didn't have enough time at my 8-9 hour a day job to get it all done.  I want to just come home and have a life.  I want to be a home maker. 

  

I'm 52 years old and I just want to be a home maker.  I want to keep my home neat, I want to have time to sew, to practice my dance routine, and most importantly have the energy to be a part of my family's life. 

  

It's like a door has opened for me.  And it might be what's been keeping me from finally moving forward because I've not faced this decision in the past - but kept saying that just wait until September and then I'll decide.  Well, I've decided and this is my goal.  I'm not sure if this is my life goal, but after 30+ years of working in the corporate world, I just don't want to return to it. 

  

Marcia 

 

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