Messages By: hyphup

Quote From: dancingfeather

It isn't true. Women don't use the *tips and tricks* to get their man and then use it for gold digging. Women's first purpose is LOVE..women think with their hearts first and SEX second and MONEY thirdly.

 

Men think with THEIR PENIS FIRST, THEIR HEAD SECOND AND THEIR HEARTS LAST.

 

Women want a good provider and that is normal. Woman want a man who can *provide* the necessary needs to build a family. Women don't use these tips to rob a man..women who do this have known how without any lessons.

 

 

Quote From: PennyLane78

I was just reading about this Mystery Method...it's absolutely disgusting and demeaning towards the very basis of humanity!

WOW!

Quote From: tammy_anne

I was thining about one of the statagies these men teach in order to approach a woman that they are interested in. It was the one were they knock the woman down a peg or two to bring her down to a more humane level? I had a gut reaction to that. The reason being is that the men that find the woman unapporachable is due to their lack of self esteem not hers.

But in order for them to feel she is more appraochable they use a strategy to knock her self esteem lower and get her into defending her sense of self?

Uh to me that is just wrong.

The assumtion is that if a person is beautiful to some one they are unapproachable, and their self esteem has to be knocked down a peg or two, this is so backwards! What should be really focused on is the person who's self esteem and perception of self is so low that they feel that they have to do this in order to be able to engage in a conversation with some one they are attracted to.

HAHA honestly if a man appraoched me then made even light hearted disperaging remarks about my apperance, I am going to not waste my time defending why my nails, although he may think they are nice are real or fake lol.

It is superficial to me and if I was given a compliment and then have the very same compliment negated in the very same breath, uh yea ok thanks for not giving me the compliment i thought you were giving me lol cya.

but to get back to my original though, these individuals that find women they are atracted to as unaproachable based on their looks really should be taking courses in how to embrace their own qualities, goodness, value, and worth, Self love is the greatest love, because with out it how in the world can you possibly understand how to love another individual.

furthermore, if it is just a good time you are looking for, well for petes sake be honest enough to say so, lol, a lot of the women that go to bars are simply looking for a good time as well, perhaps not the good time you are looking for, but what ever.

And to be brutaly honest, we do not really know a person based on one meeting, and every one has a past and that past may influence their present, meaning the beautiful woman that you are bringing down a peg or two might have low self esteem already... and you are just reinforcing that perception of herself, uh ya nice guy...

Get real, if you want to compliment have enough self esteem to be genuine about it...or say nothing at all.

Tammy

Quote From: PennyLane78

It's not something that should be done at all. ****ing with people minds is appalling. 

Quote From: canada_88

hi all this talking about guys or girls think is good and all we think we know what this side thinks that side thinks  but the truth really is this world is run buy money and thats that.true i only tryd dateing 3 times but thay didnt work and i look at other people what hapind to them and my parints and the 1 thing that thay all had in comin is money so iv tryd dateing at 21 it startid and endid there iv bin singal sins then im 25 now and i dont plan on dateing ever couse it doseint mater what you look like or you like this and that or your a nice guy/girl its just how much money do you have and are you willing to give it away evin thow you dont say that out loud thats what it comes down to money money money . i dont like that thats how the world is but you cant change the world you can only lern how to get buy in it.

Quote From: wonderwomanvt

Don't be so certain you can't be duped. I know a man (married) who is always on the prowl for women he can prey on for sex. It's not the sex that gives him the feelings of power, but their act of submission and how easily and quickly they  fall for his words and have sex with him. What makes it really bad is he doesn't use condoms and these women don't insist on it. They believe he really cares for them, and he thinks they are "stupid bitches" for falling for his ways. Some of these women are teachers and nurses, and don't insist on condoms!

He's out there and he knows a victim when he sees them. He comes across as a very nice and pleasant person, but he's out to lie and deceive his way into your pants and be gone or use you until he's moved on for more free sex with another victim.

Quote From: PennyLane78

I agree with you! I think those things are STUPID.  Wearing a push up bra for the only purpose of trying to make your breasts seem deceptively large is STUPID.

If you have a real issue with not being able to be yourself in public then many you need therapy...but you don't need a course on how to knock a woman down a notch just to make yourself seem suddenly interesting and other such silly mind games.

Quote From: PennyLane78

That's because there is no way to learn to be good at them...you can only go in, be yourself and see where it goes.  There is no way to be good at something with so many variables. It's like saying, "I'm good at guessing what dice will be rolled out." People are way too complicated to be ever be "good at" dating or relationships.

Be yourself and accept each person for what they are...

Quote From: cheeker

I'm sorry but this whole thing where men reading books and taking classes on how to hook up with a hot chick was so dumb, it made me laugh.

 

These guys need real advice, or they're just wasting their time and their money. There's nothng wrong with an insecue guy getting sound advice but the idea of subtle put downs to make a woman want them more made me laugh. Only the most arrogant, materialistic women would fall for this crap.

Quote From: cndrlla

There is definitely something to that quote from the Marquis de Sade!! Just look at all the women who fall for these absolute loser, ignorant abusive men who START OUT using these methods and manipulating the women, jerking them like puppets, and then ramping it up until they are controlling them in many other ways. The worse these women are treated, the better the women seem to like it. How messed up is that!?

Women who accept these push/pull techniques are on an unhappy path.

 

Personally, I hate mind games and will cut anyone off at the knees who tries that tactic with me. It's insulting to my intelligence. Men who use manipulation to "get" women often become abusers because they love the power and control. They see women as conquests. 

 

I used to work with abused women....nothing was more frustrating!! You'd get them and their kids into a secure women's shelter, arrange for continuing security to allow them to permanently get out of the abusive situation,  jump through hoops to make sure they were safe, (often at great personal danger to yourself) and what was the first thing they did as soon as they got settled in? Call the worthless piece of crap who abused them AND their kids, and tell him where they were so he could come and get them! Not only did these dummies put themselves and their kids back in danger, but they endangered the rest of the women in the shelter who were serious about getting away from their abusers.

 

I will NEVER understand that mind-set! I lived through the horror of an abusive husband when I was just 16 and had a small son....it only took two episodes before I got the heck out of there! ...and guess what? The abuse started out as what I call "mind-f***ing...the push/pull technique. Anyone who gets off by messing with another's mind is seriously disturbed!!