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August 27, 2005, 3:37 pm PDT

Marcia...You and your Sister are in my prayers.

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Yesterday morning, I wrote that I was ready to get back into the world again in my online diary.  I went and applied for a part-time position at K-Mart (it's mindless job - I don't need to create a process/procedure, or documents, or be a project coordinator - I can go to work and do my job and come home). 

  

Yesterday afternoon, my mom called to tell me that my sister's cancer has come back (her left breast was removed last October) and they want her to get a hysteromy ASAP - but her life dream has been to go to Hawaii -- which is scheduled for 9/22/05.  That means her operation will be in October. 

  

I've so proud of myself for taking the time to do SELF MATTERS cause Dr. Phil is just so right!  If I hadn't done it, I wouldn't be there for her NOW.  I feel different, I'm acting proactively.  I'm thinking NOW - and I'm doing NOW.  Before, I would be lost in self-pity, blame, shame, guilt - whatever and not be there for her. 

  

but you want to know what the kicker is?  Her words for the last few years has been:  I KNOW I'M GOING TO DIE.  Doesn't that sound very much like my own words I said about me?  And her work life is just as bad as mine was & her relationship with her hubby is just as abusive as mine was.   

  

But I can hear her now.  I'm not busy with me anymore - cause I'm living my life 24/7. 

  

I'm not sure if I can help her - but I can stand by her.  I'm really glad that I gave myself the 8 months to discover who I am inside - to forgive - to learn - to practice - to finally be able to be the sister, friend, daughter, co-worker that doesn't hurt people just because she can. 

  

I'm not sure if I will be posting to this particular board anymore.  But I will keep up my online diary.  It's helping me because I need to be upfront about what's going on in my life.  My posts here are just too intense for most folks - there I can be as intense and a open as I need to be so I can work things out. 

  

Please pray for my sister. 

Your sister has someone special to be with during a very difficult time. I will keep you both in my prayers. I will miss you on this board. I have been able to gain so much from your willingnes to share and I wish to thank you. I have personal NEVER perceived you as "too intense" in your postings. Are you sure that "too intense" is accurate with the others, here.  

   

After all, I'm usually the one who drops the UNTHINKABLE life bombs on the board. Really hoping that I don't just blow people away with the INTENSE experiences that I have posted.   

   

I sure hope you will check in once in a while and let us know how you're doing. I will miss you. However, you have to do what YOU need to do right now.  

   

My thoughts and prayers are with you.  

   

   

Brenda  

 
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August 27, 2005, 5:48 pm PDT

I NEED my A**-Kicking Skills Back!!!!

I need to reclaim my power, ya’ll!!!!  

Yesterday, I realized that I was LIVING a Dr. Phil Show re-run- for both my life and the show that aired. While trying to speak to someone I’ve known for a relatively short period of time, now and ONLY on serious business matters, this man starts FLIRTING! At first I thought it was just me. So, I continued to speak to this individual about business in a more SERIOUS manner, which became increasingly difficult. HE kept insisting that I NOT call him ‘mister’ but by his first name, speaking to me with ‘endearing’ comments which I tried to work around until he came out and said that he would be willing to DRIVE a flooring sample from the beach THREE hours to where I now live!!! Then, “Brenda, is there someone, ‘special’ in your life right now?” That’s when it HIT me. So, I asked him WHERE he was going with THIS “BUSINESS” conversation! SO, HE TOLD ME!!! According to HIM, He says that he is legally separated. NOT EVEN AN AVAILABLE!!!!!! @$%*!?&^%#!!!@?#%^&~#$!!!!!  

Well….I just had to BITE my tongue rather than say, “Would you excuse me, just a moment? I need to step into the downstairs bathroom just to be sure that I didn’t ACCIDENTIALLY get a SCARLET LETTER stuck to MY FRONT while we were talking!!!!” Honestly! I suppose if I didn’t desperately need him to just FINISH building my HOME I would have just gone for the JUGULAR! This is like the third time in about two years that I’ve been approached by men who KNOW that I KNOW that they are in a committed relationships!!! I’m NOT an attractive person. Also, I DO NOT conduct myself in a manner that could even remotely be perceive as flirtatious. THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH WHAT I’M DOING!!!

I‘LL JUST TELL HIM THE TRUTH. That I JUST want him to finish my house and that MADNESS RUNS IN MY FAMILY!!!!!!!!  

Brenda  

  

 
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August 28, 2005, 12:55 pm PDT

Thanks, Ritehere, Teri, Marcia!!!!

Ya know, I spent time thinking about this. I mean here I am a 50 year old female, trying to be polite to someone who is crossing MAJOR boundaries! What WAS I thinking.?!?! I did feel FOOLISH because I really, at the time, became perplexed and a bit ill at ease with this guy. I really do want him to FINISH my house. I think that he’s just desperate right now. Instead of just saying, “Oh, I see…” I’m going to be telling this guy that I ONLY NEED him to FINISH my house. Nothing more; that our relationship is strictly about business, period! I will be using my ‘NO NONSENSE’ verbiage! I LOVE Teri’s suggestions of pretending to pick bugs off yourself! (LOL) And, using that ‘demon possession ’ voice! Love it! Love it!!   

   

However, this situation did give me some food for thought. I came to realize that if this guy was someone else, available and someone I also found attractive and even interested in, I would have probably encountered the same problem. I just don’t think of people as sexual beings and it shows because my best friends and my twin sister have ALL teased me about it. It REALLY does take a solid stone wall falling on me in these sort of situations, before I ‘get it’. Once many years ago this repair man kept injuring himself and would come to the Infirmary and quietly ask for me. He declined all the other RN’s offers to clean him up and bandage him. They ALL teased me. I just said, “Oh, ya’ll he’s just a little quirky that’s all!” My supervisor just shook her head saying sadly, “That poor man. He’s probably going to lose half his blood supply, waiting on Brenda to notice that he ain’t JUST coming up here for injuries.”  

So, I suppose that it’s a GOOD thing that I will be resuming my work on ’Self Matters’ tomorrow.   

Thanks All!   

Brenda  

 
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August 28, 2005, 1:42 pm PDT

You're Right...

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 Brenda, cut yourself some slack. These guys are the ones doing something wrong, don't you think? And I would hazard a guess that you're not the only one they try this with. When we are hit on this way, we women have a tendency to 1.) Think the cad is joking, 2.)Think he's "just flirting", 3.)Didn't really mean it. You see, most women are stuck in their reality, and can't perceive that some men are just jerks, with no feelings or brains. We are too kind because we wouldn't THINK of hitting on someone if we are in a committed relationship or they are. Get over it, there are some real slow learners out there Brenda. All you have to do is tell them "Stow it, or I'll tell your wife what you're up to." Cheats want nothing to do with someone who will broadcast their activities. Of course, you'll gain all kinds of new nicknames from him and his ilk, but who cares?
You're not the one who needs to change their behavior, you're not married. You can be as alluring and seductive and interesting as you want to be.

I just have WAY TOO many insecurities about stuff like this! And, I'm too passive or neutral when I'm really wanting, in my personal life, to say, "No way Buster!"  THUS, I WILL HAVE TO SUCCESSFULLY FINISH 'SELF MATTERS' BEFORE I CAN CONSIDE BEING ALLURING, SEDUCTIVE OR INTERESTING.  

  

Thanks,  Brenda  

 
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August 29, 2005, 2:23 pm PDT

Susan and Stephanie are enslaved...

I felt enormous sadness for both of these women. Both have lifestyles that are longstanding. Both are going to have to struggle to get involved and invested in a different life. Susan and Stephanie have a very poor sense of self-worth. While I feel hopeful for both of these women, they have just started to tackle a real ‘Bear’ of a fight. I’m cheering for both of them. Both they and their children deserve lives of REAL Freedom!!!  

 
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August 29, 2005, 2:41 pm PDT

Teri...Just some thoughts....

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I have been struggling with an anger issue since Saturday night, and I am not sure where to go with it.   

  

I spent Saturday with my kids, who live 3 hours away.  I drive there in the morning and then after spending the day with them, I drive home.  I get home around 8:30-9:00 p.m.  Well, this last Saturday when I came home, my boyfriend/mate said I smelled as if I had been drinking.  This is the second time he has said that when I have come home.   

  

I suppose this would not bother me so much if I actually HAD been drinking, yet I had not.  The first time I just shrugged it off as strange and didn't give it much thought.  This time, however, it seemed to strike a nerve that really irritated me.   

  

He was not rude, and he was just telling me what he thought he smelled, yet for some reason I am angry.  Maybe because I saw distrust in his eyes.  I don't know.  I know that I have felt myself distancing from him, which is probably the last thing I need to be doing.  I have tried to talk about it, yet I feel like crying when I even try to bring it up.  The thing is, I don't believe I am angry at him, but I am angry, and hurt.  This boggles me, as things such as this don't usually effect me this way.   

  

He has been distancing himself also.  I am trying to just observe our behavior and see how we bring some resolution to this issue, and I know we are both harboring feelings that we are not talking about, yet maybe that is because we don't have to.  I don't know.  I know that look of distrust really hurt me, and I can't imagine his feeling distrust didn't hurt him.  Wow.  Relationships are not my strong suit.   

  

I know I am rambling, yet I need some feedback, even it is to just put things in perspective.  I see this situation as representative or symbolic of deficit in my relationship, and I need to know how to replenish my part.  Being authentic would mean I would just plainly say "I am angry and I don't really know why" to him and working it out.  I guess I don't like the idea of people being upset with me...lol...does that sound familiar to anyone?   

  

Any feedback would be appreciated.  Thanks everyone. 

Teri 

What do you need to say to him that goes unsaid?? Distrust in a relationship can be painful. Are you NOT speaking to avoid something that NEEDS to be said? Is this 'distancing', detachment a natural part of something healthy for you BOTH in this relationship? Or is it just the path of least resistance? Listen to your 'gut'. What is your 'gut' telling you you need to do with the anger???  

   

   

Keep in touch. I wish you only the best.  

   

   

Brenda  

 
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August 30, 2005, 4:20 pm PDT

I will miss you, Linda

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 It's been real, it's been great. I feel like I've made some good friends and benefitted in many ways posting here. I need to branch out into the world and relate to people face to face now. One of the things I need to do is get a job, my youngest will be going to college next year and we would rather not  put that on credit. I won't be able to post as much, but I will be around and drop in from time to time.
Longstory, the hike you told me about looks intriguing, I found it on my topo maps.

 We hiked a canyon close to home last weekend. We ended up going twice as far as first planned and ran out of water. We were dehydrated, hot and dirty, but it was worth it. I'm going to be busy for the next couple of weekends, but after that who knows? If there are aspens that way, it may be a gorgeous hike up to the Crags.

The self discovery goes on. Peace to all.

We all have to do what we have to do when we need to do it. I can’t even begin to accurately describe how much I will miss you kindness, and sensitive, thoughtful wisdom. THERE’S GOING TO BE A HOLE WHERE YOU WERE ON THIS BOARD AND IN MY LIFE!!!

I wish you the very best on your new quest. Being out there in the world, in the workplace will provide a lot of new and different experiences. I do feel that wherever you go and whatever you do you will bring something original and uniquely special. I have come to view you as an extraordinary, exceptional gift that came into my life just when I needed to start looking at my life, myself, and my choices in a different manner.    

I will miss the very distinctive way you seem to take an issue, like a stone, and using your own senses point out it’s commonness, or it’s usefulness, or the truth you see in it. Well, I did that with YOU and discovered that I have encountered a gem!!!   

Keep in touch! I will miss you! As I continue working on ‘Self Matters’ I will try and use what I’ve learned from you in tackling that challenge.   

I look forward to hearing from you!   

Brenda   

  

 

   

 
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August 30, 2005, 4:41 pm PDT

OUCH!!!

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Lyne, Ritehere, Brenda, Grub48 and Kimbrem, 

  

I want to thank you all for your feedback.  You are all correct, honesty in a relationship is vital, and Grub48, I appreciate the way you described the 4 sides of honesty in a relationship.   

  

I listened pretty hard to my "gut", and I had an epiphany as to why I was feeling this anger.   

  

When my ex-husband and I divorced, he was very angry and possessive.  When he realized I was not going to stay, he started to sabotage my relationships with my family by telling them I was doing drugs.  Now, I don't do drugs and had no intention at the time.  Because of the nature of divorce, I lost some weight during that time.  He used this as a reinforcer for his claim.   

  

This hurt me deeply, as even my own parents believed what he was saying.  I guess I have not recovered from this at all, as even writing about it now brings me to tears.   

  

When I saw the distrust in my boyfriend/mate's eyes, it hurt just like it did with my parents.  I know I wasn't drinking, so I am not hung up on that so much as the distrust.   

  

Once I realized where the feelings were coming from, I was able to open up and talk about them to him.  He understood, and we recognized the distancing and we stopped.  We made special efforts to be closer and spent much of the day just appreciating each other.   

  

As far as the smell, well, I had 2 take and bake pizza's in the back seat that had been rising the whole drive, and had been drinking lemonade, so we think the yeast smell mixed with the lemonade caused a "boozy" odor.   

  

I want to thank everyone for their feedback again, as I don't think I would have handled this near as well without it.  Thanks again! 

Teri 

Teri, I winced when I read your post. I can only imagine how painful that was for you.  

I'm glad you found each other in your relationship! I admire your courage and I appreciate your willingness to share this kind of painful sadness. I think that what you've described is a testament to how you've grown as a human being, just since I've been reading this board.  

   

While you may not have recovered from the pain of the chaos your ex created in your life, it sounds like you sure have made a big step in that direction!!!!  

   

Brenda :-)  

   

   

 
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August 31, 2005, 2:12 pm PDT

How long it takes...is how long it takes!

There are just so many things that surface when facing someone who, for whatever reason(s) the person had to give up a child.    

    

I felt for Susan when Judy did not make further contact. However, when you examine what Judy had to say after the initial reunion. Judy characterized her part of coming to this reunion as a 'gift'. She also, spoke of hoping that this whole experience would not 'overwhelm' her. My guess is Judy may need some time. She may need to just be with her own thoughts and feelings for a while.   

   

Lastly,   

The work that BOTH Susan and E.J. have done to mend their relationship is NOTHING short of WONDERFUL!!! Beautiful work, ladies!!   

 
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August 31, 2005, 3:55 pm PDT

'Mental Illness...It's not what you think.'

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Brenda, 

  

Thank you for the encouragement.  You are right, I am NOT over the pain caused by my ex, yet everyday I work towards self empowerment so that I don't have to be controlled by him.   

  

We had been married 11 years.  I had not divorced him earlier because I was afraid of what would happen, plus it is against the religion I was raised in.  He suffers from mental illness and was hospitalized twice when we had been married 7 years.  I really wanted to leave then.  

  

When I finally could take no more, he had a very hard time accepting it.  In fact, I don't think he has, and we have been divorced about 5 years.  We were emotionally divorced long before that.  We didn't even share a bedroom.   

  

We owned two houses right next door to each other.  We tried to be neighbors, but it was too much for him.  He ended up putting signs on my windows, constantly watching me, and would go into my house when I wasn't home and take things. It's called stalking.  

  

Condensed version, I ended up leaving, him having forced me into a situation where I had to leave my kids behind, and I left fearing for my life.  I didn't see my kids for a year, and it almost killed me, literally.   

  

With my boyfriend's support, encouragement and sometimes insistence, I started to put myself back together.  I got through the suicidal depression and became angry.  I chose to use it well.  A wonderful mentoring program was born of this, as I had to learn how to get back to court on my own and have my rights as a parent reinforced.  I did it and I won.  The kids did not want to move, but we have a good relationship now, and we talk so much and I go see them as often as I can.  They won't come here because of how angry their dad gets when my boyfriend/mate is around.  My ex hates him, even though he doesn't really know anything about him.   Thus, blending the families is not an option right now.  I want it to be, though.   

  

When we divorced, I lost everything.  My parents have not spoken to me in over 5 years.  My brothers have not as well.  The church I grew up in preached so many good things, yet when I needed them, they did not want to help...so I was alone, devastated and watching my life be destroyed by an angry ex.  I cannot allow that to happen again....thus I must grow and become empowered.  

  

I appreciate your recognition of my "growth."  I was pretty happy when I realized I caught something before it became a fight or argument.  The healing from talking about it was so good and warm...and complete.  I will work towards continuing this path. 

  

Thanks again Brenda, 

Teri 

  

  

I’m sure that I’m going to get some real negative responses for this posting.(I got the slogan for the heading to this message from the Department of Mental Health!!!)    

    

So many times I see people ‘excuse’ and/or accept completely UNACCEPTABLE behavior just because an individual has a diagnosis straight out of the good ole DSMIV. I don’t think people REALLY understand that a diagnosis of Mental Illness CAN NOT be used as an EXCUSE for inappropriately disrupting the lives of the entire family. Often, people have an image of some ‘sad’, despondent and/or confused person who SHOULD NOT be held accountable for any kind of harmful, hurtful or HATEFUL behavior, EVER!!! ALL because they have a history of Mental Illness! Even when they are relatively stable and NOT struggling with any acute symptoms!    

There are also those out there-especially in the Bible Belt-who feel that people should remain in a marriage long after the LOVE is gone because of one of the individuals being Mentally Ill! The truth is, there ARE times when it is in the best interest of not only the couple but for their children for them to be divorced!!! It takes ENORMOUS courage to know when to leave a relationship! Including when it involves someone who is Mentally Ill! I would personally like to commend you on YOUR choice to leave a TOXIC relationship. I know that people tend to vilify those who leave someone who is Mentally Ill, however, the Mentally Ill, when stable, have the same capacity to be vicious and mean as ANYONE else!   

I am glad that you listened to and responded to that ‘inner voice’ that lead you to leave!   

YOU ARE SPECIAL AND DESERVING OF LOVE AND HAPPINESS!!!!   

 Brenda   

 

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