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February 8, 2007, 11:14 pm PST

I agree

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This person is a predator, nothing more.  He wanted to showcase.  Usually these people stay below ground however he has elected to come out.  Complusive behavior just dont go away, it requires doctors, sometimes meds and even then takes alot to control it.   I am not a doctor but even I know this so I hope this baffoon doesnt think we really believe him.  He chose a girl younger because older women would catch on to his lies easier.  While watching the only hope I had  was that someone would jump up and slap him.  Evidently he thinks he has made the world a better place because of his behavior, considering all the women that liked this.  Please Dr. Phil let the police be watching this person, he is dangerous.
I also wonder  why that beautiful, young girl's parents haven't put him out of everyone's misery.
 
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February 8, 2007, 11:34 pm PST

STAY PUT!

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I don't have the money to move. We are so far in debt that I can't afford to move. I don't have anywhere to go and I don't want to be a burden on anyone else. Any suggestions???

THROW HIS LAZY ASS OUT!!!! 

 
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February 8, 2007, 11:41 pm PST

02/06 The Dr. Phil House: Man Camp, Part 2

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when watching part 1 of Man Camp, I was overthrown with so many mixed emotions running through me. It all happened when Dr. Phil said do you know how many times I've called my wife a bitch.............and he put his fingers up to form a zero, and he said zero.  There is not a day that goes by in my 25 years of marriage that I am not cursed at or screamed at by terrible names. It's just nice to know there are men that don't do that. I have so much more to say but I'm to afraid of opening up that can of emotions.  Being I am alone with no extended family, no one to turn to I just can't handle that alone.  I just wanted to say it was so nice to here a man say that about his wife, it was truly wonderful.

Thank you,

Lisa

Long Island, NY

Why in the world would you put up with that.  Are you afraid of what he might do if you stood up to him?  I would hope he would lay just one finger on me and I would have his ass thrown in jail!!!  WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!!!!

 
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February 16, 2007, 8:29 pm PST

Well put Stuie!

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Am I supposed to feel sorry for these people?  I mean, that the point, right?  Go on national television, evoke pity and rally support from other obese people in order to justify their life style.  Well, I do pity them.  I pity the fact that they have such little self esteem and such a complete disregard for the rest of us, that it comes down to thinking it is not unreasonable to have someone else (let alone your daughter!) empty your piss from a bucket because you cant be bothered to walk five feet to the bathroom.  Oh?  You cant walk to the bathroom?  Gastric bypass is the answer?  I imagine that anyone with such little common sense (could be denial, could be plain stupidity, but Ill go with common sense), that can blank face state they cant afford produce, perhaps doesnt realize that that procedure doesnt make you instantly thin, nor will it have any impact if you dont change your lifestyle.  There are no miracle cures.  You did this to yourself, and you can undo it yourself.  As for enablers, sure family and friends can certainly be enablers.  But as a human being, having free will, we have the option of saying no.  Remember Nancy Reagan?  Just say no kids.  Obesity is completely out of control in this country.  Childhood obesity = lazy parents.  It is nearly impossible to be obese and not be lazy.  I am waiting for people to take some responsibility and be held accountable for their actions!  A person that exercises daily, weekly even, and uses their brain to read food labels, will not become fat, let alone obese.  Clearly there are a small percentage of people with medical issues that precede the weight problem.  That is medical, and treated as such, and not what I am talking about.  However, people that have health problems due to their obesity, please.  If I shot up heroin in my arm through a needle for fifteen years and contracted health problems, would you feel badly for me?  Probably not.  But isnt that what people are arguing?  That these people have an addiction? An addiction to food.  Give. Me. A. Break.  Thats only the beginning of the myriad of excuses spewed forth in order to justify their choices. These people eat themselves to the point of near death, and claim to be disabled, yet are offended if others make judgments against them.  Pardon the pun, but they want their cake and they wanna eat it too.  Maybe if someone would take a stand- a firm one at that- then they wouldnt get to eat their cake and could possibly have a chance to live.  I would like someone to explain to me, without justification of said lifestyle, why I should have to financially support these people?  Going on disability because your fat means I am in part paying for your tacos and grilled cheeses.  If they are so fat that they cant work, then they cant earn money to buy the food that is making them fat so they get to use my money that I work for.  When does the enabling end???  If they didnt have money then they would have to do something to support themselves.  I feel like our society does these people a true injustice 9x? Really?  There are pants out there that are actually a size 9x?  Where is the line drawn?  That is not okay.  Enabling!  Yes, perhaps they should feel shame.  And embarrassment.  Perhaps that would make them change.  But as long as we are supposed to tip toe around them and be polite and make them feel good about themselves, then they dont have to change.  This is not a problem all over the world.  Nope.  Just here in good ol America.  Am I the only one that is completely angered and nauseated by this whole disgusting plea for pity?  Well, there you have it.  I do.  I really do pity you.

I couldn't of said it better myself.  The whistling and finger snapping was unbelievable, but I almost completely lost it over the piss bucket.  I did not detect any shame or embarrassment from that mother (not that she even deserves that title).  That poor 15 yr. old.  having to live like that!  I was sickened.

 
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February 16, 2007, 8:58 pm PST

OBVIOUSLY THE CARETAKER NEEDS REPLACED

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I am Cindy's care provider and Vic and I have a system where she does whats reasonable for her age, yes she does do some things for her mother but would you be so upset if her mother had MS or was blind or had some other illness or are you just mad because she's fat?????   Like any other teenager the privileges that Vic has are based on her behavior, have you ever known any teenager who didn't feel they were unduly picked on or that life was horribly unfair. She's 15 and she has the freedom of a 15 yr old the problem is that when she was between 8 and 10 she also had the freedom of a 15 yr old because Cindy was so in a depression that she wasn't participating in what was going on with Vic and now that she is, Vic is irritated that she can't just run around willy nilly with no accountability, she now attends school regularly and just passed all her first sem. of high school classes with Cs or better now thats progress!!!!!
Please don't waste your time trying to justify that woman's unspeakable behavior towards her daughter.  Whistling, finger snapping, PISS BUCKET??  Come on,  GIVE ME A BREAK.  I don't think The Child Welfare Department considers this sort of crap for daily chores as acceptable. 
 
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February 24, 2007, 1:44 am PST

SURELY YOU'RE NOT SERIOUS

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You only saw the whistling finger you did not see Cindy asking vickey three times to do what cindy asked her to do. Cindy was only joking she puts vickey first. Vickey gets what she wan'ts when she wan'ts it.  I have never known vicky to go with out. PLEASE poor 15 yr old. Do you have a teenager?????????????????????????????????????????   Let me tell you i do and they are not easy to deal with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        At least cindy is not beating her or letting her get raped by some mothers do. she is not running the streets and she is getting good grades.

 

Yes, I do have a 17yr old girl and so far I havent received any medals for "not beating her" or "not letting her get raped."  What  idiotic excuses to try to justify that mother's behavior!  If Vickey is getting good grades it's because she's working hard and making good choices.  Her mother deserves no credit for that.  VICKEY DOES!!!! 

I, more often than not, have to ask my 17 yr old 3+ times to do something. Child Services has removed Vickey from the home in the past!!!!  HELLO! Doesn't that tell you something????  They obviously did NOT think Vickey "gets what she wants when she wants it."   More importantly, gets what she NEEDS when she needs it.  As far as the piss bucket goes, I am sickened by the thought.    YES, I SAY POOR VICKEY.  SOMEONE PLEASE GET HER OUT OF THAT HELLHOLE. 

 
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February 24, 2007, 2:02 am PST

WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION?

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Who said anything about blame or what she deserved. I only suggested that the girl I replied to needed to be a litle smarter than her attitude on this board indicated. Ever heard the saying, "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread"?
So if calling the police and/or throwing his ass out is not the answer, what is ???  Does encouraging  someone to put up with that sort of behavior even one more day constitute have a "smart attitude?"
 

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