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October 10, 2005, 3:58 pm PDT

I can not believe she said that!!!!

Hi Dr. Phil and Robin, 

  

Today I was watching as you guest Joy described her feelings about wanting to stay single so she did not lose her independence???   TO Joy: What are you thinking?????? 

  

I have been happily married to the same man for the past 29 yrs (oh, same as Dr Phil and Robin), and I can tell you that you are totally wrong.  I have always been my own person and even though I am married I am a separate and totally independent person.  I do what I want, when I want, how I want, etc.  How can that be???? 

  

Because my husband decided when he thought about marriage that he was going to make me everything I should be.  He is there to help when I need it, to cry when I feel it, to jump for joy when I succeed, to laugh or lighten the path when things get tough, and to support me in every thing I do.  And guess what????   It had a way of wear off on me, too.  I became his biggest supporter, and did what ever I needed to support him like he supported me.   

  

Because we both did these things for each other we are now very happy and complete and successful people who walk the same path hand in hand.   

  

Debi

 

  

 
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October 24, 2005, 3:43 pm PDT

That woman needs to re-read her marriage vows!!!!!

What is that woman thinking????    She is upset because her husband has a medical problem that is life threatening????   Come on!!!  Most of us who are married remember our marriage vows, you know the part that says you will be there for richer or poorer, and in sickness and in health.....    

  

I have been married for 29+ years, and my husband and I have always thought of the other first.  More importantly, I am a disabled 54 woman who can not work.  For the past 7 yrs I have not been able to work and until recently I was not receiving any disability for my medical problems.  My illness came on rather quickly and my husband had to provide everything and care for me with no questions.  If he were the one that was sick I would do the same for him.   

  

That guest who does not want to pay the medical bills for her husband,  is too selfish and self-absorbed.   She needs a reality check.  How would she feel if she suddenly got sick and could not do anything????  The question was Is This Normal???    NO!!!! It is not normal. 

  

Debi 

  

  

 
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October 26, 2005, 3:41 pm PDT

This is ridiculous!

Today's show was great but it showed me that most men are just not getting it.  I refer to the couple that are having a problem with oral sex.  I just about fell off my chair when I heard the husband state that she liked it before, and all of a sudden just decided that she did not like it.   

  

I was in the same situation.  I have been married for 29 years and when I was first married I was eager to please my husband and so I tried oral sex.  I did not like it at all, but I closed my eyes and did the task anyway.  After a few times I refused to do it anymore.  My husband could not understand what happen.  When I told him that I did not and never did like it, he could not understand.  That is why men and women are different.   

  

Men say things like well you did it before, so what now you lied or what>>>  that is not it guys.  Women change their minds and that is it.  What if your wife told you that you have to stand on your head to have sex with her.... could you do it????   Of course not, you would fall over.  I have found that over the years things change, like sex and intimacy.   

  

Please Dr. Phil, tell the guys that they are not being lied to when the wife changes her mind.  Men think of sex differently than women.  Maybe you should have a show about all the dumb things men say about sex,  like "if I don't get any right now, I will die"   or  "try it you will like it". 

  

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January 6, 2006, 10:49 am PST

Am I Cursed?? Maybe so...

This is the second time that I have tried to post this message.  I finished the first one and hit preview and the screen went blank, and my message was gone.  So here I go again, hopefully it will post this time. 

  

If you had asked me about curses, spirits, ghosts, witches, etc., 7 yrs ago I would have told you there was no such thing.  But of course I knew nothing at that time.  I was born in 1952 and immediately removed from my Native American parents, and adopted into a non-Native home and raised as a white person.  I grew into adulthood and met and married the greatest man, to whom I have been married all these years (nearly 30 yrs).  I worked hard and tried to have a normal and happy life.  At the age of 40, I decided that there was still something missing in my life, so I began a search for my real family.  Even after being gone for 40 yrs I decided to still look knowing that it could be a long journey.  Within 45 minutes I was talking to my oldest sister.   

  

I became comfortable with having so many new relatives, because there are over 4,000 of them.  I was sure that I was going to  finally be able to get to know my own family.  It was not until I was 48, in 1998, that we moved across the country to be nearer to my family.  Almost immediately I became very ill,  it was not until 4 yrs later that I was told that I have IBS, Acid Reflux, and PTSD.  Some of my relatives who noticed that I was always sick, told me that maybe someone from the other side was trying to take me there.   I thought to myself, yea right.  I was raised to believe that ghosts, spirits, witches, etc were just make believe and not real, usually characters at halloween.  As I discovered more about my family, I felt that I had always known them.  As the time passed, my husband and I opened an Espresso Coffee Shop and found that it was a great way to meet more of my cousins and relatives.   

  

One night two of my cousins stopped by and told me that they felt there was something wrong here and that someone was trying to harm me.  I knew this cousin was formerly the minister at the Lummi Shaker Church, and felt that he would not fool around with this kind of stuff.  They both immediately began brushing down the building outside and in.  My husband and I were standing inside at the end of the Espresso stand, about 16 feet away.  Suddenly my husband felt something rush by him and something slammed into me and knocked me to the floor, as if I had been tackled like in football.  My cousins ran to us and grabbed something.  To me it looked like they were fighting with an invisible person, and outside they went.  My husband picked me up and got me on my feet and breathing, when they came back inside.  Both of my cousins told me that I had been being attacked by a little old man from Canada who was living in my canned goods cabinet.  I was totally shocked.  Not at the little guy from Canada, not because I had ended up on the floor, but upset and mad that he was in my food cabinet.  My husband told me later that he could not understand why I was so mad about him being in the cabinet, after all he was not gonna eat anything without a can opener.  I looked at him and said, "can you see him??? how is he gonna use a can opener?"  Time passed and I began learning more about my own culture and found that it was part of the belief system of my ancestors.   

  

Awhile later my husband and I were living in an apartment and the guy that lived in the other apartment mentioned that he felt something was no right and was going to call the Shakers to come and clean the building out.  Clean?? I asked, why dont we just clean it??  He laughed and told me that we did not have the experience to get rid of the visitors from the other side.  Ok, I can go along with this, I thought.  The people from the church showed up and started praying and soon they were rushing around from room to room.  We were sitting in the middle of the room with others praying with us.  They dragged something out of our apartment and took it outside.  After the process was done, they came to us and told us that we had a little white haired woman in our apartment and that she had attatched herself to me.  The building did seem more positive and not so dark.  I thought ok, that was unusual, but ok. 

  

We kept moving forward with our life, I attended college at our tribal college and earned a degree with honors in environmental science.  So I am not unintelligent and believe that for everything there is a reason.  Both of these incidents happened and were witnessed by many others, so I am not imagining this. 

  

During Christmas this year my husband called his parents to wish them a Merry Christmas.  We had moved here 7 yrs ago and he was upset with his family and did not tell them where we were going.  Even though I tried to convince him to call and let his mom know where he was, he did not want to and did not call.  At Christmas this year his Dad told him that his mom had passed away on Jan 11, 2005, over 11 months prior to him calling.  I was upset that he was upset.  My mother in law and I had never gotten along, mainly because she blamed me for taking her son.  He was upset and when he calmed down a little while later he told me he was alright.   It was probably a week or so later that I woke up one morning with a severe pain in my back.  I had trouble trying to move around and thought I must have wrenched my back somehow.  I took Bayer aspirin and used my heating pad and I got worse.  After three days, my husband finally called me outside.  I hobbled out the door and found him standing with a branch from the cedar tree.  He began brushing me with the branch and with in 30 seconds I was jumping up and down and dancing around the yard.  I have not had a pain since.   

  

So Dr Phil????  how do you explain these things???  They are not in my head, I am not a negative person and have a good life.  I was a skeptic before but not anymore..... 

  

Debi

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January 6, 2006, 12:46 pm PST

Terri Please!!!! Get real!!

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To everyone who thinks that they are cursed: (as in bad luck stuff) 

  

You were born in the United States, one of the wealthiest countries in the world.  You have a home, food in your refrigerator, electricity, heat and/or air conditioning in your home, you have many changes of clothing, a job, a car and money to spend on useless items.  Go to another country, look at the people that have no food to eat, no job, no house, no change of clothes, no clean water to drink, no health care, no doctors to visit when they are sick.  And you complain because you had a bad day.  The people who live in poverty, thank God every day that they are alive to love and care for their families and friends.   

  

I think of the parents who sell their children for food, and you whine that you are cursed!  We are a greedy nation and want everything perfect.  Life is not perfect!!!! Life is what you make of it.  There are tradgedies and trials in life, that does not mean you are cursed.  You choose to look at the bad things in your life, not the good!  For people who are "cursed" with bad luck, change your attitude, look at the good things in your life, not the bad! 

  

As for being "cursed" in the evil spirit or in cases of possession, I do believe that can happen.  It doesn't happen every day, but evil is around us trying to turn us from God.  I believe you can open yourself up to evil and once you do it, you sort of fall into a dark way.  If you look in the Bible, it does talk about evil spirits, Jesus exorcised people who were possessed, He was even tempted by Satan himself, but Jesus turned away from temptation.  We, being imperfect, have a tendency to grap ahold of the temptation and run with it.  Then we find ourselves in trouble and then we cry that we are cursed.  YOU DID IT TO YOURSELF. 

  

Living in the light and walking in the path of faith is a tough road but well worth the struggle. 

  

so, these are my thoughts on being cursed.  I know that many people will feel differently but, to each his own.  So next time you get a flat tire, or have a bad day, thank God that you had that flat tire, because you could be living in a third world country deciding whether to sell your beloved child to someone so the rest of your family can eat or keep your child and watch your children starve to death. 

  

Thoughtfully submitted, 

  

Terri 

 

 

 

 

Hi Terri, 

  

I am sure that you are an intelligent and responsible person, but why do you have to leave this country to see any of the proverty you reffered to???  If you are an american an live in the United States, then you are severely mislead to think that everyone here has all the stuff you say we all have.   

  

Visit any Native American Indian reservation of which there are over 500 in the United States alone, and you will find proverty at it worse.  I should know I live there.  Poverty, suicide, murder, drugs, and a multitude of other evil things reside on the reservations.  We are America's biggest kept secret and even most Americans are unaware of the truth out here. 

  

So tell me about being poor, having no hope, being pushed down till you are already 12 feet under when you are born.  Come and visit, visit I say because there are very few who could survive out here and most probably yourself.  Take a chance though and check it out. 

  

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January 7, 2006, 4:13 pm PST

01/05 "Am I Cursed?"

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Dear Whispering Eagle, 

  

Firstly, I think you missed the point of what I was trying to get at, which is, stop, take a look at what you have and this country is very wealthy.  And now in reply to your statement of being poor, being a descendant of the Cherokee, which most of my dad's family still live in Oklahoma, at the end of the trail of tears, many of my dad'sfamily do live on a reservation.  Secondly, I have almost been homeless by the age of 5, my family had no food, and yes we were helped by people we didn't know and couldn't repay.  I know about hand-me-down clothes from other peoples children and I was happy to have "new clothes" from them.  I could survive poverty, alcoholism, physical abuse, I watched my mother beaten many times.  My mother, my sister and I had run away from a very bad abusive situation only to be found and brought back.  So, please, before you make a statement about being pushed down and not being able to survive, know the person you are speaking to before you put your foot in your mouth (so to speak).   

  

I am sorry that you took such a negative view of my thoughts, I was just trying to remind people, stop whining and take a look at all the good you have in your life.   

  

Sincerely, 

  

Terri  

Hi Terri, 

  

I think that this is the point where some give and take is needed so to speak.  In life I have often found that when two are at odds, sometimes strickness is not the best alternative.  I can see that you understand the environment on Native American reservations today.  I am extremely grateful for the compassion and sharing that I have experienced since my return home.   

  

I was not raised with my family, due to circumstances beyond my control.  I was born in 1952 and immediately taken from my Native American parents, because they were Indians.  I was then placed in a non-Native home and raised to be white.  I learned to live with the life that I had been placed in and did fairly well for myself.  Finally, at the age of 40 I broke the chains of adoption and began a search for my "real" family.  After thinking that this would be costly and may take a long time I prepared my self for that.  To my complete surprise I was talking to my oldest sister only 45 minutes later.  It was not until 1998, that my husband of 29+ years and I moved across the country to be closer to my family.  I have been spending the past 7+ yrs surviving and living with my relatives.  When we got here I had a job with the tribe, after all I had always had a job.  Not always had a place to live but always had a job.  Within three months I had become so ill that I was fired from my tribal job and my world turned upside down.   

  

Before coming home I have often thought I knew the meaning of words like: prejudice, hate, etc.  I had no idea, as most people who live in the cities do not have.  I could give you the defination of the words but to understand the pain and extreme anger, I had much to learn.  Over the past 7+ yrs my life has gone totally out to a zero income for an extended period of time, to a place now where I am better health wise.  Three years ago I was diagnosed with IBS, Acid Reflux, Digestive Disorders, and PTSD.  Today I do ok due to the small allotment from the SSDI.  I have also completed a degree in Environmental Science  with honors, from our tribal college.  I believe that we all can bounce back but some people do not have the courage or strength to try one more time.   

  

I appreciate your post and understand that the message you were sending.  I do agree that sometimes we get lost in our everyday lives and forget there is a world out there.  Maybe there is a way to disagree and agree at the same time.  I sorry if my message has caused you any offense. 

  

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January 7, 2006, 4:27 pm PST

Come On Dr. Phil!!!

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Hello Whispering Eagle, 

I just wanted to say that it is true we don't have to go too far to find extreme poverty in the US, but what I think Terri was saying is that we ( you and me, not our ancestors) are very lucky to live here.  We have a choice to pull ourselves out of poverty, I can give you many names of people that have done it in the US, one being Oprah herself.  I think that we as a society on the whole are so lucky to have freedoms that other countries could never even dream of!  #1 being freedom of religion, freedom of speech (although I believe some take too much liberty with this), and so so many others.  There are still places in this world that you can be killed for being a Christian, it's not something from yester-year, people are still be persecuted for what they believe.  I am just giving this example because I wear my faith out on my sleeves and am not ashamed to tell you about what I believe.  I am so glad I can tell you and not be harmed in the process. 

I have been to many reservations in my life, living in the midwest and traveling around the states you are bound to travel close to one or through one.  But I also have a sister-in-law, that is as close or even closer to me than my own sister, that is a eye doctor on one of these reservations.  I hear from her all the time about the depression she sees in people.  I know that this has come from a long line of mistrust of white people and from the terrible things we (my ancestors) did to you (your ancestors), but I also believe that everyone in this country has a choice to pick themselves up by their boot straps and live life to the fullest.  I am really trying not to sound insensitive, because I really don't want you to take this as any kind of maliciousness. 

I just feel that people in the US and Canada have so much more to live for than anyone else does in the world.  The US was founded on Godly principles and I believe it is our duty to the world to live our lives to be of service to those who are in need.  To whether it be someone in our own country that needs a helping hand or to those who are truely starving in the world for everything that we sometimes take for granted, whether it is governmental health care or the best doctor money could buy. 

I also want to challege Dr. Phil to see if he could help those who live on reservations.  I think he could do some good to bring this issue to the forefront, although it's probably another hot botton issue. 

Amy Jayne 

Hi Amy Jayne 

  

I like that challenge.  How can we let Dr Phil know about it???  I was thinking of him at a community meeting with some of my fellow tribal members,  most of whom I am related to.  And in the back of my mind I could see him standing in front of everyone and hear him saying "what were you thinking?"   

  

Come on Dr. Phil  Here is a real challenge!! 

  

I would like to share a joke that was going around out here after a few seasons of the the reality show "Survivor".  People out here were saying, "hey, I got the next survivor location: Survivor Indian Style".  The plan was to put a group of these people on a reservation like in the middle of the Navajo reservation and let them try to survive on govt commodities and handouts for a while.  It was quite a hoot and got many laughs, but of course it was a way  to cope with a situation that daily seems to be out of control for many people out here.   

  

Help is needed but not the cold heartless govt help, but something more compassionate, and caring.  Although I do not participate in the alcohol or the drugs or other illegal activities, I am concerned that people that I do not know yet are going to be gone too soon.  Do you know how long it takes to get to know over 4,000 relatives??? 

  

Whispering Eagle 

 
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May 22, 2006, 5:02 pm PDT

FAMILYWATCHDOG.US?????

Sorry, but the link that you have on the site for this place does not work.  I have went there and input my address and then I look and there is no button, no go, no continue, no way to send the information.  Here is the link that I used:  

   

http://www.familywatchdog.us/  

   

Could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong.  I would really like to be aware of any predators in my neighborhood.  As for the show. I was quite explicied and showed more than I wanted to know but may other need to understand, I understand now.  Thank you for presenting such a fantastic show that we need in this time of progress.  

   

Whispering Eagle  

   

   

 
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January 18, 2007, 3:45 pm PST

Give Me A Break!

The woman who said she was in love with the guy in prison for murder is totally a fraud.  She can only have a relationship with someone she can not have physically.  She said oh well he does not beat me.  What is with that????  She needs to get some really intense treatment and have someone tell her that this is the wrong guy! 

 

Why would anyone marry anyone that they can not ever be with or touch physically.  They can be married and safe but not have to actually be anyone's wife.  You can not possibly think that what you had was really love?? 

 

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January 29, 2007, 3:27 pm PST

Michelle Wake UP!!!!

This woman needs to wake up and understand what is happening, she has children for goodness sake.  She is not in a relationship, they have had sex three times since she got a NO contact order on him, and he drops her off at the airport......

 

 and she has no relationship with him???

 

I am confused, who is the one who needs help???  It sounds like the state should take the children now and put them in some better care, and that way if she gets herself killed they do not have to watch.  She definately needs to wake up.

 

Lummibeader

 

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