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June 19, 2008, 7:35 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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hesad " I've heard all of these things. I've heard the things that she's said to other people on the phone. I've read the letters and notes that she's said to other people, and the e-mails that she's written and the things that she's done. It doesn't give me the right to do it, but once you've found out that these things are happening behind your back, there's a question in the back of my head every time she does anything."she whas never  ask  about these  thing 's . what did she wright that pissed him off so bad that it get to this pont.

Though when he speaks of himself as being in Jeffrey's shoes as "there's a question in the back of my head every time she does anything."

 

I didn't see any letters & notes she wrote to anyone else who?  You mean while her husbands friend was molesting her in bed with their daughter there?  Or when Jeffrey wanted to bring home another woman as a gift to him for his birthday?  Or are you speaking about the women he'd been *proposing to* in front of everyone at the games?  hmmmm

 

 

abusers don't need a reason to abuse they just abuse & then find an excuse.........  but you know this.

 
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June 19, 2008, 7:37 pm PDT

05/11 Obsessive Love: On the Run

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wood you like to live like him  not know if you will see your kids be for your daed .he did tre to make her happy  but she was more in to makeing her friendy /co-work and her mother happy .all he herd was my kids/ my home/ my family/my life .he never herd our family ,kids and home .she did not see him as a part of her family  her husbend and father of  there kid's.to her it was all about fiding wath was wrong with him and not the good he did for tham.
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July 21, 2008, 2:20 pm PDT

ok so I missed the rerun

and I would give ANYTHING to know how things are going now!  There was a follow up show on this couple & they were going to be trying to get help etc. etc.  I was a bit taken aback that Dr. Phil would allow him to try to fool eveyrone this way.  narcissists will feed whatever they think you want to hear to "get away with it" & then turn things on the victim again.  Very manipulative.  Anyway I'd originallypredited that he'd have turned back around by like March or April but the follow up show was in April I think & Karen & hubby had actually come online & he was very insulted that people thought he was juust going through the motions to trick people (he didn't like me) .   I just want to hear that Karen is doing alright because she was determined to try to give him another chance and they had this "therapist" that was working with him.  I figured he'd be on his best behavior until the camera's were turned off & then he'd be back to his old self.  He apparently had a bunch of women at work telling him what he was too & this going on TV was in a way to tumb his nose at them too because he actually thought Dr. Phil would tell Karen she's over weight etc. etc. Last I'd heard they were trying to work it out which I found upsetting.  I'd love to know if she's still there & if so that things are better?
 

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