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September 12, 2005, 10:09 am PDT

09/09 Ask Dr. Phil and Follow-ups

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Considering all the silly directionless high school girls with low self-esteem we've seen on the Dr. Phil show (interestingly, he tries to get THEM to be more into school and hobbies), Brittney and her parents were quite refreshing. Here's a girl who's being challenged to use every bit of her brain and we feel the need to dumb her down to be like the rest of us. What is so valuable about makeup, boys, and extended telephone conversations? Isn't this when girls get socialized to make 60 cents for every dollar a man makes? I think Brittney's parents have done the right thing--I went to college when I was 16 and had I not, I probably would have dropped out of school I was so bored. I plan to do the same with my daughter. We start dumbing children (especially girls) down so early. It's sad. (But then of course we--even Dr. Phil--totally look up to the superstars of the world, the ones who weren't hanging out being "average" when they were young.) Instead of shopping for hoochie clothes when she's 19 this girl could be curing cancer. Why can't we just let her? There are plenty of brilliant advanced kids she could meet to socialize with--kids who would share her interests and be able to talk on her level. Her parents could send her to the Duke program or the Johns Hopkins program for the summer and she'd fit right in. Let's face it--not every child should be forced to hang out at the mall. I'm glad I wasn't!

Wow you've a pretty low opinion of the "average" person or your peers. Actually this is exactly the point Dr. Phil was trying to make. You're having trouble fitting in with your peers & don't have a clear picture of them.  Perhaps had you been intergrated with others your same age you'd have a better understanding of what & who they are and a better opinion of them. Then you'd understand that it isn't just about "makeup, boys and extended telephone conversations". I mean if you haven't been in and around your peers you're basing your opinions on people you really don't know & what you're seeing on television.  Having extremely smart students intergrated with kids who aren't at their level helps to pull the others up higher. I had the validvictorian in from of me at homeroom all 4 years of high school and we learned so much from one another I could write books on it. And yes socially he took away a LOT from me. He's now out in silicone Valley and doing extremely well despite him having to attend high school with the rest of us lower level people.  

There are many programs and ways to challenge a persons mind without pushing them into a place they may not be ready for emotionally or making what is their talent make them look "odd". My son attended many of the summer gifted programs at the same time as attending high school and of course is in honors classes.  

You asked if this is when girls are socialized to make 60 cents for every dollar a man makes & so I'm curious to know if you believe pushing a girl to college before she's emotionally ready to be there is going to have her making the same wage as a man. I mean you're smart so you must know the different in wages made isn't attitude, or ability, but their GENDER. Going to college earlier will not change that. I also found your post rather insulting to anyone considered "average" & I think that was another point about this girl knowing her IQ & how high it is. While we want to make a child understand their unique and talented etc. we wouldn't want her/him to look at people who are "average" to be beneath her either & you do seem to look your nose down at those not on your same intellectual level. I found your description of anyone that isn't of your intellect to be insulting & rude & these are the very social skills many parents worry about. That's what those lenghtly telephone calls teens have help to teach. When we lack social skills people often don't want to be around us & it can make for a very lonely and sad life. As a parent I of course want my sons to do well with academics but I also want to make sure they have the social skills needed so they don't end up out casts in society and/or in a lonely place in life.  

As far as your daughter I'm not sure how old she is or even how old you are but I must caution you that you wouldn't want to put expectations on her that she is unable to reach. Just because a parent has a talent does not always mean their child will have the same talent. She may just not have the ability to skip high school all together & while it may be frivolus I'm not sure I would not have wanted to miss my homecoming dances & proms. We can challenge ourselves & look to be high achievers but we can not get back missed experiences or our youth. There's more to life than academics and work to make us happy.  

 
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September 12, 2005, 12:09 pm PDT

09/09 Ask Dr. Phil and Follow-ups

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For lisam916.
See the subject line. :)

Yes, he was a loser, but it was all resulted in life lessons that have allowed me to be finally happy.  I shouldn't have given him all the chances I did, but I was beaten down, emotionally, verbally, and I was exhausted.  I let him slide because I was afraid of divorce, being alone, being unloved, unvalued.  Not that I had those things from him, but you can convince yourself of almost any rationalization if you're afraid enough.

 But I'm at peace now.  I know how to be happy.  I know how to value myself.  I'm worth soooo much more than he led me to believe all those years.  And in the obverse, he lives with his Mom, can't get a job, or an apartment, has warrants out in several states, and has lost all the sports things that he felt were worth lying, cheating, and stealing for.  Ka?  Karma?  Revenge?  Don't know.  It seems fitting however.

 Engaged to my 5th grade sweetheart and lifelong friend, own my own business -- I still don't have children, my largest regret and bitterest pain, but may adopt, and in the meantime I have the 4 footed kind. :)

Cheers!

 kim  

Kim,   

  

You're a riot!  Great web site BTW & what a great warning.  I really went there because I wanted to be able to see a better pic of you because I wasn't sure if I was seeing you well enough in this picture here.  I did get a glimpse of you over there & so now I can say with certainty that you look SO much better now.   What ever you've done you have taken years off yourself from those original pictures on Dr.Phil.   

  

Now with all that said I have to just tell you that I really did get a hoot out of your web site & the revenge you've gotten but you know just enjoying & living your life & it being as great as it is is revenge for your ex.  It's true what Dr. Phil said & while you're web site is great I hope at some point you can put this behind you because you don't want to let it turn to a bitterness that will eat at you & make you ill.   

  

Well once again a big thumbs up to you honey & on behalf of all the women who googled him & found out the truth etc. let me say "thanks for the warning & sparing them the heart ach".   

 
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September 12, 2005, 10:01 pm PDT

Are you serious?

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I am so frustrated with my mother in law. God love her (she helps watch my boys whenever i need her) but she has an addiction to yard sales and whatnot. Every weekend she is out bright and early to get the bargains. The problem? The woman has so much stuff that every room in her house is filled to the ceiling. She get something and bring it home and say "i dont know what i am going to do with this,but it was only 25 cents. Now dont get me wrong, i like to go every now and again but she is out there every weekend picking up boxes and boxes of things that she just doesnt need. My poor father in law is just as bad. He goes to the landfill and comes back with more that he took. They take my children with them sometimes and come back with loads of toys that they dont need so i make them keep the toys at grandma's lol. God forbid the day when something happens to them (hey its gonna happen to all of us one day) My husband and i are going to have a chore on our hands, I really shouldnt complain, It is something they enjoy and it makes them happy so i just keep my opinions to myself and let em go at it! :)
your in-laws are loving and involved grand parents & by the grace of God they're still here with you all to enjoy the kids but yet you'll still complain about something that makes them happy as being a "problem".  I just cannot belive how self centered & self serving people are.  I mean your concern for when they leave this earth isn't how much you'll miss them (or even concern for your children) but the "chore on our hands".  And you know I don't think you do keep your opinions to yourself I mean it's here on a message board for all the world to see.  With all that's gone on in the world I can't believe people are this self absorbed & ungrateful.   
 
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September 12, 2005, 10:11 pm PDT

08/30 "Get Rid of It!"

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Ok first let me begin by saying we live in a very small home, 2 bedrooms.  We have a one and a half year old son and a new son due here in just five weeks.  I am ready to get this place together but really don't know where to start and how to begin.  We need a much bigger place but are self-employed and the company truck will be paid off in a year and a half so we want to wait until we have the funds to really get what we want.  Things here seem to clutter so fast, one day clean next day a mess all over again.  I've been trashing stuff as fast as I can find it but at this point I'm getting a little tired and having trouble finding energy to do the everyday things.  So at this point I will take advice from anyone that is willing to give it, I mean ANYONE!  I don't want this place to be perfect just clutter free....So thanks ahead of time for any advice!!! 

 

-Aim 

Listen to the others & go to Flylady.com 
 
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September 12, 2005, 10:25 pm PDT

melissanem great paper topic

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I am a senior year college student(have  been working on this bachelors degree fro 25 years!) and will start the Ph.D program next year. I would like to do some work on the people/the rescuers of hurricanes. I had this idea last week and was glad to see you guys did something with it. 

I haven't been able to locate any peer-reviewed journal articles on this subject. Do you know of any published work? Is there any way I couldwork with you on this? 

Thank you for your time. 

Rather than look for your information on this actual heading "people/rescuers of hurricanes" maybe you should just look for the topics or subject of hurricanes or natural dissasters & see what information is given on the survivors with in the context of those journal articles or maybe you can get the names of particular hurricanes & go to articles on them.  I think 1 that was huge down in NO was named Carmel.  I might be spelling it incorrectly but this was of the same size of Katrina & I'd think there are articles on that one.  Good luck with the paper & congrats to you on sticking with your education.   
 
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September 13, 2005, 6:39 am PDT

Allison I agree

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My husband is a SGT. with La State Police and he needed to see this show today too know his long hours are being acknowledged.  We live in Lake Charles, La and were about 4 hrs from New Orleans. Half of our Troop D rotates weekly or every two weeks for our troopers to help in New Orleans.  There are also Troopers in New Orleans that have lost their homes. When my husband is not in N.O. working his at the Troop, so we haven't (me and our two young sons) seen much of him since the hurricane hit.  He is doing the job he loves.  But it has come with a price.  He too is mentally and emotionally exhausted to see what's going on New Orleans.  He has working with other officers from all parts of the USA.  This is their call to duty and they are proud to be there, even if it means very long hours with no running water to shower with and sleeping on cots, and away from their families weeks at a time. 

  

Thank you for today's show and please have more like this one.  The police get such a bad rap most of the time. 

  

Today's show gave my husband a boost to caring on. 

  

Allison 

Police do get a bad rap very often and I have to say that in my life police officers have done nothing but help & come to my aid when I needed them.  We often hear of the corrupt & so of course that's what everyone takes away that cops are corrupt etc.  I'm in the NYC/NJ area & the images of the crisis really does strike a cord with us.  There are many law enforcement officers as well as fire fighters & utility workers who ran to be part of the call to aid down there.  We remember well how people from down there came to our aid & yes you're right they are all proud to be able to return help.  People here were really touched by the out pouring during & after 9/11 & it had created such a feeling of unity that when this hurricane hit & there was a call for those up here it was like people up here couldn't help &/or get there fast enough.   

  

I'm glad to hear your husband found some inspiration in the show today & please relay that many are watching, know what a cop really risks & sacrafises & we're SO grateful to them all!  You're all in our thoughts & prayers.  

 
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September 13, 2005, 7:00 am PDT

hekneauxs why is this directed at me?

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 Thank God for a President, and Dr. Phil, and others who not only believe in prayer, but WILL PRAY in public, and PRAY to the name of God, instead of just standing in a moment of SILENCE. I do not believe that silence is the same thing as prayer - I think that Christians have every right to pray, anytime and anywhere, and for the minority that is against EVERYONE praying, well, let THEM stand in a moment of SILENCE, instead of a moment of prayer, and they had better be hoping (in silence) that all those who are one day allowed to pray again, had better be praying for those who do not believe in it!!!
There is RIGHT and wrong, and that is what we all need to go by, and not by WHO is right, and who is wrong. I do not believe that anyone has the right, to take away prayer from all of those who believe in its power, and I pray that the power of those who are still praying, hopefully more now than every, can change our world - into a better world, instead of one that is headed in the direction of hatred, evil, and so much wrongdoing. AMEN!!!

Where did I say in my post that I do not believe in prayer?  Where did it say that I don't believe in prayer in public & that I think it should be a moment of silence instead?  Where did I say that I don't believe in the power of prayer.  You're putting words in my mouth & you don't even know me.  In fact I think you meant to direct this post at the person I was answering and I think in her post she'd made a statment & she's left out a word.  I believe she said "the power of prayer never amazes me" & I believe she MEANT "the power of prayer never CEASES to amaze me".  Because I believe she was mentioning using prayer as a first defense for depression.  I agreed with her and I STILL do.  I went on to mention what helps me with my SAD or my seasonal disorder.     

   

It sounds to me like it's YOU that's filled with anger & hate & perhaps you should be praying for yourself for understanding, kindness & some empathy for your fellow man.  This is a time of crisis and having empathy to me would mean cutting people some slack right now when they make a typo on a bulliten board & not using it as a platform for your political &/or religious beliefs.     

 
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September 19, 2005, 1:31 pm PDT

You and your kids need help too!

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I'm a mother who was also abused as a child but the thing is I used to be a great mother.  I spent all the time in the world protecting my children from the outside world but then when the outside world became involved with me and my family.  People threating social services due to lack of money and such.  I became overly protective of how my children dress and behave to where I turned into the ugly screaming mother only to protect my children from turning into the neighborhood rats that we have around here.  I also feel that its not the mothers complete fault of lashing out.  Maybe she screams so loud so that her husband can hear and maybe just maybe he would like to become the disipliner.  Maybe she is tired of being the one all the time with kids stuck up her butt with mommy this and mommy that.  Why can't the man just simply say leave your mother alone.I've got it.  I think I've got the same disorder because I've noticed that no matter how much work I put into my family, my husband isn't accountable for any of it.  Sure he can introduce us when its good but when social services comes knocking on the door, he just has to point the finger at her and say," well she is with the children more, thats why they don't do anything and thats why they are scared of her."  Sure he can sit ther infront of dr. phil and say I want it to stop but I really don't think he does because he's living the easy life. You saw in the video how after all was said and done with the screaming and what not , he just left and said I can't deal with this right now.  Low and behold look who is still left with the cleaning and children.  True some women should have children but most of us didn't think we were going to be raising them alone and lets face it.  She is alone, even with him there, he doesn't help or else this wouldn't be an issue.  I'm just saying not to get mad at her because she doesn't have any control and maybe she should yell at him, but maybe what she needs is friends that can help and a husband that helps instead of blaming everything on her.

As a mother watching this show & then seeing all the posters here in shock & horror of this womans behavior & then to see you defend her or relate in a way where you are justifying her (&your behavior) it means you're in troube too.  Not only are you in trouble but so are your KIDS.  While everyone is sitting here wondering why the father didn't truely come to the rescue of his daughters (frankly I thought he was at a loss of what to do) you're wondering why he didn't come to the rescue of his wife?!  I'm a mom too & I understand how difficult it can be when we're raising kids & they don't always do the right thing & they don't always listen & they can have selective hearing, but they're not doing this to be mean to mom & mom doesn't need protection.  They're the kids & SHE'S the adult.  If she needs a time out then she should be grown up enough to realize it & take it period.  She shouldn't be waiting for anything.  When you said "look who's left behind" I thought you were going to say "the kids" but you're still seeing the mother in need.  The kids have been traumatized by this woman & yes he's walking away because that's how he DOES CONTROL himself.  That was his time out he gave himself.  An adult has to recognize it & then take it.  & in reality what I heard him say was "I can not deal with *you* right now".  He was not speaking of the situation with the kids he was talking about dealing with his wife's her of control anger.  With that said it wasn't her that was left with the kids & cleaning it was the KIDS that were left with HER & the CLEANING.  You didn't see that?  

  

I watched this father kooooo to his daughter to pry her out of a closet where she was sitting hyperventilating & then proceeding to toss her cookies & you think it isn't her complete fault or that she has no control?  Certainly she does but first she has to see she's got a problem & if your view is this distorted I believe you've got to see this too.  If social services are at your house perhaps it's a distorted view that prevents you from seeing that it isn't just because of a "lack of money & such"  Unless the such is you screaming & brow beating the kids.  I think what you need is to RUN not walk to the first therapist you can find & help sort out your problems.  If it's not really a anger management problem then you'll at least have someone to talk out what's on your mind.   & all that stuff about you protecting your kids from society I do understand, but if you're verbally & emotionally abusing them they need protection from you!    

 
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September 19, 2005, 1:53 pm PDT

writermom the question is what you'll do now?

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This program has hit home. I have been that woman and those have been my kids. I know that I'm out of control at times. Each time it gets a little worse, until I can't even stand myself. My children have lived in fear of me and I wanted them to because I thought that THAT was the only way to gain respect in authority. 

  

Now that you are totally angry with me, please let me say...I don't like what I've done. I don't like what I've seen. Watching that program and those dear children's sorrow, broke my heart. I don't want to be MONSTER MOM. I love my children and it's time I show that love in place of the anger.  

And for others out there, who know where I'm coming from...just because we are big and they are little is no reason to bully our children into submission. I see myself in Michelle. This is my wake up call. I'm contacting a counselor. My children are too precious not to. 

I don't believe there is anyone who is perfect & in reality we've all done things that aren't right & without maybe even realizing it hurt someone.  But when we have that (as Oprah calls it) light bulb moment & we "realize" that's when it's really up to us to make a choice.  Frankly I believe "seeing it" & admitting it is the first step because then you know you have to do something & so you've already begun to "own it".   

  

I remember years ago my husband & I had made one of those steps up to a new house.  It was so much BIGGER than my prvious house & I wanted it to of course look "just perfect" but it was a real job with twin boys who were 3 yrs. old.  My sons were well behaved for the most part & I never went anywhere were I didn't get compliments on how well they behaved & listened so this wasn't a problem but of course as kids will do they made messes etc.  In the new house it was so hard to keep up & I guess with out realizing it I was always yelling after the move.  I was so angry one afternoon because I'd been cleaning all day & they'd pulled toys out all over & etc. etc. & so I was telling them what I thought when my son said to me "Mommy why do you always yell at us now?  I love you & it makes me feel bad you're mad at us".   Well here he was this little guy pleading with me to explain to him in a way I would have prior to this house what was up & what was happening.  I told him "You know what?  I think your mom is just a little too serious about this house looking perfect & I think I'm just turning into a huge crab apple.  See even adults make mistakes & I'm really sorry honey.  Lets go play outside in the snow."  & it was a light bulb moment where I realized when I die I don't really care what is said about my house keeping, but I do care about what my kids & family will remember when they think of how I loved & treated them.  

  

See even us adults make mistakes & kids need to see that we do & what a *sincere* apology is & how we rectify our mistakes.  Good for you for taking the action you are.  You'll teach them so much more than you'll ever know.   

 
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September 19, 2005, 2:01 pm PDT

wow what an impact

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 Of what that kind of anger is like.    But I do.   I live with it every day.   Sorry.  I feel more sorry for the mother than I do the kids.

Now you can see from Dr. Phil's reaction & everyone else here that you've got some real problems & you need to see a professional.  I understand if you're dealing with the residule effects of abuse from your own childhood that you may be raging but you're an adult now & you've got choices & options.  The kids DO NOT.  How can you feel more sorry for this mother than the kids who are sitting ducks?  You said "you don't know what that kind of anger is like" but her kids do though don't they?  Or they know what it's like to have it lavished on them.  Is that what you do too?  Do you feel more empathy for yourself than your kids?  

  

The best part of this show is that all those that come here feeling as you do & being abusive to their kids can see & then do something about it.  You're an adult you can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.  

 

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