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July 9, 2008, 7:49 pm PDT

07/09 Newlywed Bank Robbers

Quote From: barb501

I am a parent of my only son going to prison 11years ago of a similar situation.  He was sentenced to 5 to 10 years at the age of 19.  He served only 2 1/2 years.  He went into a small grocery store/service station with an older man and robbed an elderly woman at gun point.  To this day I still cannot believe my son did this.  But he did.  And we too were not aware anything was going on.  He was ditching computer school, then once he left school, he wouldn't keep a job.  We went to many services looking and begging for help for our son's behavior, but we were over and over turned down for help!  We were told he was over 18 and we had NO RIGHT to do anything.  He was an adult.  My son was diagnosed with ADD in 3rd grade.  He had few friends and was very niave also.  He fell in love with a 14 year old. And that is when the trouble began.  We too stood by our son's side through it all.  It was the hardest thing for me to leave him at the prison for our first visit.  Prison changed who my son was.  To this very day, it has been a difficult journey for our son. He can't find a job to support his family.  And when he does find one, he has trouble keeping one.  Until you go through something like this with your child, you can not understand what it does to the family.   Let alone that your child is in prison with murderers, rapists, child molesters, and worse.  My son deserved to be punished for his bad choices, but these parents won't sleep at night.  I didn't.  My son won't talk about what went on in prison.  All I know is that he will never be the same!  Don't condemm the parents, Dr. Phil and society!!  We do the best we can. Social Services let us down when we did try to get help!!!  My best go out to her parents.  And my prayers will be with them too!!   What these kids do is very wrong.  They do deserve to be punished.  But prison I feel is not always the answer.   Just a parent!!!!!!

    Seeing your child go to prison is truly awful.  I suppose it was her parents who needed some firm guidance.  They sounded as if they truly believed there was a possibility that the judge would give dear, sweet, innocent little Kylee probation.  They needed to know that Kylee belonged in the penitentiary with the other criminals.
 
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July 10, 2008, 7:02 am PDT

07/09 Newlywed Bank Robbers

Quote From: singingal8

You realize judges are completely devoted to their cases.  They study every angle and understand the case in its entirety!   What do you know?!  The bits and pieces you saw on an hour of television.  Judges get the "I was just scared into it" bit alot and they can tell when someone is faking it and when someone isn't.  The judge thought that too much time would turn Kylee into a criminal rather than fix her, so trust his judgment!!  I'm not saying what she did is right, but she was punished properly and now she is starting to turn her life around.  If you would rather over-populate prisons with people like Kylee than murderers then you have a twisted sense of values.  And Kylee DID know it was wrong!  You try having your husband who is big enough to do some serious damage, show you a gun and raise his hand to you, and you both being on drugs, you would probably do it too.

   I believe the judge sentenced Kylee appropriately.   Kylee is a crimial, and she needs to serve her time.  t I agree 20 years for a first offense would be excessive.

    Kylee is not Patty Heast.  (If that case happened before your time, 19-year-old Patty was kidnapped at gunpoint by a bunch of Marxist ranting, gun toting thugs.  She was kept in closet for 30 days before she lost her mind and became one of them.  She was captured the following year, tried and convicted of armed robbery,   She served her time.  President Carter granted her a pardon)  

 
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September 20, 2008, 7:05 am PDT

I teach--you learn

Quote From: domshell

Your not a teacher obviously.  I am a teacher in the inner city and let me tell you something I have students not all, whom are gangsters, molesters, drug dealers, drug users, who try to intimidate me, hit me, spit on me, and threaten me, get in my face and tell me what I am going to do.  You don't want us teachers carrying guns regardless what neighborhood were in any more.  While Administration sit back in their newly decorated and posh offices we are fighting a daily battle in the classrooms and then have to meet the no child left behind acts and policies and regulations.  Whomever you are if you were faced with these conditions daily I don't think you would agree with teachers having guns either I guarantee someone will slip up.  Remember teachers are human and we don't always make the best choices.  More armed security. 

    Remember that basic principle from from Karate Kid?  "No questions." I suppose it would be much easier teaching if the gangsters weren't forced to be there also.  If they don't want to follow the rules, they should be expelled. 

    Teaching is difficult enough.  I believe all students need the responisibilty of participating in their own education.  (Education isn't something that falls down from the ceiling)  

 

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