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October 7, 2005, 2:52 pm PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

I'm really surprised at how many people seem to be grossed out and offended by breastfeeding in public.  The woman on the show kept using the argument ... 'it's not attractive'.  Well, I'd much rather see a woman breastfeeding her child than all the fat bellies hanging over their low-rise jeans that seem to be everywhere you look!  Talk about not attractive.  If we sent all 'unattractive' things out of the room for fear of offending someone ... the room would be empty!  With all the other 'unattractive' and 'offensive' things in our society, I can't believe this is even an issue!   

 
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October 7, 2005, 5:54 pm PDT

Where do I look?

Quote From: lovinvegas

As a mother who breastfed her first child, and will do so again when my second is born next month, I cannot understand these women who insist that all breastfeeding women feel as they do, that it is their right anytime anywhere, don't care what anyone else thinks.  I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE!!   

Why are they making this such an issue?  What is wrong with being discreet?  Want to breastfeed in public?  Fine, but please be discreet about it.  Cover your breast, please.  

You argue it's a natural thing, and a bonding moment.  I agree.  But guess what?  Not everyone is bonding with you, and it's a PRIVATE MOMENT between yourself and your child.  I think it's quite selfish to assume that everyone around you wants to share in your bonding moment.  AND, I don't need to look at your boobs!  Look away you say?  Where do I look?  I don't walk into Olive Garden or Starbucks and expect nor want to see a woman breastfeeding in the middle of the room.   

I am always still amazed when I see a woman breastfeeding in a very public place, and it still makes me mad.  I feel some of these women need something to argue about, they need to make a statement, and it's more about that then actually about how natural or nurturing it is. 

Ladies, it can be done discreetly in public, so why don't you just cover yourself?  Seems to me it is an attention issue for many.  That is what makes me so angry, not the act itself, but the mother's insistance that everyone be comfortable with her choice and her body.  Very selfish. 

When you see a woman breastfeeding in a restaurant and you wonder where to look .... ummm, how about the same place you look when you see someone slurping their soup, or when you see a couple fighting, or when you see a extra large person downing a cheeseburger, fries, and super sized coke.  It's very simple to turn your head.   

 
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October 7, 2005, 6:02 pm PDT

So Sad!

Quote From: rebecca5

If you have young children needing to breast feed I have two suggestions for you. 

  

1) LEAVE THE PUBLIC PLACE YOU ARE IN, no one wants a free peep show with some kid attached. If you can't leave than..... 

  

2)USE A BREAST PUMP AND BOTTLE FEED IN PUBLIC 

  

Part of having a child is being prepared to take on responsibilites. If you are not prepared to take other's feelings, regarding this subject, into consideration then I don't think you are prepared to take on motherhood.  

  

If you go out to a nice meal or head to the shopping mall and you know your child is going to be hungry....BE PREPARED.  

  

I was at a local restuarunt with my boyfriend, when the lady at the table next to us pops out her boob and little Johnny starts sucking away. I was SO offended! I AM EATING!!! It's disguiting!! If you need to go out to eat with the family again....BE PREPARED. Or go to a child friendly restaraunt or get a sitter!!! 

  

I am sick of seeing it and there is no reason to have to do it in public. Thats what breast pumps are for....Stop making others uncomfortable. 

It's a shame that we, as women, can't support each other.  You will one day know what it means to love a baby so much that you're willing to 'offend' a stranger by feeding it. 
 
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October 7, 2005, 6:11 pm PDT

"It's not attractive"

Quote From: shellyee

Since everyone keeps calling me that girl, although my name is Shelly. I figured I better post here because my point if view is being seriously corrupted ny other other posters on this board. My very first sentence when I spoke was "I am not against breastfeeding at all". Therefore, I do not long lectures on the benefits of breastfeeding, or how natural it is. I have a full education and I am totally aware. The point I very clearly made, and Saynorra did not, was have some basic consideration for other human beings feelings. She said point blank that she does not care, and I am sorry to say that that is a very prominant attitude here in American- it's all about me, and the rest of you be damned. Very sad. 

  

Someone here made the point of public displays of affection. Ok, if you were in a restaurant and a couple was getting carried away at a table, wouldn't you at least wish they had the consideration to respect the feelings of other people around them rather than make everyone uncomfortable? Braver souls might even send a host over to ask them to stop, or speak up themselves.  

  

The simple fact is that you don't HAVE TO make a public display out of yourself. I know that there are times in life that you would like people to be more considerate of you (for whatever reason), but if your attitude is that you never have to, then don't ever expect anything in return.  

I think the point you (unfortunately) made was that breastfeeding in public wasn't 'attractive'.  That is very sad.  Who ever said it was an issue of attractiveness? How many fat bellies do you see hanging over their low rise jeans in a day?  Is that attractive? Should they all go to the bathroom to eat their lunch? I hope that you will one day have a baby of your own and realize what it means to love something so much that you are willing to be unattractive.
 
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October 9, 2005, 12:28 pm PDT

not that easy

Quote From: slynn0514

OK THIS COMMING FROM SOMEONE WITH NO CHILDREN.... THIS WOULD BE WHAT I WAS SCREAMING AT THE TV TODAY...  WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM WITH USING A BREAST PUMP AND TAKING A FEW BOTTLES WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO OUT??  I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT... 
That would be the ideal situation, but some babies (mine) refuse a bottle ... absolutely will not take it ... believe me I've tried!
 
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October 9, 2005, 12:43 pm PDT

I'm so confused

Quote From: iluvdrphil

I totally agree with you! Have some consideration for the people around you trying to eat.
Out of curiosity, why are you so focussed on the people around you at a restaurant? How about focussing on ther person you're with and what's going on at your own table?  It's not like a nursing mother has plopped herself in your lap.  I mean how close could a woman breastfeeding her child actually be to be so offensive to you?  I never even notice other people at a restaurant.  Seriously, why in the world are women so unsupportive of each other?  I think women should be as discreet as possible (and the majority are), but with all the GARBAGE we are bombarded with on a daily basis, how is breastfeeding considered offensive? It's probably the most innocent, loving and nurturing things we can do!!!
 
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October 9, 2005, 1:52 pm PDT

FYI

Quote From: macdale

NO I am sorry i dont, but will tell you that if you work then you will be able to afford one!
Not all babies will take a bottle (mine).  Trust me, I tried ... hard!  Unless you've had a child of your own, you couldn't possibly know about this little issue called 'nipple confusion' ... probably more information than you want, but there are reasons why pumping isn't as easy as you might think.
 
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October 9, 2005, 2:14 pm PDT

NOT ALL BABIES TAKE BOTTLES!!!

Quote From: cathyhod

AS OTHER READERS SUGGESTED, EXPRESSING YOUR MILK IS A REASONABLE OPTION AND TAKES THE FLASH OUT OF THIS DEBATE.  DISCRETION IS STILL THE BEST IN A SOCIETY WHERE THERE ARE MANY NEEDS, NOT JUST YOURS OR YOUR BABIES.  WHY ARE THE REASONABLE SUGGESTIONS OVERLOOKED BY B/F MOMS??  JUST CURIOUS

I tried very hard ... for months ...  and my baby absolutely refused to take a bottle.  It's not as easy as you think to just express milk. There is this little issue called nipple confusion where babies get confused going between breast and bottle.   Please try to consider that there are reasons people do what they do ... not simply 'overlooking reasonable suggestions'.   I hated breastfeeding in public and was as discreet as possible when I had to, but I think we need to try and support each other as women.  It's hard enough being a mom without all of this added stress of possibly offending everyone by feeding your child.  Would you rather the screaming?  Trust me, I was a professional woman before having children and I felt the same way a lot of people on these boards do ... but until you have children, you couldn't possibly understand.  I never in a MILLION years thought I'd be nursing a baby on a part bench!!!!! 

 
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October 9, 2005, 5:09 pm PDT

I think you have the wrong person .???

Quote From: macdale

For your information I am the PROUD mother of three very smart, beautiful healthy children, and guess what?? they WERE NOT BREASTFEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  So if you dont like what i have to say then DONT READ IT!   

  

Oh by the way, look harder, it is not that expensive to buy a pump!  I did my research for you!   

I have plenty of friends that have pumped, and they seem to say the total opposite of what your saying!  It is not brain surgery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I'm sorry ... I'm not the one who said the pump was too expensive.  I think you're referring to someone else's remarks.  All I'm saying is that some babies refuse bottles because of nipple confusion.  There really is not reason to get so upset with all of the !!!!!!  I wasn't trying to upset you, just clarify that there are some people (like me) who tried very hard to give bottles in public ... just didn't work.  I hated breastfeeding in public and tried to NEVER have to.  I just wish that we, as women, would support each other a little more.  Since you have children, you know how hard parenting is ... breastfeeding or not.  Sorry for the confusion.
 
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October 10, 2005, 6:49 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

Quote From: shellyee

Why, because I made an acurate statement that you have no appropriate response for? Or, because rather than speaking like grown ups I have been called ugly, stupid, a sexual deviant, pervert, uneducated, inhuman, ......etc?  

  

Even Dr. Phil didn't like Synorra saying it was her right to impose her will on to everybody else, and he had nothing to say to me. I am sorry you are all having issue with that. Maybe it is something you should think on, though. 

Shelly, I've been reading these message boards for days now and I'm really surprised how heated it has all gotten (including me).  I hope you read this message because I was a working professional before I had children.  I can assure you that I felt very similar to you and never in a MILLION years even considered the issue of breastfeeding or not.  Well, got married, had a baby and it all changed.  I hated breastfeeding in public ... and tried very hard not to ... and when I did, I tried to be as discreet as possible (which I know is your point).  It has come up all over the place to just pump and give the baby a bottle .... I tried that for months.  My picky little one absolutely REFUSED to take a bottle.  It was difficult in ways you can't imagine ... not just breastfeeding in public, but getting a babysitter, etc.  Anyway, my point is ... we, as women, should be supporting each other!  We should not be attacking each other over an issue of feeding your child.  Yes, there are some women who go to the extreme, but really they are few and far between.  There are people that go to the extremes with EVERYTHING.  Seriously, we are bombarded on a daily basis with absolute GARBAGE.  Nursing your baby really is as innocent as you can get ... nothing dirty or obscene about it.  Please try to be more understanding.  I can assure you, most women never dreamed they'd be breastfeeding on a park bench (me), but sure enough ... that little one starts screaming and all of a sudden you're doing whatever it takes!!!!  Listening to the screaming is worse ... trust me.
 

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