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October 15, 2006, 9:30 am PDT

All Good Thoughts But (for believers only)

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I understand why the attorney would say that she is too pretty to go to jail because in jail child molesters are on the lowest of the low of the pecking order. Being too pretty is not really the issue, although he made it sound that way.  Because of course he doesn't want to admit out loud that she is a child molester.

 

Now about Debra having sex with a kid, yes that is wrong and yes she is a child molester.   The real damage that has been done has to do with the fact that God has ordained sexual relations to be between a man and a woman that are married.  We are not to have pre-marital sex.  Why? Is God a kill-joy? absolutely not!  He created us and He created sex to bond us together, sex is an intimate act or so it should be and that is why God created it to be shared with someone that we already have a committment to, ie marriage.  And since you can't marry a child lawfully in California Debra already knew she should not have sex with the boy.

 

Debra LaFave took advantage of this child, took something from him that God ordained to be a gift that he would someday give to his wife.  She has taken his innocence and treated him like a sex object.  She was not married to him and she couldn't be married to him because he is a child.  She is no different than any person who has sex with someone outside of marriage, God calls these people adulterers, fornicators and the sexually immoral.  God knows that having sex is a powerful feeling and He knows that if you have sex outside of marriage it can create feelings that you are in love with the person because that is what God designed sex to do.  When Debra had sex with this child it bonded her to him, she no longer saw him as a child, but as someone she was in love with.  All logical reasoning went out the door.  If she had the mindset that I cannot have sexual relations until I am married, then her logical reasoning would have kicked in like:  he's only a child, how will this affect his future relationships with women or his wife to be someday, I have a responsibility to lead him into responsible manhood, to show him what real love is,  to honor him as a person, to respect him, to show him how to have respectful boundaries with a person of the opposite sex.  But she didn't do any of that.  She knew what she was doingwas wrong, but she didn't listen to her conscience and now she is trying to backpeddle and come up with all kinds of ridiculous reasons why she did what she did.  And the worst part is that she has a lawyer defending her and giving her more bogus reasons to justify her actions, shame on both of them!

 

Debra LaFave broke the law and she should be punished for it.  More importanly she has scarred this young man for life, this experience will taint all of his future relationships with women and how he treats women.  She should do jail time just like any convicted child molester and she should be registered as a sex offender.  Should we feel sorry for her, yes, she is very very very lost.  Does God still love her, ABSOLUTELY YES!  Does He love her sin, ABSOLUTELY NOT!.  I pray that Debra LaFave gets the help she needs to understand the seriousness of this sin.  Is there hope for this situation, yes.  God can take any messed up life and turn it around, He can take the worst of the worst and give them real life. 

 

We have laws in this country and God tells us to respect the authority of the land if it does not contradict His word.  Debra LaFave should not be on house arrest she should be in prison!  where all the other child molesters are, she should not get special treatment.  The fact that she is on house arrest is God protecting her, nothing more and nothing less.  Debra LaFave I pray that you will listen to that still small voice in your head (God calls it your conscience) He is speaking to you. Listen to Him. 

 

Lord I am heartbroken about this situation, Lord I want to lift up the young man who is affected by all of this and ask that you heal his heart and mind about being used, he may not see it that way at this point because he himself may not even know you.  But Lord I ask that you use this situation to soften his heart and prepare his heart to come to you and accept you as his Savior.  Lord I ask that you speak to Debra and use this to soften her heart and show her that she needs you and you want to heal her and restore her life to what it should be I ask these things in Jesus name Amen

 

 

Just as your info was meant to provide nothing but good, I have faith that you will give me the same respect. God also says that he will deal with the unbeliever, if this person doesn't have a relationship with God you are wasting your breath and actually stepping on God's toes at the same time by trying to do his job. (1 corin. 5, 11-13)  and this also affects your prayer also. God will only answer the prayer of a believer and the prayer must glorify him, so a personal relationship with God has to be established first and this takes the participation of the person themselves. Be very careful on this point, on one hand your life will get easier because the whole world wont rely on your prayer, just you and the people that ask you to pray for them ( look up healing prayer in John), I have faith that your intentions are pure but so was Job's.  The last thing that Job did before God took everything from him was pray for his sons because they might have sinned, when we do this we become judgemental  especially to the unbeliever.  (Job 1, 1-6)  With Love in my heart I say these things, to keep the focus on Jesus and his message (LOVE), If you are a true unbeliever and are still reading this, get to know Jesus, he wants to know you but you have to make the first move. 

 
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September 22, 2007, 12:24 pm PDT

I try to look at everything as being normal

I been fighting chest pain anxiety for almost five years now, the causes of this problem are infinite so I wont burden you with my problems, but I believe there are some solutions that can help all of us.  At least these have been good thoughts for me and I hope they can help you.

  Number one get right with your God, put God number one in your life, to me if someone else's opinion of me is causing me anxiety, I picture that I am actually putting that person on a pedestal higher than God.  If that's not enough to motivate you, another way of putting this is that it is actually arrogant to think that that  person is actually thinking about you for any length of time.  Like Dr. Phil says they can kill you but they can't eat you,   which leads me to the base of what I think is the root of many if not all of these reactions.  It's normal to feel uncomfortable when we feel we are being singled out, don't you think this goes back to self preservation.   Picture a pack of wolves on the hunt, would you feel more comfortable out in the open by your self or on the middle of a stage or in the middle of a large group of people.  If you didn't have this little memory card in your brain that reminded you of that past painful situation, you would have a higher chance of getting hurt again. This is another reason I think that this reaction is absolutely normal, if not to a small degree intelligent. Imagine touching a boiling pot of water and not remembering that it burned you, I think this God's way of culling the herd (lol).  Don't feel bad about it, it's normal to feel this way, you would be stupid not to remember past pain.  Just don't let people that have hurt you in the past continue to hurt you by taking joy from your life, file these people in slot 13 were they belong. 

 

Again I said that this has worked for me, by making the anxiety the result of being arrogant and me not caring for arrogant people, it has made it easier for me to get a handle on the choices I was making.  Turn it in to whatever you have to, to make your self loath the reaction, whether it's arrogant or weak or whatever. 

 

Deep breathing also helps, I think sometimes I get so focused on what I'm doing that I stop breathing, which leads to chest pain pretty quickly.  The good thing about this is that all I have to do is take a few deep breaths and the pain goes away just as fast as it started.  I think this is why exercise is so helpful, if you exercise hard, you can take deeper breaths.  Which deeper breathing becomes more of a habit, the more you do the exercise to increase your lung capacity, the better you can breath.  This may be a simple reason why most of these reactions get worse as we get older because of the decrease of the exercise which leads to decrease breathing. 

 

Lastly eat a balanced meal and stay hydrated also, uneven blood sugar and dehydration are never a good thing.

 

 

 
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November 10, 2007, 7:38 pm PST

Simple answer for the simple minds

This is so not about race, it's all about power, and it's always going to be this way.  Heck I've heard white little old ladies put down other white little old ladies, just because they lived on the opposite side of a subdivision.  I've also heard light skin blacks make fun of dark skin blacks, heck Rick James called Eddie Murphy Darkness on national television. These obvious physical differences in people only provide fuel for the simple minded, so they can put you down to feel better about themselves.  Now you can completely remove racism from your life once and for all, but it takes a little reverse psychology.  When someone's opinion of me causes me pain, then I believe I might as well be their Ni**ER.  Don't you think if some racist knew that they could hurt us with words, that this would only fuel their use of the stupid remarks even further.  To me this actually comes off as a compliment to the racist, the fact that people care what they are saying is completely asinine to me.  Don't give away your anger so easily, show them how unimportant they really are, treat them as you would any other idiot on the street.  Racism is like any other moral trap, don't fall in it.  If you saw someone drinking to excess would you go drink with them to help prove them wrong, of course not.  Turn and leave them behind, if they follow then you can help them otherwise I would let them find their own way out of this pervasive trap.

 

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November 11, 2007, 12:57 pm PST

Sorry I just found the reply

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How am I trying to do God's job? The passage you are referring to states " 1 Cor 5:11-13 But now I have written to you to not keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner--not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside?  Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges.  Therefore, "put away from yourselves the evil person. 

 

Yes, He will deal with the unbeliever I realize that.  What I wanted to convey to anyone that read my message was that the "world" wants to call sin something else than sin.  For example, people will call a person who drinks excessively an alcoholic and refer to their condition as a disease.  The disease that we all have is called sin and people try to rationalize their sin and give their sin other names.  The point I wanted to make is---let's call sin what it is-- sin, let's not package it any other form.  Debra LaFave sinned against that boy, most likely to have committed such a sin as that and to have the comments that she had about the sin makes me think that she is an unbeliever.  I am not judging her I am pointing out what she did and calling it what it is---sin.  If I was judging her I would be saying things like, she is a rotten so and so and should be locked away forever, but I am not saying that I am saying she sinned and wanting people to know how God views our sin.  That is why I prayed for her and her salvation.  Now if she is a believer than you know that she is in a worse condition than if she was an unbeliever and still I would pray for her.  I don't know the condition of her heart, only God does. 

 

I am not wasting my breath, in God's eyes nothing is wasted, He uses everything to bring others to Him.  I know... I used to be one of those who was against Him, as you might have been also.  And yes, God does answer prayers of those who don't know Him.  When I was not a Christian, a believer, God did answer my prayers.  The only problem was that I didn't know I was praying to Jesus nor did I acknowledge that He was the one answering my prayers.  It wasn't until I came to know Jesus that He showed me that He had indeed been the one answering my prayers. 

 

Are you saying that I have to a believer before God will answer my prayer or are you saying that the person I am praying for has to be a believer?  If you are saying this then why would we ever pray for anyone that is not a believer? 

 

Please elaborate on your point beginning with "Be very careful on this point....are pure but so was Job's?  The last thing Job did was pray for his sons because they might have sinned has nothing to do with Job being judgmental, He is simply covering his sons in prayer like any good parent does.  God didn't take everything away from Job, He allowed Satan to take it away.  There is a difference.  If God had taken everything from Job it would have been because Job was not right with God, but God allowed Satan to sift him like wheat and take everything from Job to show Satan that Job did love God, not for what God provided but just because he loved Him.  In the process of all that happened to Job, he was judged by his closest friends, even his own wife told him to curse God and die, but Job never did do that. Yes Job questioned God and wanted to know why God was doing this to him and Job learned much about God's character through this trial, but at no time was God punishing Job for  "possibly" judging his son's who might have been unbelievers.

 

I know it is not my place to judge her, I am calling attention to what she did and calling it what God calls it and that is sin, that is simply what my point is.  To an unbeliever anything you say about sin is considered judging, why you don't even have to mention sin, all you have to mention is the name of Jesus in your conversation and they think you are judgmental. 

 

Are you asking me if I am an unbeliever? or are you talking to audience in general who may read your quote?  I myself am a believer.   

 

I enjoyed reading your quote and thank you for taking the time to respond with your views.  May we sharpen each other as iron sharpens iron. 

Yes I put the believer thing in there in case there were non believers reading the post, I too have been taught that the lesson of Job was that he never gave up on God, no matter how bad his life became.  I just think there is more in the lesson of Job. I have been studying how to pray as instructed in the Bible for some time, so please walk through this with me so you will know how I came to this conclusion in my life.  Most people think that if they ask for something in the name of God, as long as God is mentioned in the Prayer then their prayer should be answered.  They forget or don't know that in the name of God means that the prayer must glorify God and his mission of Love.  Prayer also speaks to healing in the Bible, but the first requirement is the person themselves asking the church to pray for them so they could be healed.  So to me a prayer has to glorify God and if healing is involved it must have the personal involvement of the person for the answers to be revealed to them. 

 

 All I was saying is if someone doesn't even believe in God in the first place, it is going to be a pretty long shot for them to believe what the definition of sin is coming from someone they disagree with to begin with anyway.  I guess it is a question of order, I just like to make sure I'm dealing with a believer in Christ before  I start debating what is and is not sin.  It just seems to work better for me, that's all, pray for them to know the glory of Christ and go from there.  I enjoyed your post as well.  Peace   

 
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November 27, 2007, 8:07 pm PST

OMG

I feel so sorry for these people, they act like there in middle school, I'm surprised that one of them didn't threaten to hold their breath until they got their way.  Look you forgive people because your not perfect.  To withhold forgiveness is like telling the world that your perfect, you don't forgive people because they deserve to be forgiven, you forgive them because you deserve to be forgiven.     Peace
 
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June 25, 2008, 7:23 am PDT

I agree completly

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If Jay was man enough he could stand on his own feet and tell his mother to back off it is his life and tell his wife to shut her mouth his family will always be welcome in his life.  Get use to it!!

But he seems to like hiding behind someone and being a parrot. 

I do think this marriage doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of lasting.  Since Jay needs someone to make all the decisions in his life, guess where he will be running back to.

These people are idiots,  it's like watching a bunch of 2 year olds, I'm surprised they didn't threaten to hold their breath until one of them got their way.  If my mother or my kids acted like this I would say good riddance, life's too short to be friends with self absorbed people. It's good to have self esteem but these relationships take it to the extreme, and the people in the audience all seemed to have a huge chip on their shoulder, I promise you that your not as awesome as you think you are.  In fact you all came across a little crazy and snotty, OH I'm just setting the record straight as you say.  Take chill pill and Love one another.
 
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September 22, 2008, 8:59 am PDT

Another issue

I can see where race can always be brought up on any issue concerning the media, but you have to remember that the news and this show for that matter is still a money making business and when you only make up 10 to 15 percent  or less of any market,  you  will not get the medias attention compared to someone that makes up 75 to 85 percent of a market.  Until we can skip over the color of our skin and our gender or what ever else people use to separate or validate our  thinking and see other people as human beings, this will always be an issue.  

 

 This issue will come down to the same issue it always comes down to, was the child wanted by anybody with money that's willing to pay to complain.  Remember we are living in a country that has steeper penalties for breaking an eagles egg than aborting a baby, so good luck trying to get people to care. 

 
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October 12, 2008, 1:05 pm PDT

Thanks for the Show!

My parents divorced when I was 11 and it's been hell ever since, I'm 41 now and they still act like children when there around each other. When I was younger I sided with my mother, at one point not talking to my dad for over two years, but he didn't care.  At least he never called me, I always had to make the effort to see him.  He has called me twice in 30 years, both times when my half sister needed a favor, my step mom calls my wife to set up family get together's but that's it.  My dad has been there maybe 15% of the time for my entire life,  he wouldn't sign my student loan to go to college because my mom's name was on there, thank God my brother signed it.  I asked him for 50 bucks one time for the electric bill when I was in school and he said he couldn't swing it.  When I got married I decided to reconcile with him because I remembered the pictures of my brothers wedding were so sad because he stood to the side and didn't smile.  I even had him stand up with me, moving one of my best friends ever to the role of usher so he would feel more a part of the celebration.  Everything was great, he even offered to send me and my wife on a honeymoon to the Caribbean to make up for some of the past but backed out on the promise two days before the wedding.  I had already told everyone that my dad was sending us to the Caribbean, so I put the cruise on my credit card at the last minute.  I don't know if any of you have ever bought a vacation at the last minute, but it ain't cheap, basically I paid about 5000 dollars for a 1200 dollar cruise.  At least this is what the people in the room right next door to us paid, and I never told anyone but my wife.  Heck he even stuck my wife to be's dad with the check for my diner at my own graduation party for grad school.  Why did I say all this, well I now believe after going through all this crap, to heal you have to forgive what ever you perceive has been done to you or it will own you the rest of your life. At least I'm alive and I have a great wife and two beautiful kids and a great job and I'm receiving everything I missed out on as a child times 10 over also was it me or was that lady lawyer on the show a freak-in nut.  Listen lady it's about the kids, not you and whether you think this alienation crap happens often or not, so let's all behave like grown ups and this issue will just fade away. Again great show!!!
 
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November 28, 2008, 12:23 am PST

Why does the number matter?

I'm sorry Dr. Phil but I have to call you on this one, you say that people are born with their sexual preference in place on one show (which by the way you can't prove either way) but this guy would probably do it with wet sand, it sounds like to me that he has no preference at all.  Why don't you defend this guy like you do other people that live lifestyles that are risky?  Why does the amount of sexual partners matter?  Oral and anal sex is risky and not healthy no matter if it's straight or bi or monogamous or what ever , sure the number of sex partners does increase your chances for catching a disease but the type of sex needs to be addressed also.  This should be your focus if you really cared about the people you were dealing with, instead of giving one segment of society a pass on risky behavior just because it may be socially and financially more acceptable to do so.  To me if a fellow human being is doing anything that increases the chances that they may catch a disease or hurt themselves and they bring it to my attention, it would be actually uncaring of me to set back and not say how this behavior may increase the chances of killing them or causing themselves harm.  I bet I would get more flack on your show if I was a person that chose to live alone, because I lacked the love and touch of another human being (also very important).  But I could admittedly be in a monogamous relationship that engaged in risky sex acts and everything would be just fine because my risk is lower because I'm monogamous.  I know your a PhD. but come on, this is completely a health care issue, no different than I.V. drug use.  I'm not saying to rake these people over the coals, but I am saying that it is very inconsistent to give one segment of society a pass just because it may be more socially acceptable to do so.  I even heard the lady Dr. on your other show (the Dr's.) say that anal sex was fine as long as you use plenty of lubrication, I know were not supposed to judge each other but please, sex is no different than any other kind of drug.  Didn't you hear the guy say that he had to keep doing more because the other wasn't doing it for him any more, the answer is not more types of sex when what's working quits working, the answer is less of regular sex.  If having sex has become mundane with your partner, I think it's safe to say that your having too much sex, just back it off until it becomes special again.  I don't care if it's 5 times a day or three times a week or once a month, find a partner that has a sex drive that is close to your's and your life will be a lot more enjoyable to live. She defiantly missed the warning signs early on in this relationship, heck I had a girlfriend when I was in my early 20's and all we did was have sex, 5 times a day some 3 or 4 days a week and I loved every second of it.  But that's all we did and I wanted more out of life than just sex, it started effecting who I wanted to be in life and I had to choose between the two, thank God I did because as I grew older I learned that as I said before sex is a drug and if not handled with care can take over your life.  It's all about power and control! The answer is, do we have the power to control ourselves?
 

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