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December 17, 2005, 7:26 am PST

Anyone, Some Advice, Please!!

Hello, me and my husband have been married for 2 years almost and my problem is this, my husband has lost his financial aid to continue going to college for his Bachelors Degree and now he wants me to pay for the 4 classes he needs to get back on student loans.  The problem is that my husband refused to listen to me when I told him that the financial aid office said that if he dropped 1 more class he would lose his loans due to unsatisfactory progress.  What did my husband do?  He loaded up on 5 classes (against my better judgement--I literally begged him not to take that many) and then he dropped 1-2 classes at the end of the semester (this was 2 semesters ago) and now the financial aid office did exactly what they said they were going to do and what I tried to get into my husband's thick head and now he has no student loans to continue school with, but he wants me to now pay the $2000.00+ it will take to pay for 4 classes + books.  The financial aid office says that he has to pay for 4 classes, out-of-pocket, and then he can reapply for student loans.  My husband SWEARS that he will pay me back every penny once he gets back on loans again.  I don't know what to do because I told him not to take that many classes and he didn't listen to me and not he wants me to pay for these 4 classes!! The audasity of him!  And then another part of me feels like my money is "our" money since we are married and it should be used to benefit us both.  We are not wealthy, so this $2000.00 will hurt us a bit financially (and it was so unnecessary). I don't know what to do.  ANY ADVICE WOULD BE REALLY APPREICATED!! Thanks so much.
 
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December 18, 2005, 4:17 pm PST

What about this Stephanie?! (Thanks by the way)

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I know this is a lot of money for you to handle. Try thinking of it this way your husband needed this degree to finish his education to make your lives better. If it would make you feel better have him sign a contract to bind him to staying in the classes and finishing them. I've learned that if my husband has something set in his mind he's going to do it regardless of how much I think I know better. Try sitting down and talking to him logically... If he wants you to pay and sacrifice you expect him to listen to you the next time he decided to load up and drop classes. If not you simply will make him come up with a way to handle the money. After all it was his decision not to follow the rules of the loan and go against your better judgement. 

Good Luck, 

Stephanie  

Hi Stephanie, thank you for such a prompt reply. I have another question I'd like for you to answer for me.  I'm beginning to think that my husband may never get a college degree and it is very disappointing because when I married him, he was a nursing major, hence, I thought I was marrying a nurse.  That isn't why I married him by no means, but...to go from that to this, you've got to admit is a huge difference. My husband now tells me he wants to pay for it himself and for me not to worry about it, but on his wage, I don't see how he thinks he is going to do that, but anyways.  I plan on going on and getting my Ph.D and just becoming a teacher (that's a whole other post), but do you think someone with a Ph.D could be successfully married to someone who makes $8-10.00/hour? I don't want a divorce by no means, but I don't think it's fair for me to follow-through with all my plans while he just sits back and does nothing.  I know that may sound mean, but I really did not sign-up for all of this chaois.  I love my husband, but I feel like if he really loved me he would of finished nursing school or college period.  How can I get through this?  Thanks so much. You're probably married to a successful businessman. Thanks again for your input.
 
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December 18, 2005, 4:30 pm PST

Does this constitute divorce?

Hi, I have been married two years in April and within that time my husband has dropped out of nursing school to making $8.00/hour.  I,  on the other hand, am about to graduate with my Masters degree and then go on to Ph.D. school. Honestly, without my husband by my side and his emotional support, I would not of been able to do it (I dont' think), but if one partner totally reniggs on their end of the bargain is it grounds for divorce?  I love my husband and I do not want to get a divorce, but I get so mad every time I think of how I thought I was marrying a nurse and now he barely makes over minimum wage.  Is that fair?  I don't think so and I don't feel like he takes the marriage or our finances seriously.  Do you think someone with as much education that I plan to get (a Ph.D.) could be successfully married to someone with no college education? Does anyone know anybody like that?  Thanks so much. 
 
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December 19, 2005, 4:05 am PST

Good morning, Stephanie!

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Hahah I'm a nurse! I need some more back round info.... How old is your husband? Is he too old to be playing the major changing routine? Here's my advice... My husband works offshore in the oil buissness he makes very good money now but didn't always and I was making way more money then him. I don't think the success of your marriage is determined on how much a person makes vs. your spouse. I do belive in drive and ability however. I know that if my husband was playing around in school while I was working my butt of I'd be angry as well. Maybe take a step back from the situation and just let it simmer down. I know from being married that my harping and nagging does nothing to work on the problem.  

   Give it a couple of weeks or days however long you need to come up with a game plan. Then have a clear plan with notes or a board with all your main ideas like a presentation so you don't loose focus and calmly explain how you'd like him to finish college or drop out stop wasting time and resources and find a better job. Then maybe go into your 5 year plan and tell him that if he isn't serious about college to let you as a couple save the resources for your Ph.D so you can provide for you both while he figures out what he'd like to do.  

 As I read over your message again I have to think to myself that we as women took vows ... for better or for worse... and it seems to me that there may be something more to your husbands lack of commitment towards his education and job future. He may have Peter Pan syndrome( I don't want to grow up). Staying in college is like a status of being young and working in the real world means he'd have to grow up.  

Okay I think I'm rambling. I hope this helped post more and we'll bounce ideas back and forth if it helps you. I know this has got to be hard.  

Stephanie  

Hi Steph, my husband is 28 and I'm 35. He does try really hard, but he just never seems to follow-through with any project. Thank you though for giving me hope of having a good marriage with all this education difference between us.  He has been my rock for pursuing my dreams and I know I couldn't have done it or done it nearly as easily without him. He loves to skateboard and he works nights, but he never takes my advice on anything and it always usually backfires on him in the end. I just can't quit thinking about "what ifs".  What if he had received his BSN (bachelors of science in nursing). Our lives would be totally different. I MEAN TOTALLY!! If you have any kind of similar story within your relationship please tell me, so I'll feel better!! LOL  How long have ya'll been married? What is the one thing that your husband has done that you can't seem to get over?  In all honesty, my husband I don't think would ever cheat on me and to me, that is worth his weight in gold!  LOL I've had girlfriends tell me this too. He has to feel bad about not finishing school and only making $6.00/hour-tax free, right?  I don't know.  I am committed Stephanie and I want to make it work.  We've just been through a lot already these first 2 years.  Thanks again for your advice, it's been wonderful!
 
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December 22, 2005, 7:06 am PST

That's good

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Is your husband currently working as an LNA or nursing assistant? If he is, and there is such a need for nurses right now,  that the facility might be willing and able to "comp" him college courses to finish his nursing degree with an assurance that he goes to work for them after graduation.  He is 28, and while I truly believe in sowing your wild oats before you get married, once you DO marry, you have to jump on the bandwagon. My husband is 56, and will finish his bachelors degree in Feb of 2006. Hmmm why so long? Because when I married him, I strongly told him that our future kids would need to have role models for their education. He is incredibly smart, and has gone through a 4 year program while working full time with a 4.0 average at Drexel University(yes, as a matter of fact, I DO brag about him)- it was just an issue of desire on his part, and I credit myself for putting it there......(nag vs. creating an issue of desire) 

Get him working in the field and the opportunities will arise- 

You're right.  I shouldn't nag him about it.  At one time he did want to take a Nursing Assistant job or course.  I think I'm going to suggest that at this point.  Thanks again, you've been so helpful!
 
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December 24, 2005, 7:44 am PST

I'm married and bi

Is anyone out there married and bisexual?  I have always been attracted to women, but I have always had very meaningful relationships with men, so I truly do believe I'm bisexual and not a "closet gay".  I do not want to live a gay lifestyle because it truly is a lifestyle and I do not want to grow old with a woman.  Sometimes I'm scared that one day I'll leave my husband for a woman and I just want reassurance from someone out there that they know what I'm going through.  I love my husband and I don't ever want to leave him for anyone! He knows I'm bi and accepts it and fully understands and would even allow me to have sex with another woman.  Is it possible, if you are bisexual to be married and not have sex with another woman ever again?  Thanks so much.
 
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January 3, 2006, 3:58 am PST

I know!

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 I am :)

I realised about 4 years ago that I was attracted to some women, aswell as some men. By then I was already married. I am fortunate that my husband has a very open mind about sexuality, and has no issues if I should have sex with a woman. I am not sure if I could go through life without being with a woman again.
I know me too!  My husband has even gone so far as to tell me I don't have to tell him about it.  We've had 2 threesomes but I didn't like that, I'd prefer just one-on-one woman time (if you know what I mean! LOL).  Anyways, I love my husband dearly and I would never cheat on him with another man.  How long have you been married?
 
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January 10, 2006, 11:07 am PST

Any Insights Please!!!

Hi, I am a Graduate student and within 1 year I will have my MBA, my undergrad is in Business Marketing. This past holiday season in October, I took on a seasonal-part-time position with the second largest retailer next to Wal-Mart.  I've never worked in Fashion/Clothing Retail and I wanted to try it out, plus make some extra money for holiday gifts.  Well, I have done extremely well.  I sold probably 300 store credit within these first 3 months of service with this company and I thought I would never sell even 1! Needless to say, if it wasn't for me the store would not of met their goal. 

  

My frusteration is coming with the fact that all the Associate and Assistant Managers, Head of Store, and District Manager have been with the company 3-10 years!  Even though I have a lot more education than these Managers (I know for sure 3 out of the 4 have absolutley zero college), I feel like I can't compete with all their seniority. Upon my seasonal review, they told me they enjoyed working with me so much and wanted to talk to me at a later time about become "The Store Card Trainer". I asked for a raise and they said they are only given once a year in the summer. I am out sick today which means I lose the money I could of made today. I'm a little bitter because I want to go from seasonal-part-time to seasonal-full-time (at least 30 hrs/week.).  My college advisor tells me I must put my career on hold until I finish up my MBA within a year. Even though I'm not technically full-time, I still am scheduled full-time hours most of the quarter. 

  

I don't know what to do.  I feel embarrassed to work around all these other people with all my education and I don't even have any benefits or anything with this company other than a clothing discount, but I feel like I need the experience if I do want to ever move-up or apply at another job for a management position post-graduation. What should I do?! These seasoned employees act like all the education in the world doesn't make a difference to them, it's experience that counts. If it wasn't for me the store would not sell any store credit cards. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not the #1 seller of the whole company. 

  

Thank you for your insight. 

 
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January 12, 2006, 6:13 am PST

Maybe?

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come down off your self imposed MBA high horse.  I personally would take experience over  an MBA anyday - why - I doubt that you have any experience except for summer.  When I was in retailing years ago - I found out that the people who knew what was going on were the ones who had spent time on the floor for at least 3 years and all the BAs and MBAs just coming in had no clue as to what was going on.   

  

You said one thing right - You do need the experience, and your degree won't give you that at all.  Look at Oramost a Phd on the Apprentice - caught Lying on camera, because she thought that 'she' had it all - and about Troy McClain the high schooler - he almost out did them all. 

  

Your not going to like me but I detect you have a lot of 'academia' and not much common sense. 

  

  

What does common sense have to do with "out-performing" everybody at my store and probably everybody in the company when it comes to store credit card sales? I probably do have more book sense than common sense, but I can't help that fact, but I also feel like I'm out-performing everybody else.  I just want what I deserve in life and all I do is give and give and companies take and take.  That's why I want to go into teaching!  Don't you see?! My card sales are making this company lots of money.  ie. Just say I open 20 cards each week with an $1100.00 credit limit. That's $22,000/week for that company or $1,144,000.00/year!  I believe advancement should be based on job performance and not seniority. That protects someone like me who has been in school approximately a decade of their life to be able to come into a company and fairly compete with all these employees who have been there since dirt! Look, I totally agree, if someone comes into the company with all this education and doesn't perform that's one thing, but I guarantee you, I've sold more cards then probably anyone ever has for the company.  It sounds like to me, you have loads of common sense but no "academic" sense.
 
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January 12, 2006, 1:10 pm PST

Maybe so...

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I hold an AA degree in Accounting with 15 years of experience.  My degree gave me the basics, but it was the experience that taught me accounting, and how to read this and that.  Ok so you have good card sales - could be that that's what you should go into - Sales!  Too many companies want degree over experience or better yet - if you think you are that good - go independent. 

  

As far as academic sense - I would rather have tons of common/horse sense than rely upon academic sense.  On the apprentince when they had the book smarts vs street smarts - the street people were winning until they started infighting because of their egos.!!!!!  And the book smarts had to admit that they lacked creativity and street smarts.   

  

Retail is just not card sales - it's stocking, trends, customer service, etc, etc.  Based on what you say I don't think you have experience of much in any of these areas. 

  

If you can/have no problem with telling people to open a card - then maybe that's your field - remember successful people 'enjoy' what their doing - and you seem to enjoy this aspect of retailing - but remember - this is just one aspect. 

I will admit that I don't have much common sense, but there is nothing I can do about that, ya know? I do wish I had a better balance of street/book smarts, but I don't.  I know there is more to retailing than card sales because of all my education and the short time I've been there, too. I have thought about going into sales since I'm obviously good at that due to my great card sales! LOL I just thought at my age (36 in February) that I wouldn't be living paycheck to paycheck or be just "starting" in ANY type of career! I think where I live has a lot to do with it.  I live in the deep South and believe you me with all the hurricanes and economic unstability, not to mention, the sexism in the businesses around here, it's a wonder I'm doing this good! I'm also worried because I've never worked anywhere longer than 1 year and I've been fired from several jobs.  If you would of known me in high school, I was the most popular girl, Homecoming Queen, Cheerleader Captain, Student Council President, MVP of Basketball and Softball and Volleyball, etc... I should of done better than what I'm doing now.  I don't know what went wrong.  Don't get me wrong.  I do count my blessings.  I have a wonderful husband and a sense of pride just knowing that I'm still trying.  I'm worried about approaching 40 and then being discriminated against.  At the store I work with a 21 year old whom they seem to be just molding into management while I'm being overlooked.  I get frusterated and it makes me want to quit because "I know with this much education I could find another job..."  The problem is, I'm tired of always being the one looking for another job, or interviewing for one, or anytime I talk to friends and family I'm always somewhere new.  When will my life get the respect and admiration it deserves?!  I know it starts with me, but I'M TRYING, I REALLY AM!! 
 

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