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Posted by: punkaloosa
Posted on: 2003-05-19 10:03:41
IF MEN ARE SO VISUAL, HOW COME THEY DON'T SEE
THEIR DIRTY SOCKS ON THE FLOOR OR CLEAN UP THE HOUSE MORE. THEY ACT LIKT THEY DON'T EVEN SEE IT!
Posted by: punkaloosa
Posted on: 2003-05-19 10:03:41
IF MEN ARE SO VISUAL, HOW COME THEY DON'T SEE
THEIR DIRTY SOCKS ON THE FLOOR OR CLEAN UP THE HOUSE MORE. THEY ACT LIKT THEY DON'T EVEN SEE IT!
palestar
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-19 17:40:29
We know you see them you took them off and left them there right?It must be nice to be so self involved.It lets us know that you don't care about us that you dont value our work and our self worth or yours in a relationship which i think is sad because you want us to see you, and everything that you do.That is your rejection to us and then you expect to get all hot and heavy in the room. ya right!
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-19 17:40:29
We know you see them you took them off and left them there right?It must be nice to be so self involved.It lets us know that you don't care about us that you dont value our work and our self worth or yours in a relationship which i think is sad because you want us to see you, and everything that you do.That is your rejection to us and then you expect to get all hot and heavy in the room. ya right!
myaurmi5
Posted by: palestar
Posted on: 2003-05-20 08:26:33
It was meant as a joke! But then I see you place your self worth on whether or not the mate picks up their socks! Gezzz... I'll bet your one of them nagging women that feels that the man WORKS for you. Bark out the orders for jobs to be done so that when he does them you feel loved or that he cares for you. Pity the poor bugger that is at the end of your rantings. The time may come when he's gone and you'll miss seeing them socks at the end of the sofa. Lighten up lady. As for seeing and being seen. If it were me, less than 15 minutes of this behavior and it wouldn't be a problem of either of us.
Posted by: palestar
Posted on: 2003-05-20 08:26:33
It was meant as a joke! But then I see you place your self worth on whether or not the mate picks up their socks! Gezzz... I'll bet your one of them nagging women that feels that the man WORKS for you. Bark out the orders for jobs to be done so that when he does them you feel loved or that he cares for you.
palestar
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-20 16:11:17
I don't put my self worth in a pair of socks. It is the common courtesy that you would appreciate that the house be clean. I Don't need to BARK orders at him to do things I am more than capable of doing things for my self thank you very much My point is that it gets frustrating cleaning up after 5 kids all day and then have my husband who is supposed to love and respect me leave his crap all over the place makes more work for me in the evening which leaves less time for us. So on and on we go. I will admit that at times I am demanding and at times so is he but we try to understand that I was relating to all women because there are a few rare men out there that feel there is more to them than lets say there job they think that is all they have to do just go to work and come home and when they do get home act like an outsider looking in that they don't need to help in the evening even though they helped create what ever life is out side of work.
And I bet you are right if any woman was assertive you wouldn't stay long you would feel threatend by her you seem to be the type that has a serious ego problem and are not comfortable with yourself to have an opinionated woman. And believe me they are getting harder and harder to find (the submissive ones i mean)
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-20 16:11:17
I don't put my self worth in a pair of socks. It is the common courtesy that you would appreciate that the house be clean. I Don't need to BARK orders at him to do things I am more than capable of doing things for my self thank you very much My point is that it gets frustrating cleaning up after 5 kids all day and then have my husband who is supposed to love and respect me leave his crap all over the place makes more work for me in the evening which leaves less time for us. So on and on we go. I will admit that at times I am demanding and at times so is he but we try to understand that I was relating to all women because there are a few rare men out there that feel there is more to them than lets say there job they think that is all they have to do just go to work and come home and when they do get home act like an outsider looking in that they don't need to help in the evening even though they helped create what ever life is out side of work.
And I bet you are right if any woman was assertive you wouldn't stay long you would feel threatend by her you seem to be the type that has a serious ego problem and are not comfortable with yourself to have an opinionated woman. And believe me they are getting harder and harder to find (the submissive ones i mean)
picking up
Posted by: quack1
Posted on: 2003-06-02 11:47:51
My problem with that would not be one of self worth, I would be upset that he was setting a bad example for the 5 kids. You try to teach them to pick up thier toys when they are done and to put thier cloths in the laundry basket, kind of hard to do when daddy doesn't do it. Kids learn by example not by telling them how it should be. If he was a single man with no kids than he can be as much of a slob as he wants but he should take his wife and kids into consideration when he is a father and a husband.
Posted by: quack1
Posted on: 2003-06-02 11:47:51
My problem with that would not be one of self worth, I would be upset that he was setting a bad example for the 5 kids. You try to teach them to pick up thier toys when they are done and to put thier cloths in the laundry basket, kind of hard to do when daddy doesn't do it. Kids learn by example not by telling them how it should be. If he was a single man with no kids than he can be as much of a slob as he wants but he should take his wife and kids into consideration when he is a father and a husband.
i agree
Posted by: glow88
Posted on: 2005-02-01 10:48:32
yes i agree, children work by example and if there is one parent that isnt seting the same example,that confuses the cildren,which tends to make them rebel and they wont do what there supposed to be doing...(taking respnsibility)...both parents should be comunicating with eachother and both be taking some responsibility when it comes to the children,relationship,and chores.......everyone has to take SOME responsibility...and have respect for one another...the chilren need to know that they have a purpose in life and... to gain respect for themselves and from others they need to takeon there own responsibilies
Posted by: glow88
Posted on: 2005-02-01 10:48:32
yes i agree, children work by example and if there is one parent that isnt seting the same example,that confuses the cildren,which tends to make them rebel and they wont do what there supposed to be doing...(taking respnsibility)...both parents should be comunicating with eachother and both be taking some responsibility when it comes to the children,relationship,and chores.......everyone has to take SOME responsibility...and have respect for one another...the chilren need to know that they have a purpose in life and... to gain respect for themselves and from others they need to takeon there own responsibilies
i agree
Posted by: glow88
Posted on: 2005-02-01 11:09:35
yes i agree, children work by example and if there is one parent that isnt seting the same example,that confuses the cildren,which tends to make them rebel and they wont do what there supposed to be doing...(taking respnsibility)...both parents should be comunicating with eachother and both be taking some responsibility when it comes to the children,relationship,and chores.......everyone has to take SOME responsibility...and have respect for one another...the chilren need to know that they have a purpose in life and... to gain respect for themselves and from others they need to takeon there own responsibilies
Posted by: glow88
Posted on: 2005-02-01 11:09:35
yes i agree, children work by example and if there is one parent that isnt seting the same example,that confuses the cildren,which tends to make them rebel and they wont do what there supposed to be doing...(taking respnsibility)...both parents should be comunicating with eachother and both be taking some responsibility when it comes to the children,relationship,and chores.......everyone has to take SOME responsibility...and have respect for one another...the chilren need to know that they have a purpose in life and... to gain respect for themselves and from others they need to takeon there own responsibilies
palestar
Posted by: shoesale
Posted on: 2003-08-07 09:58:41
I could not have said it better. Submissive is out guys and you better get a clue. If we have to work and take care of ourselves why do we need to be married to you? The only thing lacking is the sex and if we are single we can get that anytime WE feel like it....after all you guys are visual.
Posted by: shoesale
Posted on: 2003-08-07 09:58:41
I could not have said it better. Submissive is out guys and you better get a clue. If we have to work and take care of ourselves why do we need to be married to you? The only thing lacking is the sex and if we are single we can get that anytime WE feel like it....after all you guys are visual.
Well said...
Posted by: westdick9
Posted on: 2003-08-07 11:25:49
We are certainly visual, as most women know, that's why they dress like they do. A woman with a decent body in short dress is a giant turn on for most of us men. I find it hard to believe that those women who know that are the same women who get mad when their husband responds to such stimuli. Just turning his head or eyes to look will cause untold problems.
Posted by: westdick9
Posted on: 2003-08-07 11:25:49
We are certainly visual, as most women know, that's why they dress like they do. A woman with a decent body in short dress is a giant turn on for most of us men. I find it hard to believe that those women who know that are the same women who get mad when their husband responds to such stimuli. Just turning his head or eyes to look will cause untold problems.
palestar
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-20 16:13:53
I don't put my self worth in a pair of socks. It is the common courtesy that you would appreciate that the house be clean. I Don't need to BARK orders at him to do things I am more than capable of doing things for my self thank you very much My point is that it gets frustrating cleaning up after 5 kids all day and then have my husband who is supposed to love and respect me leave his crap all over the place makes more work for me in the evening which leaves less time for us. So on and on we go. I will admit that at times I am demanding and at times so is he but we try to understand that I was relating to all women because there are a few rare men out there that feel there is more to them than lets say there job they think that is all they have to do just go to work and come home and when they do get home act like an outsider looking in that they don't need to help in the evening even though they helped create what ever life is out side of work.
And I bet you are right if any woman was assertive you wouldn't stay long you would feel threatend by her you seem to be the type that has a serious ego problem and are not comfortable with yourself to have an opinionated woman. And believe me they are getting harder and harder to find (the submissive ones i mean)so i guess you don't have any PROBLEMS then;)
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-20 16:13:53
I don't put my self worth in a pair of socks. It is the common courtesy that you would appreciate that the house be clean. I Don't need to BARK orders at him to do things I am more than capable of doing things for my self thank you very much My point is that it gets frustrating cleaning up after 5 kids all day and then have my husband who is supposed to love and respect me leave his crap all over the place makes more work for me in the evening which leaves less time for us. So on and on we go. I will admit that at times I am demanding and at times so is he but we try to understand that I was relating to all women because there are a few rare men out there that feel there is more to them than lets say there job they think that is all they have to do just go to work and come home and when they do get home act like an outsider looking in that they don't need to help in the evening even though they helped create what ever life is out side of work.
And I bet you are right if any woman was assertive you wouldn't stay long you would feel threatend by her you seem to be the type that has a serious ego problem and are not comfortable with yourself to have an opinionated woman. And believe me they are getting harder and harder to find (the submissive ones i mean)so i guess you don't have any PROBLEMS then;)
MYAURMI5 - Ouch!!... LOL..
Posted by: palestar
Posted on: 2003-05-21 03:02:42
Nice try... There is a big difference between assertive and being a naggy psycho-bitch. I agree with the helping around the house thing. As for not having problems with women. Your right, cause I refuse to put up with bitchy bossy pain in the ass females. Let me be clear in this last line. I like strong independent intelligent women who are able to discuss issues in a respectful manor. After seeing the hissy fits that the women were showing on the Monday show and the guy being asked to leave for 9 days as a result of one. If it were me it would be just enough time to have papers served on the nut and move on. Then, any fool that stays in an abusive relationship deserves what they are getting. I just refuse to put up with your version of what you call 'assertiveness'. As for the ego thing.. yea.. it's fragile so be gentle on poor-poor me... gezzzz.
Posted by: palestar
Posted on: 2003-05-21 03:02:42
Nice try... There is a big difference between assertive and being a naggy psycho-bitch. I agree with the helping around the house thing. As for not having problems with women. Your right, cause I refuse to put up with bitchy bossy pain in the ass females. Let me be clear in this last line. I like strong independent intelligent women who are able to discuss issues in a respectful manor. After seeing the hissy fits that the women were showing on the Monday show and the guy being asked to leave for 9 days as a result of one. If it were me it would be just enough time to have papers served on the nut and move on. Then, any fool that stays in an abusive relationship deserves what they are getting. I just refuse to put up with your version of what you call 'assertiveness'. As for the ego thing.. yea.. it's fragile so be gentle on poor-poor me... gezzzz.
palestar
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-21 10:03:38
I am not a nagging phsyco-bitch I do agree that the women were whiners more than they probably should have been. Just because i can relate as many women can that it is frustrating to the very limits of our being some days.
I love my husband very very much. And you are right I would miss all the things that iritate me, don't get me wrong to be honest he's a nagger to and I always tell him that if i were to die today that he'd miss and he agrees,See my assertivness or as you would like to refer to me as "psycho bitch" all the nagging bithching and fighting Got my husband to realize that he had a very bad drug problem with meth and he honestly beleives that he would be dead now had i not stood up to him and let him know that i wouldn't live my life like that he has been clean for almost 4 years know.So MANY REASONS THAT WE BECOME WHO WE ARE AFTER WE GET MARRIED and I would never change that for anything,even though i may bitch or nag we still love eachother,and at the end of the day that is all that matters.
So with that said I call a truce between you and I to agree to diagree.MEN are man and WOMEN are women.
Posted by: myaurmi5
Posted on: 2003-05-21 10:03:38
I am not a nagging phsyco-bitch I do agree that the women were whiners more than they probably should have been. Just because i can relate as many women can that it is frustrating to the very limits of our being some days.
I love my husband very very much. And you are right I would miss all the things that iritate me, don't get me wrong to be honest he's a nagger to and I always tell him that if i were to die today that he'd miss and he agrees,See my assertivness or as you would like to refer to me as "psycho bitch" all the nagging bithching and fighting Got my husband to realize that he had a very bad drug problem with meth and he honestly beleives that he would be dead now had i not stood up to him and let him know that i wouldn't live my life like that he has been clean for almost 4 years know.So MANY REASONS THAT WE BECOME WHO WE ARE AFTER WE GET MARRIED and I would never change that for anything,even though i may bitch or nag we still love eachother,and at the end of the day that is all that matters.
So with that said I call a truce between you and I to agree to diagree.MEN are man and WOMEN are women.
Tch Tch Tch
Posted by: nogrliegrl
Posted on: 2003-05-22 14:28:53
Whew! Do we both feel any better now? I was enjoying the exchange until the cursing and name calling started. I heard once that if a man drops his socks on the floor when he takes them off, he hates his mother. However, I am married to a man who habitually drops his socks, and no one could love their mother more.
Posted by: nogrliegrl
Posted on: 2003-05-22 14:28:53
Whew! Do we both feel any better now? I was enjoying the exchange until the cursing and name calling started. I heard once that if a man drops his socks on the floor when he takes them off, he hates his mother. However, I am married to a man who habitually drops his socks, and no one could love their mother more.
WOW! All over socks!
Posted by: biggerbrat
Posted on: 2003-06-01 01:09:00
Quite the arguement over socks on the floor. I can think of many other reasons to get angry....but socks??
Posted by: biggerbrat
Posted on: 2003-06-01 01:09:00
Quite the arguement over socks on the floor. I can think of many other reasons to get angry....but socks??
Posted by: nordstjern
Posted on: 2003-05-23 01:36:33
If you like strong, independent and intelligent women who are able to discuss issues in a respectful manner, the first thing you should do, is stop the name calling. I doubt very much a strong, independent and intelligent woman would even consider discussing anything at all with you before you learn how to approach people in a respectful and intelligent first.
When you do, there is no reason why you shouldn't be treated intelligently and respectfully back. Evidently, you need to take a closer look at what you're doing to deserve a respectful discussion. By calling people names the way you do, you're obviously not taking your own opinions seriously enough to make sure they're being met with the respect I am sure they deserve.
palestar
Posted by: mlurca
Posted on: 2003-05-24 08:33:40
I think what happens when you thoughtlessly leave socks, underwear, etc, is that you send a non-verbal "statement" that seems to say "your time is not as valuable as mine", or "I expect you to take care of this for me", whether or not that's what you intended. I work very long days and make "a man's income"; I don't want to pick up his socks any more than he wants to pick up my underwear. It's an issue of respect for ones time and effort. I can't speak on the issue of how being a non-working mom factors in, but there has to be a limit on what she's expected to do--a certain amount of "doing for him" is expected, but remember, she's not a servant. An older woman I used to work with years ago told me when she had been an young Army nurse stationed in Japan, she and her roomate hired maids (for very little pay, I imagine). These women would simply let their clothes fall to the floor and the maids would scurry after them to pick up. I was around 22 when I heard this; I've never gotten that "servant" image out of my head and I can't imaging treating any one, or being treated like that myself (that's not to say I NEVER leave socks or underwear on the floor, but, yeah, I do end up picking up my own, at least).
Posted by: mlurca
Posted on: 2003-05-24 08:33:40
I think what happens when you thoughtlessly leave socks, underwear, etc, is that you send a non-verbal "statement" that seems to say "your time is not as valuable as mine", or "I expect you to take care of this for me", whether or not that's what you intended. I work very long days and make "a man's income"; I don't want to pick up his socks any more than he wants to pick up my underwear. It's an issue of respect for ones time and effort. I can't speak on the issue of how being a non-working mom factors in, but there has to be a limit on what she's expected to do--a certain amount of "doing for him" is expected, but remember, she's not a servant. An older woman I used to work with years ago told me when she had been an young Army nurse stationed in Japan, she and her roomate hired maids (for very little pay, I imagine). These women would simply let their clothes fall to the floor and the maids would scurry after them to pick up. I was around 22 when I heard this; I've never gotten that "servant" image out of my head and I can't imaging treating any one, or being treated like that myself (that's not to say I NEVER leave socks or underwear on the floor, but, yeah, I do end up picking up my own, at least).
Posted by: lolly78
Posted on: 2005-02-14 12:15:10
Maybe you need to take a deep breath and look at the situation from a different point of view. A man leaving his socks out in the living room is not what you think! So he forgot his socks! So he does it all the time! He's not an evil man doing it on purpose to make you work harder, he just doesn't think about it! Remember, men think differently from women. To you, it's disrespectful, to him it's an "oops, I forgot!" He's not perfect (neither are you). If you are waiting for him to act just like you, you might as well give up. If you want to have a happy marriage you need to chill out. If leaving his socks on the floor is the worst thing he ever does, consider yourself lucky. You need to find out where all this anger is stemming from. Don't direct it at this poor guy.
Whoa!!
Posted by: quack1
Posted on: 2003-06-02 11:52:43
I had some sympathy for your point of view up until this comment! You don't know the woman, where do you get off calling her a "psycho-bitch?" Sounds like you have issues with women to me. was your mom controling? How about your ex-wife/girlfriend? I think you are really talking to someone else when you call a total stranger a "psycho-bitch"
Posted by: quack1
Posted on: 2003-06-02 11:52:43
I had some sympathy for your point of view up until this comment! You don't know the woman, where do you get off calling her a "psycho-bitch?" Sounds like you have issues with women to me. was your mom controling? How about your ex-wife/girlfriend? I think you are really talking to someone else when you call a total stranger a "psycho-bitch"
Bad attitude
Posted by: shoesale
Posted on: 2003-08-07 10:03:04
With your attitude the only one who would put up with you would be some girl in the backwoods that does not know any better. Any indepenant, intelligent woman would send you packing before the marriage.
Posted by: shoesale
Posted on: 2003-08-07 10:03:04
With your attitude the only one who would put up with you would be some girl in the backwoods that does not know any better. Any indepenant, intelligent woman would send you packing before the marriage.
