12/26 A Family Divided, Part 3
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Posted by: davidsmom2
Posted on: 2003-10-02 08:22:19
He is lying his butt off. He's pretending to be open. Check his body language.
Posted by: davidsmom2
Posted on: 2003-10-02 08:22:19
He is lying his butt off. He's pretending to be open. Check his body language.
I agree
Posted by: riverratma
Posted on: 2003-10-02 10:27:48
I can't wait to see the outcome of today's show. I have only seen commercials for today's episode and that man appears to be so smug.......I'll have to have a pillow ready to throw at the tv and as if his children haven't been through enough...it has to be aired on national television. I guess you have to give them all some credit!
Posted by: riverratma
Posted on: 2003-10-02 10:27:48
I can't wait to see the outcome of today's show. I have only seen commercials for today's episode and that man appears to be so smug.......I'll have to have a pillow ready to throw at the tv and as if his children haven't been through enough...it has to be aired on national television. I guess you have to give them all some credit!
i understand
Posted by: soniarolen
Posted on: 2003-10-14 00:16:51
i understand too well what is going on in this family. i am in the very same predicament. the only difference is it is a step-father involved. i am the mother of a 17 year old daughter. she doesn't talk about the pregnancy at all. she doesn't know if she wants to keep it or adoption. the father of the baby is 18, but he's still involved right now. i have 4 other daughters,and katherine reminds me of my 16 year old. she says i am rewarding her. that i let the baby's father still come over, and she can't have any company. i talked to his mother and cried for an hour. she thought her son was on his way to college in california. now the son doesn't want to go. my husband is exactly like martin. he lies for no reason. he had an affair with a friend of his relative. he blames me. i even blamed me. i am not as cold hearted as erin. my mother was very loving so that rub off on me. i am a giving person, that never receives back.my husband doesn't get involved in the things that go on with my daughters. 4 of the girls are from a previous marriage. 1 with my current husband. he has moved back, but he lies about where he is going and who he is with. he leaves home for 8-10 hours at a time. i don't know how long i am going to beable to deal with this. i feel as if i am having a break down. i am always thinking. i awake with a headache just about every morning. very stressed. we don't talk, go anywhere or have any intimacy. he lived with this woman for about a ye
Posted by: soniarolen
Posted on: 2003-10-14 00:16:51
i understand too well what is going on in this family. i am in the very same predicament. the only difference is it is a step-father involved. i am the mother of a 17 year old daughter. she doesn't talk about the pregnancy at all. she doesn't know if she wants to keep it or adoption. the father of the baby is 18, but he's still involved right now. i have 4 other daughters,and katherine reminds me of my 16 year old. she says i am rewarding her. that i let the baby's father still come over, and she can't have any company. i talked to his mother and cried for an hour. she thought her son was on his way to college in california. now the son doesn't want to go. my husband is exactly like martin. he lies for no reason. he had an affair with a friend of his relative. he blames me. i even blamed me. i am not as cold hearted as erin. my mother was very loving so that rub off on me. i am a giving person, that never receives back.my husband doesn't get involved in the things that go on with my daughters. 4 of the girls are from a previous marriage. 1 with my current husband. he has moved back, but he lies about where he is going and who he is with. he leaves home for 8-10 hours at a time. i don't know how long i am going to beable to deal with this. i feel as if i am having a break down. i am always thinking. i awake with a headache just about every morning. very stressed. we don't talk, go anywhere or have any intimacy. he lived with this woman for about a ye
I can relate
Posted by: micks25
Posted on: 2003-10-16 12:35:50
I can relate to this family because I am in a similar situation. My stepdaughter had a baby last year. She was 17. She chose to keep the baby but doesn't take care of her or spend hardly any time with her. I am taking care of this baby like she is my own. My husband & I have very different opinions on how to raise children and as a result we have many arguements. I have two teens to a previous marriage & my husband also has a son living with us as well as his daughter. The biggest problem we have is the way my husband disapline's his children. It's so hard for me to see this & not be able to do a thing about it. He let's his daughter do anything she wants & go anywhere she wants. So this is one reason why she doesn't spend time with her baby. My husband expects my children to be perfect and is very very pregedist. I do make my children listen & obey my rules. I have a very close relationship with both of them. It's hard for me and my children to watch my husband NOT disapline his children. We have much conflict in our home and a lot of resentment. I would love to be on the Dr. Phil show and have counciling for me and my family. There is much more to my story and I do not know how to resolve our problems. At least this family is getting help and I wish them the best. I beleive if they can work through their problems it would be best to keep the baby. I have much joy in taking care of my granddaughter and I will do everything I can to raise her to be a good person. My own child
Posted by: micks25
Posted on: 2003-10-16 12:35:50
I can relate to this family because I am in a similar situation. My stepdaughter had a baby last year. She was 17. She chose to keep the baby but doesn't take care of her or spend hardly any time with her. I am taking care of this baby like she is my own. My husband & I have very different opinions on how to raise children and as a result we have many arguements. I have two teens to a previous marriage & my husband also has a son living with us as well as his daughter. The biggest problem we have is the way my husband disapline's his children. It's so hard for me to see this & not be able to do a thing about it. He let's his daughter do anything she wants & go anywhere she wants. So this is one reason why she doesn't spend time with her baby. My husband expects my children to be perfect and is very very pregedist. I do make my children listen & obey my rules. I have a very close relationship with both of them. It's hard for me and my children to watch my husband NOT disapline his children. We have much conflict in our home and a lot of resentment. I would love to be on the Dr. Phil show and have counciling for me and my family. There is much more to my story and I do not know how to resolve our problems. At least this family is getting help and I wish them the best. I beleive if they can work through their problems it would be best to keep the baby. I have much joy in taking care of my granddaughter and I will do everything I can to raise her to be a good person. My own child
what happens if.....
Posted by: kat_woman
Posted on: 2003-10-20 15:02:25
what will happen if your daughter pulls her head out or gets married, moves out and takes the baby with her? you will be heartbroken and so will the child.
Posted by: kat_woman
Posted on: 2003-10-20 15:02:25
what will happen if your daughter pulls her head out or gets married, moves out and takes the baby with her? you will be heartbroken and so will the child.
what happens if
Posted by: mclw52
Posted on: 2003-10-20 21:36:49
That is the chance you have to take .. helping the daughter get a start in raising the child is very rewarding and you will feel very good about helping her when she does leave and have a happy life with her child knowing you helped her to make better decisions and knowing you are allways there for her will make you feel so much better about yourself and knowing you will always be around to enjoy your grand child is a great gift that you will never know if she gives the child up for adoption
Posted by: mclw52
Posted on: 2003-10-20 21:36:49
That is the chance you have to take .. helping the daughter get a start in raising the child is very rewarding and you will feel very good about helping her when she does leave and have a happy life with her child knowing you helped her to make better decisions and knowing you are allways there for her will make you feel so much better about yourself and knowing you will always be around to enjoy your grand child is a great gift that you will never know if she gives the child up for adoption
i can relate to this too.
Posted by: lemleybaby
Posted on: 2003-10-22 18:43:56
When i was 16 i got pregnant and my dad ans sister move half way across the country. i did keep my child and my parents didnt help me at all they said if i wanted to keep him i would have to do it my self without there help but they would support me in what ever my choice was,and i am glad i kept my it is hard but i can make it. i moved out after i had my son to my own place with my boyfriend at the time now my husband, and thing were hard on us and they still are but i wouldnt give my son up for anything. I just wish those girls who keep there kids take care of them but in reality they dont 90% of the time there parents do it and its not right for the grandparents or the child but if someone dosent step in sometimes the child could get hurt and for those who take care of their childrens kids thank you for the support and for those young moms who dont think they can take care of there child but the keep the child and do there best to give the child what it needs good things will come of it. i am just glad my parents didnt help me now i know i can make it on my own.
Posted by: lemleybaby
Posted on: 2003-10-22 18:43:56
When i was 16 i got pregnant and my dad ans sister move half way across the country. i did keep my child and my parents didnt help me at all they said if i wanted to keep him i would have to do it my self without there help but they would support me in what ever my choice was,and i am glad i kept my it is hard but i can make it. i moved out after i had my son to my own place with my boyfriend at the time now my husband, and thing were hard on us and they still are but i wouldnt give my son up for anything. I just wish those girls who keep there kids take care of them but in reality they dont 90% of the time there parents do it and its not right for the grandparents or the child but if someone dosent step in sometimes the child could get hurt and for those who take care of their childrens kids thank you for the support and for those young moms who dont think they can take care of there child but the keep the child and do there best to give the child what it needs good things will come of it. i am just glad my parents didnt help me now i know i can make it on my own.
congratulations
Posted by: mactero65
Posted on: 2003-12-27 21:46:32
I think you two are a very loving couple and I take my hat off for the way you have handled your problems. I wish you all the luck in the world and may 2004 be a very properous year for you.
With love and best wishes, Ontario
Posted by: mactero65
Posted on: 2003-12-27 21:46:32
I think you two are a very loving couple and I take my hat off for the way you have handled your problems. I wish you all the luck in the world and may 2004 be a very properous year for you.
With love and best wishes, Ontario
Baby Care
Posted by: sweety6291
Posted on: 2003-12-26 19:17:16
Although I know you love your grandchild, it is not right for you to have to be committed to at least 18 yrs to rearing this child. What if she or one of the other children in the home have another child; are you going to rear that one also? Its sad for us, but it can be a blessing for a loving couple and the child to be reared in a stable home with out the arguing and fighting going on. I know because my nephew adopted his three small girls out to a loving couple and less than a year later he got killed in a car wreck. That is a blessing that the girls have a stable home. Think of how the children even infants gets virbes from adult emotions.
Posted by: sweety6291
Posted on: 2003-12-26 19:17:16
Although I know you love your grandchild, it is not right for you to have to be committed to at least 18 yrs to rearing this child. What if she or one of the other children in the home have another child; are you going to rear that one also? Its sad for us, but it can be a blessing for a loving couple and the child to be reared in a stable home with out the arguing and fighting going on. I know because my nephew adopted his three small girls out to a loving couple and less than a year later he got killed in a car wreck. That is a blessing that the girls have a stable home. Think of how the children even infants gets virbes from adult emotions.
Posted by: placid2
Posted on: 2003-12-27 15:55:02
let erin leave marty. anyone can see she's not happy with him. why waste more yrs. with this child of a husbnd. he's not mature enough for her.
GO FOR IT ERIN.
I like the dad
Posted by: sweetie23t
Posted on: 2003-10-02 11:45:19
I was pregnant at 16 the father dumped me and I only had my family. I could not have gone though it without the love and support of my family. The mother should be ashamed of herself. The sister is jelous. The father is the only one who supports his daughter. Its men like him that make women happier. I also think that the poor girl is being pressured into doing something she doesn't want to do. Its the rest of her life not anyone elses.
Posted by: sweetie23t
Posted on: 2003-10-02 11:45:19
I was pregnant at 16 the father dumped me and I only had my family. I could not have gone though it without the love and support of my family. The mother should be ashamed of herself. The sister is jelous. The father is the only one who supports his daughter. Its men like him that make women happier. I also think that the poor girl is being pressured into doing something she doesn't want to do. Its the rest of her life not anyone elses.
I like the Dad too
Posted by: ahtyler
Posted on: 2003-10-02 13:12:04
Martin is the one that has heart. Erin is afraid the baby is going to inconvenience her life. My unmarried daughter became pregnant three years ago with no father and no support and I told her she and I could raise the baby ourselves (I am divorced). You can't tell me that a baby is better off in an adoptive home than a biological family raising the child. My granddaughter is now 2 and is the love of our life.
Posted by: ahtyler
Posted on: 2003-10-02 13:12:04
Martin is the one that has heart. Erin is afraid the baby is going to inconvenience her life. My unmarried daughter became pregnant three years ago with no father and no support and I told her she and I could raise the baby ourselves (I am divorced). You can't tell me that a baby is better off in an adoptive home than a biological family raising the child. My granddaughter is now 2 and is the love of our life.
this family?!
Posted by: omystars
Posted on: 2003-10-02 15:37:33
I won't argue about the benefits of a biological family over an adoptive family. But this family, in particular, can't possibly provide a healthy environment for this poor child to live in - he'd certainly be better off with a couple who love each other and want a baby. Don't you think?
Posted by: omystars
Posted on: 2003-10-02 15:37:33
I won't argue about the benefits of a biological family over an adoptive family. But this family, in particular, can't possibly provide a healthy environment for this poor child to live in - he'd certainly be better off with a couple who love each other and want a baby. Don't you think?
I agree
Posted by: arwen17
Posted on: 2003-10-02 20:45:40
I couldn't agree more. This child would be better off with a family who is stable and can provide everything he will need as he grows up.
Posted by: arwen17
Posted on: 2003-10-02 20:45:40
I couldn't agree more. This child would be better off with a family who is stable and can provide everything he will need as he grows up.
I AGREE
Posted by: miraclegee
Posted on: 2003-10-03 14:03:44
I like to ask where the father is and if he has been told about the child. I was raised in a foster home, because my parents were in very poor health. My father passed away and my was seriously ill. I had the best caring and loving foster parents possible, but I will always wonder how things would have been
I try my very best to put my thought behind
me, but it is hard to do. I love my life and
I am happy with 2 children and their wives
and children. However going thru that, I still thing the child in this case, with healthy parents and grandparents, could still be cared for if they want to do what is right, should be raised with the mother
of birth. I think the mother & the child will be happier as the years go by. There is
no replacement , if at all possible, for a
child to be wanted and loved by MOTHER & AUNT
& GRANDMOTHER & GRANDFATHER.
IF GOD BRINGS US TO IT
HE WILL TAKE US THROUGH IT!!
Posted by: miraclegee
Posted on: 2003-10-03 14:03:44
I like to ask where the father is and if he has been told about the child. I was raised in a foster home, because my parents were in very poor health. My father passed away and my was seriously ill. I had the best caring and loving foster parents possible, but I will always wonder how things would have been
I try my very best to put my thought behind
me, but it is hard to do. I love my life and
I am happy with 2 children and their wives
and children. However going thru that, I still thing the child in this case, with healthy parents and grandparents, could still be cared for if they want to do what is right, should be raised with the mother
of birth. I think the mother & the child will be happier as the years go by. There is
no replacement , if at all possible, for a
child to be wanted and loved by MOTHER & AUNT
& GRANDMOTHER & GRANDFATHER.
IF GOD BRINGS US TO IT
HE WILL TAKE US THROUGH IT!!
I agree
Posted by: sir5r04
Posted on: 2003-10-04 09:22:37
AT SOME POINT IN TIME THIS COUPLE WILL DIVORCE AND THEM HAVE 3 KIDS IN THE MIDDLE. PLACE THE CHILD IN A GREAT HOME AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. ANY COUPLE RUNS THE RISK OF PROBLEMS, BUT THIS ONE ALREADY HAS SOME WHOPPERS COMING OUT OF THE GATE
Posted by: sir5r04
Posted on: 2003-10-04 09:22:37
AT SOME POINT IN TIME THIS COUPLE WILL DIVORCE AND THEM HAVE 3 KIDS IN THE MIDDLE. PLACE THE CHILD IN A GREAT HOME AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. ANY COUPLE RUNS THE RISK OF PROBLEMS, BUT THIS ONE ALREADY HAS SOME WHOPPERS COMING OUT OF THE GATE
Adopters Are No Guarantee
Posted by: momcomic
Posted on: 2003-10-05 22:46:35
Adopters can provide no guarantees about a stable home. I know many adoptees who grew up in divorced homes. There are also many adoptees who have been sexually, emotionally, and physically abused by those who adopted them. Please do not think that adoption is a guarantee.
Tricia,
Truth In Adoption
Posted by: momcomic
Posted on: 2003-10-05 22:46:35
Adopters can provide no guarantees about a stable home. I know many adoptees who grew up in divorced homes. There are also many adoptees who have been sexually, emotionally, and physically abused by those who adopted them. Please do not think that adoption is a guarantee.
Tricia,
Truth In Adoption
uninformed
Posted by: tkpressley
Posted on: 2003-10-06 09:16:17
CHILDREN RUN THE SAME RISKS THAT ADOPTED CHILDREN HAVE. PEOPLE WHO ADOPT TRULY LOVE THE CHILDREN. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER CAN NOT HAVE CHILDREN. IF YOU DON'T RESEARCH THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS THEN YOU RUN THE RISK. OPEN ADOPTION TODAY IS YOUR SAFEST BET. BUT DOWN GRADE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ADOPTED, BY SAYING THE SEXUAL, EMOTIONALLY, AND PHYSICALLY ABUSE THEM IS JUST DOWN RIGHT WRONG. I COME FROM AN UNDIVORCED FAMILY AND ALL THREE HAPPENED TO ME. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR INFO, BUT READ UP.
TERESA
Posted by: tkpressley
Posted on: 2003-10-06 09:16:17
CHILDREN RUN THE SAME RISKS THAT ADOPTED CHILDREN HAVE. PEOPLE WHO ADOPT TRULY LOVE THE CHILDREN. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER CAN NOT HAVE CHILDREN. IF YOU DON'T RESEARCH THE ADOPTIVE PARENTS THEN YOU RUN THE RISK. OPEN ADOPTION TODAY IS YOUR SAFEST BET. BUT DOWN GRADE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ADOPTED, BY SAYING THE SEXUAL, EMOTIONALLY, AND PHYSICALLY ABUSE THEM IS JUST DOWN RIGHT WRONG. I COME FROM AN UNDIVORCED FAMILY AND ALL THREE HAPPENED TO ME. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR INFO, BUT READ UP.
TERESA
People do not always adopt for right reasons
Posted by: krishag
Posted on: 2003-10-07 15:17:28
people do not always adopt for the right reasons or at the right times in there lives. People who adopt do also have divorces, abuse problems, neglect, and placing a child in an adoptive home does not guarantee that the child will have a good life. However, the more you know the better off you are. This is why I think Openness in adoption is the most humane realistic option for those involved in wanting the best for a defenseless needy deserving child. If you would do a little research you would find that yes there is a huge number of adopted children who have had horrible lives at the hands of ruthless adults who have no true intrests in what is best for a child but for themselves...
...It is a fact not fiction that many many adopted children have been forced to live with for centuries...
...As hell is for children.
I am a birthmother in an open adoption situation. I happen to be well informed. I also know many very awesome adoptive parents!
Posted by: krishag
Posted on: 2003-10-07 15:17:28
people do not always adopt for the right reasons or at the right times in there lives. People who adopt do also have divorces, abuse problems, neglect, and placing a child in an adoptive home does not guarantee that the child will have a good life. However, the more you know the better off you are. This is why I think Openness in adoption is the most humane realistic option for those involved in wanting the best for a defenseless needy deserving child. If you would do a little research you would find that yes there is a huge number of adopted children who have had horrible lives at the hands of ruthless adults who have no true intrests in what is best for a child but for themselves...
...It is a fact not fiction that many many adopted children have been forced to live with for centuries...
...As hell is for children.
I am a birthmother in an open adoption situation. I happen to be well informed. I also know many very awesome adoptive parents!
