12/10 More Hormones from Hell
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Posted on: 2003-12-10 08:56:25
I wanted so much to be part of this follow up show. I am 37, and have been a raging fool for aleast 8 years.
I am so thankful that Robin was on to discuss this issue again. Besides my usual B6, Vit.E, and Mag. I have started taking Folic Acid, and flax seed oil.
My mood swings seems to be a little more tolerable, but some days, I still hate to be with myself.
My cycles are so sporadic. My hormones can rage for a month at a time. I have lost 3 jobs because of my rages and attitude problem.
Thank you Robin, for making these suggestions. I loved your first show you had on hormones and will continue to play with different supplements to regulate my rages and hot flashes. Also, your second show was great too. I will look forward to seeing you on futures shows.
God bless,
Karen in Ohio
ladyk2_@hotmail.com
hormones
Posted by: alw841966
Posted on: 2003-12-10 10:37:19
I am 37 now and at 32 I had surgery to take away all of this mood swings and all but they left my overies and nothing changed I still do the same thing I did before the surgery. I have taken everthing from prozac to perscription pain killers and still can't controll anything. I don't regret the surgery but wish I could controll the mood swings and uncontrollable out burst I still have at least 2 weeks out of the month . My family suffers every month.Thanks, Angie
Posted by: alw841966
Posted on: 2003-12-10 10:37:19
I am 37 now and at 32 I had surgery to take away all of this mood swings and all but they left my overies and nothing changed I still do the same thing I did before the surgery. I have taken everthing from prozac to perscription pain killers and still can't controll anything. I don't regret the surgery but wish I could controll the mood swings and uncontrollable out burst I still have at least 2 weeks out of the month . My family suffers every month.Thanks, Angie
Angie
Posted by: tonyatd
Posted on: 2003-12-10 17:24:05
Thanks for posting this.. I am supposed to have surgery on 12-29 and the DR and I have talked abt a partial .. and now I am so glad to know that is not what I want.
Tonya
Posted by: tonyatd
Posted on: 2003-12-10 17:24:05
Thanks for posting this.. I am supposed to have surgery on 12-29 and the DR and I have talked abt a partial .. and now I am so glad to know that is not what I want.
Tonya
Partial vs. Total Hysterectomy + surgery tips
Posted by: altmed
Posted on: 2003-12-10 21:26:13
Hi TonyaTD,
Before jumping to conclusions, take stock in what it is that is causing the mood swings...
Ask yourself & discuss with your doctor...
Have to ever had a cyst or cysts? If so, were they on the same side? Do you have a prolapse? Have you had your bone density tested? If so, what were the results? (I'd definitely do this before ever considering a total hysterectomy, due to the rsiks of osteoporosis)
I had a partial, kept one ovary (the 'good one' in my book) although the pathologist found nothing wrong with the tissue that was removed, other than a possible prolapse, all that old crap is gone with the stuff they took out, and I still have my left ovary!
Listen to YOUR body! Learn from others and best of luck to you and your upcoming surgery!
Just a few hints before you go in...
1) eat ONLY cleansing foods 1 week before surgery (I ate asparagus by the lbs., fruit juice and fruits and veggies - no potastoes or starchy foods!)
2) ask ahead of time for a very light diet!
3) ask for hot blankets to be ready for you when you get out of surgery - they work extremely well in taking away pain!
4) Bring with you meditation CDs (I burned copies of Dr. Jeffery Thompson's Theta Brainwave set and other similar - but do NOT allow them to play it overhead in the OR!!! That music is made to make people relax and sleepy - not good for a surgical team!) When I got out of surgery, I asked for my headphone and MP3/CD player immediately, and it was granted to me! It
Posted by: altmed
Posted on: 2003-12-10 21:26:13
Hi TonyaTD,
Before jumping to conclusions, take stock in what it is that is causing the mood swings...
Ask yourself & discuss with your doctor...
Have to ever had a cyst or cysts? If so, were they on the same side? Do you have a prolapse? Have you had your bone density tested? If so, what were the results? (I'd definitely do this before ever considering a total hysterectomy, due to the rsiks of osteoporosis)
I had a partial, kept one ovary (the 'good one' in my book) although the pathologist found nothing wrong with the tissue that was removed, other than a possible prolapse, all that old crap is gone with the stuff they took out, and I still have my left ovary!
Listen to YOUR body! Learn from others and best of luck to you and your upcoming surgery!
Just a few hints before you go in...
1) eat ONLY cleansing foods 1 week before surgery (I ate asparagus by the lbs., fruit juice and fruits and veggies - no potastoes or starchy foods!)
2) ask ahead of time for a very light diet!
3) ask for hot blankets to be ready for you when you get out of surgery - they work extremely well in taking away pain!
4) Bring with you meditation CDs (I burned copies of Dr. Jeffery Thompson's Theta Brainwave set and other similar - but do NOT allow them to play it overhead in the OR!!! That music is made to make people relax and sleepy - not good for a surgical team!) When I got out of surgery, I asked for my headphone and MP3/CD player immediately, and it was granted to me! It
consider pcos
Posted by: luvjimm
Posted on: 2003-12-11 10:40:02
I wonder if the doctor checked for poly cystic ovarian syndrome. I to suffered for years from painful cramping due to cysts. I had a partial hysterectomy at 23, still had the problems. It was not until I saw a nurse practioner who tested my sugar levels, they were off, she put me on glucophage, not for diabetes but for pcos, have not had ANY cramping in over a year. If you can do the research on this syndrome you will find that sugar levels in the system can cause cysts to form. I have a feeling this will be to late for the guest to see before she has her surgery but for others out there suffering from the same problem, please have your practioner research this syndrome in relation to your cramping.
Posted by: luvjimm
Posted on: 2003-12-11 10:40:02
I wonder if the doctor checked for poly cystic ovarian syndrome. I to suffered for years from painful cramping due to cysts. I had a partial hysterectomy at 23, still had the problems. It was not until I saw a nurse practioner who tested my sugar levels, they were off, she put me on glucophage, not for diabetes but for pcos, have not had ANY cramping in over a year. If you can do the research on this syndrome you will find that sugar levels in the system can cause cysts to form. I have a feeling this will be to late for the guest to see before she has her surgery but for others out there suffering from the same problem, please have your practioner research this syndrome in relation to your cramping.
P/O Syndrome
Posted by: altmed
Posted on: 2003-12-11 11:09:38
I'm almost certain I was checked for elevated androgen levels (male hormones), yet I did (and continue to have) low blood sugar (I wasn't aware high blood sugar was a sign of poly-ovarian syndrome), and a problem keeping weight on (most w/ PO syndrome have excess weight, have problems getting pregnant, etc. (I didn't have these things, but perhaps others who are considering a hysterectomy might check with their docs to see if this is a possibility, as it IS a hormonal disorder.
It stands to reason having abnormally high androgen levels, especially coupled with high or fluxuating blood sugar, could lead to some serious PMS, and PMS-type (and other female issues such as growth of facial hair, etc.) symptoms.
Perhaps this will help some people out there! :)
I would hope that anyone before they went to have a hysterectomy has had these things checked, a full work-up health-wise, and tried medication, natural & alternative means of dealing with a PMS problem prior to surgery!
Thanks fo the reply!
Altmed
Posted by: altmed
Posted on: 2003-12-11 11:09:38
I'm almost certain I was checked for elevated androgen levels (male hormones), yet I did (and continue to have) low blood sugar (I wasn't aware high blood sugar was a sign of poly-ovarian syndrome), and a problem keeping weight on (most w/ PO syndrome have excess weight, have problems getting pregnant, etc. (I didn't have these things, but perhaps others who are considering a hysterectomy might check with their docs to see if this is a possibility, as it IS a hormonal disorder.
It stands to reason having abnormally high androgen levels, especially coupled with high or fluxuating blood sugar, could lead to some serious PMS, and PMS-type (and other female issues such as growth of facial hair, etc.) symptoms.
Perhaps this will help some people out there! :)
I would hope that anyone before they went to have a hysterectomy has had these things checked, a full work-up health-wise, and tried medication, natural & alternative means of dealing with a PMS problem prior to surgery!
Thanks fo the reply!
Altmed
good ideas
Posted by: jessilynn6
Posted on: 2003-12-11 16:17:49
Hi there -
I had a hyster in August, and your doc will likely tell you what you are allowed to eat, and when prior to the surgery. It is very important to follow those instructions. Keeping or not keeping ovaries is also a big, very personal decision. I had mine taken, but I had to.
I recommend www.hystersisters.com for anyone who is having or has had a hyster. Its a wonderful site, full of info and tons of support.
Good luck to everyone!
Jess
Posted by: jessilynn6
Posted on: 2003-12-11 16:17:49
Hi there -
I had a hyster in August, and your doc will likely tell you what you are allowed to eat, and when prior to the surgery. It is very important to follow those instructions. Keeping or not keeping ovaries is also a big, very personal decision. I had mine taken, but I had to.
I recommend www.hystersisters.com for anyone who is having or has had a hyster. Its a wonderful site, full of info and tons of support.
Good luck to everyone!
Jess
yes, hystersisters
Posted by: anniecbee
Posted on: 2003-12-11 16:27:00
I had a TAH/BSO in exactly 2 years ago today. the website www.hystersisters.com really helped sooooo much - knowing what to expect & knowing that so many have already gone through this. I am better than ever, since I am now living without pain~
Annie in California
Posted by: anniecbee
Posted on: 2003-12-11 16:27:00
I had a TAH/BSO in exactly 2 years ago today. the website www.hystersisters.com really helped sooooo much - knowing what to expect & knowing that so many have already gone through this. I am better than ever, since I am now living without pain~
Annie in California
Food after Surgery
Posted by: altmed
Posted on: 2003-12-12 02:13:29
The reason I mentioned the food issue was that in the hospital, I was given (I think day 1 after surgery) the greasiest food I think I'd ever seen in my life, but was starving from nt eating, so (to my temporary demise) ate it... Needless to say, my pain levels hit the roof! I recall making some comment to the 'nutritionist' about feeding this kind of stuff to a heart patient, and he replied that they didn't give this kinda stuff to heart patients (I promptly let him know that I didn't have any desire to become one and asked for a different diet, and why ANYONE who is already sick would be fed such stuff - This stuff made McDonald's fries look like health food!) Needless to say, I had a talk with my doctor, immediately took some Lactulose (prescription human roto-rooter) I had brought with me, and asked for simply steamed veggies. The nurse told me I "couldn't take it" (the medicine), but I'd already informed her that not only had I already taken it, but that she could talk to my doctor, and I assured her I would be talking to him as well... I did and now he's adopted my diet for his patients for before and after surgery (Thank God for evryone of them!)Eating greasy or oily food after any abdominal surgery is asking for it. Even ceareals can create a problem (especially that highly processed excuse for food they have in the hospital. I suppose in part I wasn't used to eating this (even their yogert was full of sugars! YUCK!)
Anyhow, hope this is helpful to anyone who needs
Posted by: altmed
Posted on: 2003-12-12 02:13:29
The reason I mentioned the food issue was that in the hospital, I was given (I think day 1 after surgery) the greasiest food I think I'd ever seen in my life, but was starving from nt eating, so (to my temporary demise) ate it... Needless to say, my pain levels hit the roof! I recall making some comment to the 'nutritionist' about feeding this kind of stuff to a heart patient, and he replied that they didn't give this kinda stuff to heart patients (I promptly let him know that I didn't have any desire to become one and asked for a different diet, and why ANYONE who is already sick would be fed such stuff - This stuff made McDonald's fries look like health food!) Needless to say, I had a talk with my doctor, immediately took some Lactulose (prescription human roto-rooter) I had brought with me, and asked for simply steamed veggies. The nurse told me I "couldn't take it" (the medicine), but I'd already informed her that not only had I already taken it, but that she could talk to my doctor, and I assured her I would be talking to him as well... I did and now he's adopted my diet for his patients for before and after surgery (Thank God for evryone of them!)Eating greasy or oily food after any abdominal surgery is asking for it. Even ceareals can create a problem (especially that highly processed excuse for food they have in the hospital. I suppose in part I wasn't used to eating this (even their yogert was full of sugars! YUCK!)
Anyhow, hope this is helpful to anyone who needs
Posted by: mlweeman
Posted on: 2003-12-12 10:32:44
A partial hysterectomy means that your cervix was left. A total hysterectomy means the entire uterus was removed. The term hysterectomy has nothing to do with the ovaries. That is a separate medical/surgical term.
Partial vs. Total Hysterectomy + surgery tips
Posted by: aledger
Posted on: 2003-12-12 13:10:07
I absolutely agree with you. I had a partial hysterectomy at age 27. At the same time a girlfriend had a full hysterectomy. She was put on hormones and never did get the right balance for her body. She still had terrible mood swings but didn't want to risk not taking hormones because she was so young.
I continued to struggle with severe PMS but it beat having the same battle and being on drugs with potential unhealthy side effects.
Check with your doctor. I took 400 IU of vitamin E before surgery and continued it afterwards to aid in the healing process.
Good luck. A
Posted by: aledger
Posted on: 2003-12-12 13:10:07
I absolutely agree with you. I had a partial hysterectomy at age 27. At the same time a girlfriend had a full hysterectomy. She was put on hormones and never did get the right balance for her body. She still had terrible mood swings but didn't want to risk not taking hormones because she was so young.
I continued to struggle with severe PMS but it beat having the same battle and being on drugs with potential unhealthy side effects.
Check with your doctor. I took 400 IU of vitamin E before surgery and continued it afterwards to aid in the healing process.
Good luck. A
Be Sure....
Posted by: clawolf1
Posted on: 2003-12-10 21:36:29
Tonya,
I am 36 and had a partial due to cervical and womb cancer at the age of 25. I can't begin to express the happiness of knowing I was not thrown into full menopause. I will now have the chance to get ready for what most women are scared of. You need to ask questions of your Dr.. Take time in your day when you can be alone and undisturbed, and write them down. Take the paper with you and write the answers down so you can make a true choice without influence. If there is no need to rush then don't. I hate to say it but the Dr. tried to sway me and I almost went for a cervical freeze, which could have ended my life. I asked a lot of questions and was confident in my decision. When I had mine done I fought for my ovaries though, there was no sign of disease and no reason to take them. I went for check-ups every six months for five years and no sign, now just yearly. I also had a vaginal hysterectomy no scars, no long stay in the hospital, and a fast recovery. It did not change me as a woman, a person, or a mother, except it made me stronger, seek more knowledge about my body, and most of all grateful I had the time to make a informed choice.
Cassie
Posted by: clawolf1
Posted on: 2003-12-10 21:36:29
Tonya,
I am 36 and had a partial due to cervical and womb cancer at the age of 25. I can't begin to express the happiness of knowing I was not thrown into full menopause. I will now have the chance to get ready for what most women are scared of. You need to ask questions of your Dr.. Take time in your day when you can be alone and undisturbed, and write them down. Take the paper with you and write the answers down so you can make a true choice without influence. If there is no need to rush then don't. I hate to say it but the Dr. tried to sway me and I almost went for a cervical freeze, which could have ended my life. I asked a lot of questions and was confident in my decision. When I had mine done I fought for my ovaries though, there was no sign of disease and no reason to take them. I went for check-ups every six months for five years and no sign, now just yearly. I also had a vaginal hysterectomy no scars, no long stay in the hospital, and a fast recovery. It did not change me as a woman, a person, or a mother, except it made me stronger, seek more knowledge about my body, and most of all grateful I had the time to make a informed choice.
Cassie
Partial v Total Hyst
Posted by: mlweeman
Posted on: 2003-12-12 10:29:14
Hi
I just wanted to clarify something: hysterectomy only refers to the removal of the uterus. A total hysterectomy is the removal of the entire uterus including the cervix. A partial hysterectomy is the removal of part of the uterus, leaving the cervix (which is part of the uterus, the opening). Removal of the ovaries has a different term altogether: Bilateral Salpingo Oophetectomy (or BSO).
So a total hysterectomy does not mean that you had your ovaries out. And saying partial hysterectomy means your cervix was left.
Posted by: mlweeman
Posted on: 2003-12-12 10:29:14
Hi
I just wanted to clarify something: hysterectomy only refers to the removal of the uterus. A total hysterectomy is the removal of the entire uterus including the cervix. A partial hysterectomy is the removal of part of the uterus, leaving the cervix (which is part of the uterus, the opening). Removal of the ovaries has a different term altogether: Bilateral Salpingo Oophetectomy (or BSO).
So a total hysterectomy does not mean that you had your ovaries out. And saying partial hysterectomy means your cervix was left.
surgery
Posted by: kgb42741
Posted on: 2003-12-10 21:54:06
Tonya i had a partial hysterectomy when i was 32 and wished i knew then what i learned at 60.i had to go back and have a total and the DR. wanted to do a scope and explained what may happen and i told him to cut and see what was going on inside and he did and i had a small tumor on the right ovary noncancerous that did not show on the scan.i wished i had a total at 32.i have never felt better and can not take hormones.tried at 32 after surgery and wound up with blood clots.Wishing you the very best and have lots of faith.KGB
Posted by: kgb42741
Posted on: 2003-12-10 21:54:06
Tonya i had a partial hysterectomy when i was 32 and wished i knew then what i learned at 60.i had to go back and have a total and the DR. wanted to do a scope and explained what may happen and i told him to cut and see what was going on inside and he did and i had a small tumor on the right ovary noncancerous that did not show on the scan.i wished i had a total at 32.i have never felt better and can not take hormones.tried at 32 after surgery and wound up with blood clots.Wishing you the very best and have lots of faith.KGB
HOT FLASHS ....HELP
Posted by: crazynana3
Posted on: 2003-12-11 12:38:15
Could someone tell me the name of the item that Robin said helped her HOT FLASHES. She said it was shaped like a chap stick tube. That she used it several times a day in the beginning and now not as often. She talked about this in the very beginning of the show and I had to leave and didn't catch it's name. Please help me get the name to this. Thank you!
Posted by: crazynana3
Posted on: 2003-12-11 12:38:15
Could someone tell me the name of the item that Robin said helped her HOT FLASHES. She said it was shaped like a chap stick tube. That she used it several times a day in the beginning and now not as often. She talked about this in the very beginning of the show and I had to leave and didn't catch it's name. Please help me get the name to this. Thank you!
Hot Flashes
Posted by: stormy1012
Posted on: 2003-12-11 15:13:38
Do you know who the manufacturer of "Sepia" is or where to get it? I have been taking Estradiol, but have gone off it, with my dr.'s OK, but the hot flashes have returned BIG TIME.
Posted by: stormy1012
Posted on: 2003-12-11 15:13:38
Do you know who the manufacturer of "Sepia" is or where to get it? I have been taking Estradiol, but have gone off it, with my dr.'s OK, but the hot flashes have returned BIG TIME.
Hot Flashes
Posted by: txkoolkat
Posted on: 2003-12-11 18:18:22
She said she gets it at a nutrition store. I believe you could probably get it at GNC. I'm going to be checking it out myself. Good luck
Posted by: txkoolkat
Posted on: 2003-12-11 18:18:22
She said she gets it at a nutrition store. I believe you could probably get it at GNC. I'm going to be checking it out myself. Good luck
Sepia
Posted by: docere
Posted on: 2003-12-12 14:56:30
Sepia will not be sold at GNC. Sepia is a homepathic remedy. You will find it at health food stores selling homepathics or you can obtain it froma naturopathic doctor (ND). I am an ND and I felt I just had to come on and make it known that there are professionals out there (NDs spend 4 years at the post graduate level studying the proper natural treatment of health complaints)who can help women with PMS, menopause or any other health complaint. You do not need to "play around" with supplements hoping to find a combo that works for you. This can be a waste of time and money, natural products can also interact with prescription medications and some products can cause unpleasant side effects when taken by the wrong patient. An N.D can help you to identify your individual needs and guide you in the best direction. I will be happy to help answer some general questions here if any of you need professional advice.
Posted by: docere
Posted on: 2003-12-12 14:56:30
Sepia will not be sold at GNC. Sepia is a homepathic remedy. You will find it at health food stores selling homepathics or you can obtain it froma naturopathic doctor (ND). I am an ND and I felt I just had to come on and make it known that there are professionals out there (NDs spend 4 years at the post graduate level studying the proper natural treatment of health complaints)who can help women with PMS, menopause or any other health complaint. You do not need to "play around" with supplements hoping to find a combo that works for you. This can be a waste of time and money, natural products can also interact with prescription medications and some products can cause unpleasant side effects when taken by the wrong patient. An N.D can help you to identify your individual needs and guide you in the best direction. I will be happy to help answer some general questions here if any of you need professional advice.
Posted by: jojowilt
Posted on: 2003-12-12 15:08:41
dear nd I am 31 and had a complete hysterectomy at age 29. They took everything, ovaries, tubes, uterus, and cervix. I am currently on estratest, just started this 5 weeks ago, not very pleasant side effects(anger, rage). I was on premarin before and i just didn't feel "normal". Mood swings, irritable, no energy etc. Doc also put me on zoloft for depression. No depression before hyst though. My sex drive is nonexistent. I would like to go all natural if possible. Some people say no because of being younger and some people say yes. I don't know where to start. I just want to feel normal. Thanks so much, Jody
