02/28 Town Controversies
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Posted by: cozynurse
Posted on: 2003-02-28 11:05:22
Something more could be done with this guy like putting him on house arrest with a band around his leg that will not allow him to leave his house. They do that here in Ohio for people who have done a lot less than what he did.
Posted by: cozynurse
Posted on: 2003-02-28 11:05:22
Something more could be done with this guy like putting him on house arrest with a band around his leg that will not allow him to leave his house. They do that here in Ohio for people who have done a lot less than what he did.
C'Mon
Posted by: valpie1
Posted on: 2003-02-28 16:31:10
Everyone is sooooo worried about the child molester that lives next door...well, I'm worried too, BUT...my mom married my child molester. My step dad molested me.
I live in a large city and hear on the news regularly that "single mother leaves child with boyfriend and comes home to find child dead or sexually abused". DUH real smart.
So what about the child molester lurking in your own home?
The child molestor that is "KNOWN" is far less a threat than the one you bring in to your own home.
Single moms....think about that one.
I don't trust anyone.
Posted by: valpie1
Posted on: 2003-02-28 16:31:10
Everyone is sooooo worried about the child molester that lives next door...well, I'm worried too, BUT...my mom married my child molester. My step dad molested me.
I live in a large city and hear on the news regularly that "single mother leaves child with boyfriend and comes home to find child dead or sexually abused". DUH real smart.
So what about the child molester lurking in your own home?
The child molestor that is "KNOWN" is far less a threat than the one you bring in to your own home.
Single moms....think about that one.
I don't trust anyone.
Good Grief!!
Posted by: bweeden
Posted on: 2003-02-28 18:31:51
All the passion and concern these parents have for the safety of their own children, only because they KNOW there is a sex offender in their neighborhood?????
These parents should have always !!! been this protective of their children. Think of all the child predators in the neighborhood that haven't been found out, turned in or charged. THINK!!
Posted by: bweeden
Posted on: 2003-02-28 18:31:51
All the passion and concern these parents have for the safety of their own children, only because they KNOW there is a sex offender in their neighborhood?????
These parents should have always !!! been this protective of their children. Think of all the child predators in the neighborhood that haven't been found out, turned in or charged. THINK!!
Exactly
Posted by: kitamarie
Posted on: 2003-02-28 19:46:37
Exactly right. This should be an ongoing battle between us as a society and them as child harmers. These issues should be ongoing everyday until these issues are solved the right way and for good. For all these parents know the neighbor across the street might be a child molester that hasn't been caught or hasn't been "outted" yet. There are child molesters and abusers all around us, everyday, everywhere. Parents should look out for their children all the time, every minute of the day. Child abusers and molesters do not have to wear a sign on them alerting us as a society to them and their whereabouts and parents need to realize everyone is a potential harm to their children.
Posted by: kitamarie
Posted on: 2003-02-28 19:46:37
Exactly right. This should be an ongoing battle between us as a society and them as child harmers. These issues should be ongoing everyday until these issues are solved the right way and for good. For all these parents know the neighbor across the street might be a child molester that hasn't been caught or hasn't been "outted" yet. There are child molesters and abusers all around us, everyday, everywhere. Parents should look out for their children all the time, every minute of the day. Child abusers and molesters do not have to wear a sign on them alerting us as a society to them and their whereabouts and parents need to realize everyone is a potential harm to their children.
Posted by: sbinwi
Posted on: 2003-03-01 10:15:01
A current & obvious threat of danger by a child molester that HAS been prosecuted of the crime, to me, is different than living life AS IF a child molester lived next door. A BIG difference!
As a parent of three children ages 1-5, I would be horrified to learn this man moved next door to me. Why? If this man turns out to be the ONE molester that doesn't keep his addiction under control, who's child will he victimize? The one two town's over or the one he sees out his window everyday!
Why should our children be the states guiney pigs? Put them out in the community knowing that MOST offenders can't control the addiction & wait for them to commit the crime that will put them away for life. Do you want to live with the guilt if your child was assaulted or worse killed because you chose to give a convicted sexual offender a second chance. Not me!! I don't blame these parents for standing up & protecting their rights & rights of innocent children.
Wake up People
Posted by: bweeden
Posted on: 2003-03-02 13:13:10
No problem being upset about the convicted sex offender, child abuser, pedophile etc. being placed in "YOUR" neighborhood. I just want people to wake up and open their eyes. Prior to this being an "issue" in their neighborhoods I'll bet a majority of people thought they lived in a safe little elite neighborhood that was free of scum of the earth. HA!! I'll bet there are at least 1 or more offenders in their little neighborhoods that no one is aware of because they were never caught or prosecuted. This is what I have an issue about. These parents that get all up in arms about not wanting these"people" in their neighborhoods fail to see the need for the same caution they have now each and everyday of their childrens lives no matter where they live.
I just hope that when this sex offender is removed from their neighborhood ( which I understand he will be), that they continue with the same level of safety for their children and the same awareness.
You and I know that most of these parents with the loudest voices right now, will fall back into their little false sense of security world again.
SAD....very SAD
Posted by: bweeden
Posted on: 2003-03-02 13:13:10
No problem being upset about the convicted sex offender, child abuser, pedophile etc. being placed in "YOUR" neighborhood. I just want people to wake up and open their eyes. Prior to this being an "issue" in their neighborhoods I'll bet a majority of people thought they lived in a safe little elite neighborhood that was free of scum of the earth. HA!! I'll bet there are at least 1 or more offenders in their little neighborhoods that no one is aware of because they were never caught or prosecuted. This is what I have an issue about. These parents that get all up in arms about not wanting these"people" in their neighborhoods fail to see the need for the same caution they have now each and everyday of their childrens lives no matter where they live.
I just hope that when this sex offender is removed from their neighborhood ( which I understand he will be), that they continue with the same level of safety for their children and the same awareness.
You and I know that most of these parents with the loudest voices right now, will fall back into their little false sense of security world again.
SAD....very SAD
Where shall we put them?
Posted by: cdntara
Posted on: 2003-03-03 05:03:20
I realize that none of us want sexual predators to live in our neighborhoods, or beside us. But honestly, where do you expect the authorities to allow them to be? It is unreasonable to assume that they can stay in jail for the rest of their lives, for a number of reasons. The costs are too prohibative. Jail overcrowding is a major issue in both American and Canadian jails/prisons. While we can rely on research that suggests that most sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated, does that mean that NONE can be? I do not believe this to be the case. These predators need to go someplace when they get out of jail, and heaven forbid it, but it could just be in my neighborhood. I may have to take more precaution, but is it any different than knowing a car theif is living next door? Do you get an alarm installed on your car? Most likely yes, you would take extra precautions. This is what you would need to do if a sexual predator moved in too. Everyone, no matter how horrible their past is, deserves to live someplace, and that someplace could be your neighborhood.
ALBERTA
Posted by: cdntara
Posted on: 2003-03-03 05:03:20
I realize that none of us want sexual predators to live in our neighborhoods, or beside us. But honestly, where do you expect the authorities to allow them to be? It is unreasonable to assume that they can stay in jail for the rest of their lives, for a number of reasons. The costs are too prohibative. Jail overcrowding is a major issue in both American and Canadian jails/prisons. While we can rely on research that suggests that most sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated, does that mean that NONE can be? I do not believe this to be the case. These predators need to go someplace when they get out of jail, and heaven forbid it, but it could just be in my neighborhood. I may have to take more precaution, but is it any different than knowing a car theif is living next door? Do you get an alarm installed on your car? Most likely yes, you would take extra precautions. This is what you would need to do if a sexual predator moved in too. Everyone, no matter how horrible their past is, deserves to live someplace, and that someplace could be your neighborhood.
ALBERTA
My uncle
Posted by: redhed77
Posted on: 2003-06-11 23:17:21
My Uncle is a child molester. He raped my sister when we were young and tried several times to "touch" me. He molested all my cousins he even raped my mom when she and my father first got together. He was caught by police, going to the Fairgrounds and offering candy so he could get them on his lap, etc. He was arrested and sentenced to several years but only served 2 and got out for "good behavior". All the while, his wife stood beside him even though he molested his own grandchildren. Today, he lives in South East Ohio in his home he's lived in for 38 years. The neighbors were not alerted, no fliers were given out. No one knows who lives in that gray house. Is he rehibilited? I don't think so.He never got counceling. Should the neighborhood know? YES! If my whole family would have went forward when he was sentenced he would still be behind bars because they would have thrown the book at him. My point, we all know, live by, talk to, look at, speak to, and love one of these individuals. They don't all have to be convicted to be a threat. Watch out for ALL children be alert at all times. Listen to yourself, if you feel something is wrong chances are, something is and listen to your children believe what they say. My parents were in denial about my uncle. No one listened to my sister or I. We're all survivors.
Posted by: redhed77
Posted on: 2003-06-11 23:17:21
My Uncle is a child molester. He raped my sister when we were young and tried several times to "touch" me. He molested all my cousins he even raped my mom when she and my father first got together. He was caught by police, going to the Fairgrounds and offering candy so he could get them on his lap, etc. He was arrested and sentenced to several years but only served 2 and got out for "good behavior". All the while, his wife stood beside him even though he molested his own grandchildren. Today, he lives in South East Ohio in his home he's lived in for 38 years. The neighbors were not alerted, no fliers were given out. No one knows who lives in that gray house. Is he rehibilited? I don't think so.He never got counceling. Should the neighborhood know? YES! If my whole family would have went forward when he was sentenced he would still be behind bars because they would have thrown the book at him. My point, we all know, live by, talk to, look at, speak to, and love one of these individuals. They don't all have to be convicted to be a threat. Watch out for ALL children be alert at all times. Listen to yourself, if you feel something is wrong chances are, something is and listen to your children believe what they say. My parents were in denial about my uncle. No one listened to my sister or I. We're all survivors.
exactly
Posted by: sugar33003
Posted on: 2003-02-28 18:43:14
My aunts boyfriend molested me and she is marrying him and she dis-owned me. I have to live with that everyday of my life at least it didnt' happen to them!!
Posted by: sugar33003
Posted on: 2003-02-28 18:43:14
My aunts boyfriend molested me and she is marrying him and she dis-owned me. I have to live with that everyday of my life at least it didnt' happen to them!!
To sugar33003
Posted by: brigmommy
Posted on: 2003-02-28 19:35:39
This is truly sorrowful, and I am sorry you have to endure this pain in your life. My husband and I know firsthand how difficult it is to be disowned by someone you love to be traded for a reprobate. You have our condolences.
Posted by: brigmommy
Posted on: 2003-02-28 19:35:39
This is truly sorrowful, and I am sorry you have to endure this pain in your life. My husband and I know firsthand how difficult it is to be disowned by someone you love to be traded for a reprobate. You have our condolences.
I hear you sugar
Posted by: bweeden
Posted on: 2003-03-01 22:25:58
I hear you sugar. My stepfather sexually abused me and my mother stayed with him. This was all brought to light 26 years ago prior to the days of prosecution. I finally disowned my mother 2 years ago, wrote her a letter, said I do not want you in my life anymore. You chose him over me, and now you have lost me for good. Sugar, you need to disown your aunt, you DON"T need someone like her in your life. I woke up 24 years after the abuse stopped.
A note to those out there upset about the convicted abusers living in your neighborhood....mine was never charged and was an upstanding citizen in many peoples eyes. Keep that in mind when you think of your next door neighbor, or their grandpa, or uncle. Scarry isn't it? You........... just.......... never.....know.
Posted by: bweeden
Posted on: 2003-03-01 22:25:58
I hear you sugar. My stepfather sexually abused me and my mother stayed with him. This was all brought to light 26 years ago prior to the days of prosecution. I finally disowned my mother 2 years ago, wrote her a letter, said I do not want you in my life anymore. You chose him over me, and now you have lost me for good. Sugar, you need to disown your aunt, you DON"T need someone like her in your life. I woke up 24 years after the abuse stopped.
A note to those out there upset about the convicted abusers living in your neighborhood....mine was never charged and was an upstanding citizen in many peoples eyes. Keep that in mind when you think of your next door neighbor, or their grandpa, or uncle. Scarry isn't it? You........... just.......... never.....know.
C'MON
Posted by: poosiey
Posted on: 2003-03-01 04:59:49
I DON'T TRUST ANYONE EITHER ESPECIALLY A MAN. THEY ARE CAPABLE OF ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO SEX. THEY WILL HAVE SEX WITH ANOTHER MAN, AN ANIMAL, THEIR MOTHERS, BABIES, BLOW-UP DOLLS. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
I DO LOVE MEN BUT I DON'T PUT ANYTHING PAST THEM. MY DAUGHTER IS 18 YEARS OLD AND HER DAD AND I HAVE APART NOW FOR OVER 6 YEARS. TO THIS DAY, SHE'S NEVER SEEN ME WITH ANOTHER MAN NOT THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ALRIGHT BUT NOT WHILE SHE IS LIVING WITH ME. HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T BE TOO MUCH LONGER.
NEW JERSEY
Posted by: poosiey
Posted on: 2003-03-01 04:59:49
I DON'T TRUST ANYONE EITHER ESPECIALLY A MAN. THEY ARE CAPABLE OF ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO SEX. THEY WILL HAVE SEX WITH ANOTHER MAN, AN ANIMAL, THEIR MOTHERS, BABIES, BLOW-UP DOLLS. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.
I DO LOVE MEN BUT I DON'T PUT ANYTHING PAST THEM. MY DAUGHTER IS 18 YEARS OLD AND HER DAD AND I HAVE APART NOW FOR OVER 6 YEARS. TO THIS DAY, SHE'S NEVER SEEN ME WITH ANOTHER MAN NOT THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ALRIGHT BUT NOT WHILE SHE IS LIVING WITH ME. HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T BE TOO MUCH LONGER.
NEW JERSEY
Men aren't the only bad ones...
Posted by: cdntara
Posted on: 2003-03-03 04:54:39
I would like to make a comment on your issue of not trusting men at all because they are capable of anything when it comes to sex. Are women not capable of the same things? We have sexual predators that are women, we have rapists that are women. While the numbers are lower, we cannot stereotype men as demons, and horrible beings. This is totally unfair, and doesn't in fact represent the truth in the matter. A woman can be just as dangerous as a man, possibly more dangerous. I think society tends to trust women more in emotional issues, and therefore women, I think, have greater access to our children. So should we fear everyone then? No, we should not group all men or all women into the untrustworthy pile. We need to assess every person individually and choose the ones which we trust and the ones that we encourage our children to trust.
ALBERTA
Posted by: cdntara
Posted on: 2003-03-03 04:54:39
I would like to make a comment on your issue of not trusting men at all because they are capable of anything when it comes to sex. Are women not capable of the same things? We have sexual predators that are women, we have rapists that are women. While the numbers are lower, we cannot stereotype men as demons, and horrible beings. This is totally unfair, and doesn't in fact represent the truth in the matter. A woman can be just as dangerous as a man, possibly more dangerous. I think society tends to trust women more in emotional issues, and therefore women, I think, have greater access to our children. So should we fear everyone then? No, we should not group all men or all women into the untrustworthy pile. We need to assess every person individually and choose the ones which we trust and the ones that we encourage our children to trust.
ALBERTA
Child Molseter Next Door
Posted by: pincorrect
Posted on: 2003-03-01 16:30:10
Back at the start of the twentieth century and up to around 1950 when political correctness became the rage, most states had a very effective method for rehabilitating persons who kidnap, rape and murder people regardless of the age of the victim. It involved the use of a length of hemp rope, the electric chair, or similar device. There no problem in finding a place for them to live.
Posted by: pincorrect
Posted on: 2003-03-01 16:30:10
Back at the start of the twentieth century and up to around 1950 when political correctness became the rage, most states had a very effective method for rehabilitating persons who kidnap, rape and murder people regardless of the age of the victim. It involved the use of a length of hemp rope, the electric chair, or similar device. There no problem in finding a place for them to live.
town controversies
Posted by: sunburnt62
Posted on: 2003-03-04 09:10:42
There is nothing to talk about when it comes to a child molester. I'm 60yrs. old, and was molested as a child by my grandfather. He was one of the neighborhoods mentally ill. The molester looses there right to what should be called making love. castrate them. It can't get any simler than that!
Posted by: sunburnt62
Posted on: 2003-03-04 09:10:42
There is nothing to talk about when it comes to a child molester. I'm 60yrs. old, and was molested as a child by my grandfather. He was one of the neighborhoods mentally ill. The molester looses there right to what should be called making love. castrate them. It can't get any simler than that!
whip um
Posted by: brucesue
Posted on: 2003-04-23 16:03:50
I THINK THEY SHOULD TURN CHILD MOLESTERS
LOOSE IN A CROWD, NAKED ON THE STREETS AND LET PEOPLE BEAT THEM WITH STICKS. THEY DO IN IRAQ FOR LOOTING. OR PUT THEM ALL ON AN ISLAND AND LET THEM MOLEST EACH OTHER,MAYBE
IF THEY FACE THEIR SIN,WITH GOD's HELP THEY CAN BE REHABED,BUT WHILE ON EARTH THEY SHOULD STAY LOCKED UP.
Posted by: brucesue
Posted on: 2003-04-23 16:03:50
I THINK THEY SHOULD TURN CHILD MOLESTERS
LOOSE IN A CROWD, NAKED ON THE STREETS AND LET PEOPLE BEAT THEM WITH STICKS. THEY DO IN IRAQ FOR LOOTING. OR PUT THEM ALL ON AN ISLAND AND LET THEM MOLEST EACH OTHER,MAYBE
IF THEY FACE THEIR SIN,WITH GOD's HELP THEY CAN BE REHABED,BUT WHILE ON EARTH THEY SHOULD STAY LOCKED UP.
Posted by: mikefulmer
Posted on: 2003-02-28 16:55:10
I watched the entire show, did not miss even one minute of it. I watched that lady with the kids cry and felt her pain, and yes, I will give you this, she was wrong for her actions from start to finish, just like the caregiver was, and she knows that as well as anyone. Why is it that it is only the horrific cases that are brought to light? What about the thousands of cases every year that are filed, followed through and yet have no basis to them at all?. What do we do about the case workers who just do what they have to do in order to get a paycheck and move on to the next case, regardless if the parents actually did anything wrong or not?. I can almost tell you why, and it really does happen, wether any so called "expert" says it does or not. It happens because there is a runaway arrogance and a TOTAL lack of understanding within not only the system that is suppossed to protect these kids, but also a sense that it dosen't matter as long as I get a paycheck, with some of the workers, AND supervisors. Now, with relation to this "chester" that moved in next door to all these kids, god does my heart ever go out to those parents. If it were me I know that I would be freaking out and going nuts, so I cant even imagine what must be going through their minds with him around. I will say this though, and I learned this the hard way through my above mentioned ordeal. We can get as mad as we want, and we can rant and rave and make threats and wish people dead and all of that, but in the
Lack of Understanding
Posted by: sinnndi
Posted on: 2003-03-01 07:42:19
I agree it is very frustrating to have to endure the inconsistencies of agencies and the lack of monitoring but the system is here with tax dollars and when cuts are made so are the workers, those caseworkers do not get paid a wealthy wage and they usually have way too many cases than what they should have due to shortages in staffing which would be or should be on the shoulders of the state!! Maybe we should start from the bottom up with helping to stop the cycle of the abusers instead of trying to put a band-aid on the situation. There is not enough foster homes for these kids to go to and that is tragic because sometimes the foster homes are not any better because there is lack of monitoring, once again enter in funding. I have chosen a profession in social work and let me tell you it is not for the paycheck!!
Posted by: sinnndi
Posted on: 2003-03-01 07:42:19
I agree it is very frustrating to have to endure the inconsistencies of agencies and the lack of monitoring but the system is here with tax dollars and when cuts are made so are the workers, those caseworkers do not get paid a wealthy wage and they usually have way too many cases than what they should have due to shortages in staffing which would be or should be on the shoulders of the state!! Maybe we should start from the bottom up with helping to stop the cycle of the abusers instead of trying to put a band-aid on the situation. There is not enough foster homes for these kids to go to and that is tragic because sometimes the foster homes are not any better because there is lack of monitoring, once again enter in funding. I have chosen a profession in social work and let me tell you it is not for the paycheck!!
I dont get it, but I would like an answer
Posted by: mikefulmer
Posted on: 2003-02-28 16:57:19
I watched the entire show, did not miss even one minute of it. I watched that lady with the kids cry and felt her pain, and yes, I will give you this, she was wrong for her actions from start to finish, just like the caregiver was, and she knows that as well as anyone. Why is it that it is only the horrific cases that are brought to light? what about the thousands of cases every year that are filed, followed through and yet have no basis to them at all?. What do we do about the case workers who just do what they have to do in order to get a paycheck and move on to the next case, regardless if the parents actually did anything wrong or not?. It happens because there is a runaway arrogance and a TOTAL lack of understanding within not only the system that is suppossed to protect these kids, but also a sense that it dosen't matter as long as I get a paycheck, with some of the workers, AND supervisors. Now, with relation to this man that moved in next door to all these kids, god does my heart ever go out to those parents. If it were me I know that I would be freaking out and going nuts, so I cant even imagine what must be going through their minds with him around. I will say this though, and I learned this the hard way through my above mentioned ordeal. We can get as mad as we want, and we can rant and rave and make threats and wish people dead and all of that, but in the end, the only effective thing one can really do, is pray because doing anything else, is only gonna hurt you a
Posted by: mikefulmer
Posted on: 2003-02-28 16:57:19
I watched the entire show, did not miss even one minute of it. I watched that lady with the kids cry and felt her pain, and yes, I will give you this, she was wrong for her actions from start to finish, just like the caregiver was, and she knows that as well as anyone. Why is it that it is only the horrific cases that are brought to light? what about the thousands of cases every year that are filed, followed through and yet have no basis to them at all?. What do we do about the case workers who just do what they have to do in order to get a paycheck and move on to the next case, regardless if the parents actually did anything wrong or not?. It happens because there is a runaway arrogance and a TOTAL lack of understanding within not only the system that is suppossed to protect these kids, but also a sense that it dosen't matter as long as I get a paycheck, with some of the workers, AND supervisors. Now, with relation to this man that moved in next door to all these kids, god does my heart ever go out to those parents. If it were me I know that I would be freaking out and going nuts, so I cant even imagine what must be going through their minds with him around. I will say this though, and I learned this the hard way through my above mentioned ordeal. We can get as mad as we want, and we can rant and rave and make threats and wish people dead and all of that, but in the end, the only effective thing one can really do, is pray because doing anything else, is only gonna hurt you a
Unturned Rocks
Posted by: bjsammons
Posted on: 2003-02-28 11:20:07
I feel like something very important was left out of the show...This is a danger that exists everywhere, right now! This man and people like him do not just crawl out from under a rock. Did anyone have any indication that he was capable of such a thing? Probably not. If we have to change the way we protect our children because this has happened to someone else, then we waited to long and it could have very easily been us. These folks are focused on removing the danger they know of and rightfully so, but what do we do to protect our children against the dangers that we do NOT know about?
Posted by: bjsammons
Posted on: 2003-02-28 11:20:07
I feel like something very important was left out of the show...This is a danger that exists everywhere, right now! This man and people like him do not just crawl out from under a rock. Did anyone have any indication that he was capable of such a thing? Probably not. If we have to change the way we protect our children because this has happened to someone else, then we waited to long and it could have very easily been us. These folks are focused on removing the danger they know of and rightfully so, but what do we do to protect our children against the dangers that we do NOT know about?
