05/23 Fifteen Minutes of Fame
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Posted by: jmethegirl
Posted on: 2003-05-23 08:41:36
I was just watching todays segment with the woman whos 6 yr old wants to break into acting. Thank you for telling her about the price of fame by mentioning all the child actors who have gone down a destructive road when the fame ended. I would suggest that the safer road is to let this child sign up for school plays or local theater, and when he is more mature he can pursue his dreams of stardom if he still wants to.
Posted by: jmethegirl
Posted on: 2003-05-23 08:41:36
I was just watching todays segment with the woman whos 6 yr old wants to break into acting. Thank you for telling her about the price of fame by mentioning all the child actors who have gone down a destructive road when the fame ended. I would suggest that the safer road is to let this child sign up for school plays or local theater, and when he is more mature he can pursue his dreams of stardom if he still wants to.
Child Star
Posted by: dianebill
Posted on: 2003-05-23 10:24:24
It seems like the mother is trying to relive her younger days. She was exposed to "attention" and maybe because she didnt make it she wants to live in her son shoes. I can understand wanting to help your child but it seems she is trying to make up for her childhood dreams.
Posted by: dianebill
Posted on: 2003-05-23 10:24:24
It seems like the mother is trying to relive her younger days. She was exposed to "attention" and maybe because she didnt make it she wants to live in her son shoes. I can understand wanting to help your child but it seems she is trying to make up for her childhood dreams.
Not really
Posted by: robean2
Posted on: 2003-05-23 10:44:39
I haven't been able to see the finished show yet, however I will later today. I know it looks as if I am living through my son, but really I am not. Yes, I was in pageants and modeling myself, but not at the level of my son. I also did not start doing it until I was a young adult. This is something he truly loves, and wants to do. He tried baseball, and quit because he really wanted to focus on entertaining. Yes, he is young, but many parents do the same thing I am doing in sports with their children. They also spend alot of money, and drive their kids around to tournaments etc. Children are often pushed for hours at a time in sports. So why is this different? I do enjoy being involved in the entertainment business, as my husband is also a musician, but I really am not trying to relive my dream. I just enjoy it for them. I enjoy their happiness and excitement. The trips out of town are also an excellent bonding experience for my son and I. We have a blast. The day he wants to quit, he can quit. I do believe children can have dreams of what they want to do.
Posted by: robean2
Posted on: 2003-05-23 10:44:39
I haven't been able to see the finished show yet, however I will later today. I know it looks as if I am living through my son, but really I am not. Yes, I was in pageants and modeling myself, but not at the level of my son. I also did not start doing it until I was a young adult. This is something he truly loves, and wants to do. He tried baseball, and quit because he really wanted to focus on entertaining. Yes, he is young, but many parents do the same thing I am doing in sports with their children. They also spend alot of money, and drive their kids around to tournaments etc. Children are often pushed for hours at a time in sports. So why is this different? I do enjoy being involved in the entertainment business, as my husband is also a musician, but I really am not trying to relive my dream. I just enjoy it for them. I enjoy their happiness and excitement. The trips out of town are also an excellent bonding experience for my son and I. We have a blast. The day he wants to quit, he can quit. I do believe children can have dreams of what they want to do.
dylan
Posted by: jenbpcru
Posted on: 2003-05-23 14:46:42
To Dylan's Mom,
You guys look very familiar, had you and your son been on another Dr. Phil or Oprah show in the past?
Posted by: jenbpcru
Posted on: 2003-05-23 14:46:42
To Dylan's Mom,
You guys look very familiar, had you and your son been on another Dr. Phil or Oprah show in the past?
dylan
Posted by: lovetater
Posted on: 2003-05-23 15:38:03
It seems that the mom here is the one that needs the attention. Wasnt it you two that were on Oprah not long ago saying that your son was controlling your household. It appears that you are craving the attention, using your son to do just that.
Posted by: lovetater
Posted on: 2003-05-23 15:38:03
It seems that the mom here is the one that needs the attention. Wasnt it you two that were on Oprah not long ago saying that your son was controlling your household. It appears that you are craving the attention, using your son to do just that.
That's just what I was thinking
Posted by: candy7777
Posted on: 2003-05-24 14:20:28
Dylan & his parents were on Oprah before. On Oprah, Dylan was described as ruling the house & he watches tv all day & night long & his parents have no control over him. If they stop him from watching tv, he screams! Remember that show?
Candy7777
Posted by: candy7777
Posted on: 2003-05-24 14:20:28
Dylan & his parents were on Oprah before. On Oprah, Dylan was described as ruling the house & he watches tv all day & night long & his parents have no control over him. If they stop him from watching tv, he screams! Remember that show?
Candy7777
you're correct!
Posted by: mumaru
Posted on: 2003-05-24 18:14:50
I sent a note in yesterday about this but I don't see it displayed...they were on because of his behavior problem with the tv.. not letting his mom shut it off...not even when he sleeps.. not only is the Dylan in for a rude awakening in life... but his parents should prepare for the rollercoaster ride this kid is going to take them on if they let this continue.. they need to take a check on what's important to them ... anyway, I wrote in about it . I was just shocked to see them again with another "problem".
Posted by: mumaru
Posted on: 2003-05-24 18:14:50
I sent a note in yesterday about this but I don't see it displayed...they were on because of his behavior problem with the tv.. not letting his mom shut it off...not even when he sleeps.. not only is the Dylan in for a rude awakening in life... but his parents should prepare for the rollercoaster ride this kid is going to take them on if they let this continue.. they need to take a check on what's important to them ... anyway, I wrote in about it . I was just shocked to see them again with another "problem".
Fame at 6
Posted by: nyb2948
Posted on: 2003-05-23 19:07:07
I don't think anyone feels you are a bad mom for wanting this for your child. The thing that struck me was that you were letting your 6 year old dictate your life; your quitting your job, your husband having to get a 2nd job to support this dream. What if he wanted to quit school to pursue this? Would you let him?.....no What if he wanted to move away from home and live by himself so he could pursue this dream full time? Would you let him?......no. He is 6 years old and what he wants should be tempered by what is in his best interests. I feel the same way about parents who are consummed by sports and feel like the child has to be in everything that comes along so they can be popular or like the other kids. You called the show asking if you were over the top in pursuing this to this extent at age 6. That tells me you already think you are......or you wouldn't have to ask. You seem like a nice person.....just don't get caught up in something that will cost him his childhood and your family.
Posted by: nyb2948
Posted on: 2003-05-23 19:07:07
I don't think anyone feels you are a bad mom for wanting this for your child. The thing that struck me was that you were letting your 6 year old dictate your life; your quitting your job, your husband having to get a 2nd job to support this dream. What if he wanted to quit school to pursue this? Would you let him?.....no What if he wanted to move away from home and live by himself so he could pursue this dream full time? Would you let him?......no. He is 6 years old and what he wants should be tempered by what is in his best interests. I feel the same way about parents who are consummed by sports and feel like the child has to be in everything that comes along so they can be popular or like the other kids. You called the show asking if you were over the top in pursuing this to this extent at age 6. That tells me you already think you are......or you wouldn't have to ask. You seem like a nice person.....just don't get caught up in something that will cost him his childhood and your family.
fame at 6
Posted by: robean2
Posted on: 2003-05-23 22:19:00
To NYB, Thank you for not automatically lashing out like so many people choose to do. In response to what you wrote, Dylan really does not dictate what we do. Things always seem to be exagerated on television. I not only quit my job to pursue this dream of Dylan's, but also to spend more time with him, as I was always working before. The second job my husband has is playing guitar in a band, which is what he loves to do. We also did not spend $10,000. My husband said the wrong thing, and I tried to change what he said, but it didn't matter. We may have spent $2000 tops on gas, food, pictures and hotels. Nothing out of the ordinary. These trips are great family time too. As long as Dylan loves what he is doing, and I can spend the time with him, what is the problem?
Posted by: robean2
Posted on: 2003-05-23 22:19:00
To NYB, Thank you for not automatically lashing out like so many people choose to do. In response to what you wrote, Dylan really does not dictate what we do. Things always seem to be exagerated on television. I not only quit my job to pursue this dream of Dylan's, but also to spend more time with him, as I was always working before. The second job my husband has is playing guitar in a band, which is what he loves to do. We also did not spend $10,000. My husband said the wrong thing, and I tried to change what he said, but it didn't matter. We may have spent $2000 tops on gas, food, pictures and hotels. Nothing out of the ordinary. These trips are great family time too. As long as Dylan loves what he is doing, and I can spend the time with him, what is the problem?
I disagree with Dr. Phil
Posted by: movieboof
Posted on: 2003-05-23 20:08:11
I thought Dr. Phil was too narrowminded on the show today, esp with the little boy Dylan and his mom.
She was obviously a good mom, who wanted what was best for him. He didnt' want to play soccer, he wanted to be in the movies, and in televison.
Why couldn't Dr. Phil find ONE child actor who hadn't gone astray, there are many,
Sally Field,
Shirley Temple
Margaret O'Brien
Jodi Foster
Johnny Whitaker
and on and on.
I say, go ahead and let him follow his dreams, and be supportive, it's no different than hauling him around to soccer, football,baseball, etc.
I agree, let him pursue theater locally, and also let him follow his dream.
He was so cute and his mom was NOT living through him, believe me, I have seen such moms, and she was not like that at all.
Posted by: movieboof
Posted on: 2003-05-23 20:08:11
I thought Dr. Phil was too narrowminded on the show today, esp with the little boy Dylan and his mom.
She was obviously a good mom, who wanted what was best for him. He didnt' want to play soccer, he wanted to be in the movies, and in televison.
Why couldn't Dr. Phil find ONE child actor who hadn't gone astray, there are many,
Sally Field,
Shirley Temple
Margaret O'Brien
Jodi Foster
Johnny Whitaker
and on and on.
I say, go ahead and let him follow his dreams, and be supportive, it's no different than hauling him around to soccer, football,baseball, etc.
I agree, let him pursue theater locally, and also let him follow his dream.
He was so cute and his mom was NOT living through him, believe me, I have seen such moms, and she was not like that at all.
Focus
Posted by: wilsomark
Posted on: 2003-05-23 22:32:03
Could it be that Dr. Phil was focusing on the issues surrounding the child-stars who failed and went astray because there are different dynamics in the psychological impact of those gone astray, than there are for those who succeed? It may have been a "narrow focus" rather than a "narrow mind" on the subject. Maybe Dr. Phil will have a show on the psychological effects of continued success on a child-star's life. I imagine there are huge differences between the two.
Posted by: wilsomark
Posted on: 2003-05-23 22:32:03
Could it be that Dr. Phil was focusing on the issues surrounding the child-stars who failed and went astray because there are different dynamics in the psychological impact of those gone astray, than there are for those who succeed? It may have been a "narrow focus" rather than a "narrow mind" on the subject. Maybe Dr. Phil will have a show on the psychological effects of continued success on a child-star's life. I imagine there are huge differences between the two.
WHO'S DREAM IS IT REALLY?
Posted by: terry0
Posted on: 2003-05-24 14:27:19
Hello, I do think you are a caring loving Mom Robin, but REALLY! Who's dream is it REALLY to be in front of those camera's?
At age 6 a child only knows what they are taught! Last year the "kid out of control" on oprah, this year Doctor Phil.... what next? Hey! How about "Child Idol"? Or mabey "Survivor"? Hey.... how about the "bachelor, 2020"? Good luck! :o)
Posted by: terry0
Posted on: 2003-05-24 14:27:19
Hello, I do think you are a caring loving Mom Robin, but REALLY! Who's dream is it REALLY to be in front of those camera's?
At age 6 a child only knows what they are taught! Last year the "kid out of control" on oprah, this year Doctor Phil.... what next? Hey! How about "Child Idol"? Or mabey "Survivor"? Hey.... how about the "bachelor, 2020"? Good luck! :o)
the ex-diva
Posted by: dd1234
Posted on: 2003-05-23 23:55:48
what about how the son feels? i can't imagine what it must be like to live with the feeling that you were a mistake. it seems that the teenager blames himself for his mom being a has-been. dr. phil said she should throw her hat in the ring again, but what about how the son feels right now. how about dealing with that issue?
Posted by: dd1234
Posted on: 2003-05-23 23:55:48
what about how the son feels? i can't imagine what it must be like to live with the feeling that you were a mistake. it seems that the teenager blames himself for his mom being a has-been. dr. phil said she should throw her hat in the ring again, but what about how the son feels right now. how about dealing with that issue?
Answer
Posted by: flgal32708
Posted on: 2003-05-24 10:45:49
Why won't you say if you were the one people are asking about that was on the Oprah show? I hope you let your son be a kid, to learn to work and play with others, to get the interaction with other children. That would be better then spending his weekends traveling.
Posted by: flgal32708
Posted on: 2003-05-24 10:45:49
Why won't you say if you were the one people are asking about that was on the Oprah show? I hope you let your son be a kid, to learn to work and play with others, to get the interaction with other children. That would be better then spending his weekends traveling.
16 posts from Robean2
Posted by: jackietay
Posted on: 2003-05-24 13:36:13
Robean2 I was curious to see if you used that byline to participate on this board before the May 23, 2003 show. The archive search for Robean2 showed 16 hits as of May 24th all for that one show. I am glad you tuned in to see what people are saying to you and about you. Stay tuned for other shows as other guests are interesting.
Posted by: jackietay
Posted on: 2003-05-24 13:36:13
Robean2 I was curious to see if you used that byline to participate on this board before the May 23, 2003 show. The archive search for Robean2 showed 16 hits as of May 24th all for that one show. I am glad you tuned in to see what people are saying to you and about you. Stay tuned for other shows as other guests are interesting.
robean2
Posted by: bammpamm
Posted on: 2003-05-24 15:55:12
I saw you on TV with Dr. Phil. You sure looked happy sitting there with a grin that wouldn't stop. You looked quite comfortable in that situation in front of the cameras. Are you sure you are not using your son to get what you want? Six-year-olds don't know what they want. I've spent every school day this past year with a six-year-old, and a very intelligent and outgoing one at that, who, by the way, is quite comfortable on stage also in his little school plays and playing the piano at recitals, but he doesn't know what he wants to do in life and neither do his friends that I have been around. I think you are hoping that he makes enough money so that he can pay for his own college education. You're supposed to pay for that. I think if you really think about this, you're doing this for you and robbing your son of his childhood. He should not be controlling your lives and if he is, it's because you let it happen.
Posted by: bammpamm
Posted on: 2003-05-24 15:55:12
I saw you on TV with Dr. Phil. You sure looked happy sitting there with a grin that wouldn't stop. You looked quite comfortable in that situation in front of the cameras. Are you sure you are not using your son to get what you want? Six-year-olds don't know what they want. I've spent every school day this past year with a six-year-old, and a very intelligent and outgoing one at that, who, by the way, is quite comfortable on stage also in his little school plays and playing the piano at recitals, but he doesn't know what he wants to do in life and neither do his friends that I have been around. I think you are hoping that he makes enough money so that he can pay for his own college education. You're supposed to pay for that. I think if you really think about this, you're doing this for you and robbing your son of his childhood. He should not be controlling your lives and if he is, it's because you let it happen.
if you really want Dylan to work...
Posted by: wilsonae
Posted on: 2003-05-28 06:54:30
you need to move to LA. I'm an actress who has worked with several successful child actors, including Hilary Duff, who is now a much bigger star than I will ever be. Anyway. It can be done. But you have to move to LA, live in a fleabag motel, or a trailer park, live apart from your husband and the rest of the family... and IF Dylan succeeded... then he would be pulled out of school, away from his friends, and feeling the pressure of being his family's primary wage-earner. It's a lot for these kids. But some of them do love it. I'm just writing you to say, if you are serious, you have to be in LA, or Orlando (where Nickelodeon shoots their shows). Or you let him be a kid, be in school plays, take local acting classes, be in local stock productions... which is the road I took, and I still became a professional, successful actress after i got my college degree. Just some food for thought.
Posted by: wilsonae
Posted on: 2003-05-28 06:54:30
you need to move to LA. I'm an actress who has worked with several successful child actors, including Hilary Duff, who is now a much bigger star than I will ever be. Anyway. It can be done. But you have to move to LA, live in a fleabag motel, or a trailer park, live apart from your husband and the rest of the family... and IF Dylan succeeded... then he would be pulled out of school, away from his friends, and feeling the pressure of being his family's primary wage-earner. It's a lot for these kids. But some of them do love it. I'm just writing you to say, if you are serious, you have to be in LA, or Orlando (where Nickelodeon shoots their shows). Or you let him be a kid, be in school plays, take local acting classes, be in local stock productions... which is the road I took, and I still became a professional, successful actress after i got my college degree. Just some food for thought.
Being in LA
Posted by: robean2
Posted on: 2003-05-28 11:00:47
Wilsonae, Thank you for your advice. I have thought alot about having to move. Even Dr Phil said that. It would be a huge deal to just drop everything and move, but we have learned that we can go at certain times like Pilot season, and see how he does. Then if he seems to be doing very well, and if it seems worth moving the whole family, then we would consider it. We have people that are willing to work with us in LA. Hopefully it will all work out. In the mean time he is gaining experience in Chicago and Nashville where I know first hand of success stories. I also want to do stuff locally if it comes available. Thank you for your comments. I would be interested in hearing more from you.
Posted by: robean2
Posted on: 2003-05-28 11:00:47
Wilsonae, Thank you for your advice. I have thought alot about having to move. Even Dr Phil said that. It would be a huge deal to just drop everything and move, but we have learned that we can go at certain times like Pilot season, and see how he does. Then if he seems to be doing very well, and if it seems worth moving the whole family, then we would consider it. We have people that are willing to work with us in LA. Hopefully it will all work out. In the mean time he is gaining experience in Chicago and Nashville where I know first hand of success stories. I also want to do stuff locally if it comes available. Thank you for your comments. I would be interested in hearing more from you.
Charles Napier
Posted by: jmethegirl
Posted on: 2003-05-23 09:04:17
I would just like to say that I have enjoyed watching many movies with Charles Napier. Although I might not have known who he was by name, he has become a familiar face. I hope that whatever he chooses to do in the future, he can be comforted to know that so many people are fans of his and really do appreciate all he has done. I would suggest to him also that if "Hollywood" isn't calling him right now that he look into local theatre groups to fulfill his desire to continue acting. I know of a lot of actors who do that and are very happy.
Posted by: jmethegirl
Posted on: 2003-05-23 09:04:17
I would just like to say that I have enjoyed watching many movies with Charles Napier. Although I might not have known who he was by name, he has become a familiar face. I hope that whatever he chooses to do in the future, he can be comforted to know that so many people are fans of his and really do appreciate all he has done. I would suggest to him also that if "Hollywood" isn't calling him right now that he look into local theatre groups to fulfill his desire to continue acting. I know of a lot of actors who do that and are very happy.
