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Posted by: conmar
Posted on: 2004-04-20 08:29:57
I have not seen the show yet but just reading the descriptions of these girls reminded me of a show that I saw on MTV that disturbed me. The premise of the show was in a local high school two "cliques", one freshman and one sophmore, chose a girl for the other group to make over in a contest. Once the girls were made over the whole school voted on the most improved look. I found it disturbing because I remembered being a teenage girl and I remember those insecurities. It also bothered me because each group wore clothes that were so expensive. A pair of jeans was between $80 and $100. How can we say we are sending the message to our children that you can be happy with yourselves when we have shows telling our girls that before they are even fully developed and have a sense of themselves, you need a makeover? What ever happened to being an individual? What about the girl that "lost" the contest? The clothes that were chosen were revealing and tight. I want my daughters to be happy with who they are on the inside as well as the outside. I will try to show them if you take pride in yourself , it does not matter if you wear expensive clothes and hang out with just the right "clique" in school. Unfortunately, these girls become worse when they are grown women. I will try not judge these "mean girls" yet. I will watch the show.
Posted by: conmar
Posted on: 2004-04-20 08:29:57
I have not seen the show yet but just reading the descriptions of these girls reminded me of a show that I saw on MTV that disturbed me. The premise of the show was in a local high school two "cliques", one freshman and one sophmore, chose a girl for the other group to make over in a contest. Once the girls were made over the whole school voted on the most improved look. I found it disturbing because I remembered being a teenage girl and I remember those insecurities. It also bothered me because each group wore clothes that were so expensive. A pair of jeans was between $80 and $100. How can we say we are sending the message to our children that you can be happy with yourselves when we have shows telling our girls that before they are even fully developed and have a sense of themselves, you need a makeover? What ever happened to being an individual? What about the girl that "lost" the contest? The clothes that were chosen were revealing and tight. I want my daughters to be happy with who they are on the inside as well as the outside. I will try to show them if you take pride in yourself , it does not matter if you wear expensive clothes and hang out with just the right "clique" in school. Unfortunately, these girls become worse when they are grown women. I will try not judge these "mean girls" yet. I will watch the show.
dont be quick to judge
Posted by: hmcfaye
Posted on: 2004-04-20 15:20:23
I think because the show was called mean girls people went into the show with a pre concieved idea that the girls were actually mean.I saw the show and being someone who has been accused of thinking im too good for the world i know how easy it is to be concieved as someone whos stuck up.Im a christian and i try hard to be nice and curteous and do what i can for people but since i have friends with "the clothing" and all those things people chose the stereotype over me.I think this is how the fab for were shown.It gave just a glimpse of this when it said one of them has 2 jobs to pay for her stuff, not many kids have a job perioud and i think that if people dug deeper they would see that the fab 4 probably arent that mean
Posted by: hmcfaye
Posted on: 2004-04-20 15:20:23
I think because the show was called mean girls people went into the show with a pre concieved idea that the girls were actually mean.I saw the show and being someone who has been accused of thinking im too good for the world i know how easy it is to be concieved as someone whos stuck up.Im a christian and i try hard to be nice and curteous and do what i can for people but since i have friends with "the clothing" and all those things people chose the stereotype over me.I think this is how the fab for were shown.It gave just a glimpse of this when it said one of them has 2 jobs to pay for her stuff, not many kids have a job perioud and i think that if people dug deeper they would see that the fab 4 probably arent that mean
Posted by: myfeetrbig
Posted on: 2004-04-20 17:12:05
I am a christian too and I think that we sometimes are percieved as stuck-up even though we try to think of other people. I am not one of the people who has friends with "the clothes" but I do have a lot of different groups of friends. People steryotype the people who can afford the nice clothes saying that they are mean. Some people just like to dress well, though. There are numerous people that go to my church that like to be well dressed and can afford the clothing to do so. Most of the time, high fashion is a personal choice and people do it because THEY want to, not because other people want them to. No one should be labeled as mean just because of the way that they dress.
proud heathen
Posted by: kaokirby
Posted on: 2004-04-20 20:13:15
What on earth does religion have to do with this? Whether you're christian or not you don't have the right to make other people feel bad. I'm wiccan and I think of myself as a very sincere person. I don't talk about people behind their backs and I wouldn't no matter what religion I am.
Actually, I'm an extremely reclusive person, so I have nobody to gossip TO, but that's the way I like it. I'm my own best friend.
In case you were wondering I'm 15.
Posted by: kaokirby
Posted on: 2004-04-20 20:13:15
What on earth does religion have to do with this? Whether you're christian or not you don't have the right to make other people feel bad. I'm wiccan and I think of myself as a very sincere person. I don't talk about people behind their backs and I wouldn't no matter what religion I am.
Actually, I'm an extremely reclusive person, so I have nobody to gossip TO, but that's the way I like it. I'm my own best friend.
In case you were wondering I'm 15.
Before you know it
Posted by: imamom16
Posted on: 2004-04-21 00:29:18
Before you know it, you'll be 25 and things will look a WHOLE lot different. I was the last one to kiss a boy, but the first one married! I have been happily married for 16 years with four kids--most of the "popular" girls have gotten divorced. Interesting what happens when you ALWAYS put yourself or appearances first.
Posted by: imamom16
Posted on: 2004-04-21 00:29:18
Before you know it, you'll be 25 and things will look a WHOLE lot different. I was the last one to kiss a boy, but the first one married! I have been happily married for 16 years with four kids--most of the "popular" girls have gotten divorced. Interesting what happens when you ALWAYS put yourself or appearances first.
So true
Posted by: giggles195
Posted on: 2004-04-21 16:27:00
Hi imamom16,
Before I go on BLESS YOU!! 4 KIDS awww. I agree with you so much I got married at 19 my husband was 20 we have been married 25 yrs, he was my 1st & only love we have 2 daughters 23 & 16. Like you the popular girls I went to school with are devorced, seperated. LOL Im saying basically what you have just said, but I had to tell you YOUR SO RIGHT!.
Posted by: giggles195
Posted on: 2004-04-21 16:27:00
Hi imamom16,
Before I go on BLESS YOU!! 4 KIDS awww. I agree with you so much I got married at 19 my husband was 20 we have been married 25 yrs, he was my 1st & only love we have 2 daughters 23 & 16. Like you the popular girls I went to school with are devorced, seperated. LOL Im saying basically what you have just said, but I had to tell you YOUR SO RIGHT!.
Have to agree
Posted by: petala
Posted on: 2004-04-24 18:51:41
I have a daughter that is 13 in Jr. High right now, and honestly, if you think these high school girls were mean, they have nothing on the girls in Jr. High.
My daughter is NOT one of the "in" crowd, I suppose it's because of the clothing we cannot afford for her. And you would not believe the things these girls say to her at school. My daughter is beautiful and bright. Yet she freaks out about her clothes because every single day one of these so called "popular" girls has to make fun of her.
I'm at a loss. I have tried talking to my daughter, telling her how when she is out of school being popular will not help those girls get a good job. There is no place on the job application for popularity points.
I plan to show my daughter your post, thank you again for backing up things I tell her all the time.
Posted by: petala
Posted on: 2004-04-24 18:51:41
I have a daughter that is 13 in Jr. High right now, and honestly, if you think these high school girls were mean, they have nothing on the girls in Jr. High.
My daughter is NOT one of the "in" crowd, I suppose it's because of the clothing we cannot afford for her. And you would not believe the things these girls say to her at school. My daughter is beautiful and bright. Yet she freaks out about her clothes because every single day one of these so called "popular" girls has to make fun of her.
I'm at a loss. I have tried talking to my daughter, telling her how when she is out of school being popular will not help those girls get a good job. There is no place on the job application for popularity points.
I plan to show my daughter your post, thank you again for backing up things I tell her all the time.
JR High was the worst!
Posted by: glider222
Posted on: 2004-04-26 12:50:07
Hi all,
As a mother of a twenty year old daughter it was not too long ago when she was in Jr. High. The girls can be very, very mean. My daughter never cared to dress up. She is still a jeans and t-shirt girl. What she used to do was take a plain white t-shirt and write "abercrombie & fitch" in black marker as a silent protest. She does have alot of confidence without being mean. The "mean girls" cast her out in sixth grade because she would not take part in the teasing and superficial girly stuff (daughters own words). I always instilled in her how un important these girls were in her life in the grand scheme of things. Today she says "mom you were so right"!
I only wish that my mom helped me with confidence. I know how hurtful it feels when your child is excluded or singled out. Just show them the higher road.
Kathy
Posted by: glider222
Posted on: 2004-04-26 12:50:07
Hi all,
As a mother of a twenty year old daughter it was not too long ago when she was in Jr. High. The girls can be very, very mean. My daughter never cared to dress up. She is still a jeans and t-shirt girl. What she used to do was take a plain white t-shirt and write "abercrombie & fitch" in black marker as a silent protest. She does have alot of confidence without being mean. The "mean girls" cast her out in sixth grade because she would not take part in the teasing and superficial girly stuff (daughters own words). I always instilled in her how un important these girls were in her life in the grand scheme of things. Today she says "mom you were so right"!
I only wish that my mom helped me with confidence. I know how hurtful it feels when your child is excluded or singled out. Just show them the higher road.
Kathy
I sorta agree!!
Posted by: cheer2004
Posted on: 2004-08-27 23:16:17
I agree with you Kathy. I am a 16 year old female....when I was in jr.high I thought...geezz to look cool I need to have cool clothes and all, but actually no one really cared what you wore. I was in the what you would call popular group, but we accepted everyone!! Not just pretty or cool kids. Because now that I am in High School our clique has broken into so many small groups. But we all are still friends. I think that if you are who you are then everyone should accept you NO MATTER WHAT!!! To all you girls out there this is coming from a teenager....Don't get down on yourself if people don't accept you because they are not worth your time!! And all you girls out there who think you are too cool for everyone....maybe look in the mirror and think that you could have alot more friends, if you would just accept them as who they are...no one should have to change to make friends!!! LIVE LIFE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW!!!!!
Ashley
Posted by: cheer2004
Posted on: 2004-08-27 23:16:17
I agree with you Kathy. I am a 16 year old female....when I was in jr.high I thought...geezz to look cool I need to have cool clothes and all, but actually no one really cared what you wore. I was in the what you would call popular group, but we accepted everyone!! Not just pretty or cool kids. Because now that I am in High School our clique has broken into so many small groups. But we all are still friends. I think that if you are who you are then everyone should accept you NO MATTER WHAT!!! To all you girls out there this is coming from a teenager....Don't get down on yourself if people don't accept you because they are not worth your time!! And all you girls out there who think you are too cool for everyone....maybe look in the mirror and think that you could have alot more friends, if you would just accept them as who they are...no one should have to change to make friends!!! LIVE LIFE LIKE THERE IS NO TOMORROW!!!!!
Ashley
I know
Posted by: kkat239
Posted on: 2004-04-26 18:57:06
I am a high schooler right now and the show was just a reflection on what really goes on, im from a very wealthy town wher kids drive their BMW's to school. My family doesent have much momey but the mocking and torture that is given out in my school is awful. Some people just are mean people who only care about themselves.
Posted by: kkat239
Posted on: 2004-04-26 18:57:06
I am a high schooler right now and the show was just a reflection on what really goes on, im from a very wealthy town wher kids drive their BMW's to school. My family doesent have much momey but the mocking and torture that is given out in my school is awful. Some people just are mean people who only care about themselves.
Posted by: waynegirl
Posted on: 2004-08-27 10:26:51
I have just graduated high school and I can tell you that girls dont have to be in the "in crowd" or have money to be mean. I have never really been in the "in crowd" and neither have my friends but I can tell you that some of the girls I do hang around with are the evilest people you will ever meet so I dont think its fair to assume that the "in crowd" and having money makes you mean.
totally agree
Posted by: jjagars
Posted on: 2004-08-27 17:36:32
I too went to a wealthy school but I had to work for my money. I hung out with all groups of people and some of the meanest were my best friends who got jealous whenever I would hang with the in-crowd. Most of the gossip and mean comments that went on in my school were made by the kids that were jealous of those who had more or were more popular.
Posted by: jjagars
Posted on: 2004-08-27 17:36:32
I too went to a wealthy school but I had to work for my money. I hung out with all groups of people and some of the meanest were my best friends who got jealous whenever I would hang with the in-crowd. Most of the gossip and mean comments that went on in my school were made by the kids that were jealous of those who had more or were more popular.
I agree
Posted by: keller87
Posted on: 2004-08-27 23:01:15
I don't think whether your "mean" has alot to do with if your "in" or "out". I was in the "in" group and high school was rough for me too. Heaven forbid a popular guy like you. You end up wearing a target for all the girls who are jealous to attack you. High school is hell on everybody, but a word of advice to girls of all groups....it's such a small part of your life, and popular or not, in four short years you'll have a whole new group of people in the real world who could careless if you were head cheerleader. I'm just glad I made sure to make enough great memories to remember high school fondly.
Posted by: keller87
Posted on: 2004-08-27 23:01:15
I don't think whether your "mean" has alot to do with if your "in" or "out". I was in the "in" group and high school was rough for me too. Heaven forbid a popular guy like you. You end up wearing a target for all the girls who are jealous to attack you. High school is hell on everybody, but a word of advice to girls of all groups....it's such a small part of your life, and popular or not, in four short years you'll have a whole new group of people in the real world who could careless if you were head cheerleader. I'm just glad I made sure to make enough great memories to remember high school fondly.
Posted by: crissies
Posted on: 2004-08-27 20:23:16
I just recently graduated 3 or 4 years ago and I enjoyed high school despite the cruelness and rumors. Going into high school I was not okay with myself but I became okay with myself and stronger as a result of these rumors. I realized that if I knew the truth then that was all that mattered. I also realized that those who were true friends knew me well enought to know the truth so who cares what people you dont know say.
I AGREE
Posted by: klctommyg
Posted on: 2004-08-28 11:17:19
know matter what there will be someone like the fab 4! its just life. no matter what anyone says they won't stop.i had the exact same problem at my old school in sixth grade!
Posted by: klctommyg
Posted on: 2004-08-28 11:17:19
know matter what there will be someone like the fab 4! its just life. no matter what anyone says they won't stop.i had the exact same problem at my old school in sixth grade!
Posted by: best_finds
Posted on: 2004-08-22 15:01:15
I have a 15 year old...If you would not mind I might be able to send you her cloths that she has grown out of.
here is my e-mail address
bestfinds@sympatico.ca
Mean Girls
Posted by: ternes4202
Posted on: 2004-08-23 10:07:59
I have a 12 year old girl who just entered 7th grade. Her biggest hurt is the girls who used to be her friend and now have turned on her. It seems to me the girls that have done this, are the ones who have a low self-esteem, are followers and are trying to fit in. We praise her for being a leader and not a follower and encourage her to try and make new friends. She also is intelligent enough to realize these old friends are users and only talk to her when they need something . It's very difficult as a parent to watch but I think it's neccessary to just give good advice and let them work it out!
Posted by: ternes4202
Posted on: 2004-08-23 10:07:59
I have a 12 year old girl who just entered 7th grade. Her biggest hurt is the girls who used to be her friend and now have turned on her. It seems to me the girls that have done this, are the ones who have a low self-esteem, are followers and are trying to fit in. We praise her for being a leader and not a follower and encourage her to try and make new friends. She also is intelligent enough to realize these old friends are users and only talk to her when they need something . It's very difficult as a parent to watch but I think it's neccessary to just give good advice and let them work it out!
Posted by: megz13
Posted on: 2004-08-27 16:50:36
i'm going into grade 8 this year.... its been really tough.... i'm not the most popular person... but i'm in the "in crowd" but there is one girl... who says anything she wants to anyone.... its been really hard because she likes to pick out my flaws more than others. People have even told me so. I've also been told that i'm prettier than her.... not to sound conceded... but i think i am... the girl came to my school at the beginning of grade 6 and thought she was the best since then.
Posted by: whitgirl6
Posted on: 2004-08-27 19:48:30
Hey Megz....
I'm going into 12th grade and let me say it's not always going to be this way! Concentrate on what makes you happy and stick with it... Love yourself first! Don't let anyone make you think badley of your self! Don't focus on whose prettier or anythign else based on looks... focus on your inner beauty... it'll get you farther in the long run!
- Don't look back
I agree
Posted by: swtkit13
Posted on: 2004-09-29 15:36:32
I agree with you, whitgirl6. People should try to look for the good in other people not by what they wear but how they act and that by trying to act like you are prettier and better than everyone else only makes you lower yourself to their level. Now it seems like it is all about looks and fashion but when you get into college none of that matters nearly as much as it does in middle school and highschool.
Posted by: swtkit13
Posted on: 2004-09-29 15:36:32
I agree with you, whitgirl6. People should try to look for the good in other people not by what they wear but how they act and that by trying to act like you are prettier and better than everyone else only makes you lower yourself to their level. Now it seems like it is all about looks and fashion but when you get into college none of that matters nearly as much as it does in middle school and highschool.
