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Posted by: reepslady
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:11:15
I have no idea if you read these boards or not, but I wanted to write to you anyways. I know you are having a hard time, and thirteen is a very tough age, but please keep in mind that you have a lot to gain from the experience of those around you...you have an opportunity to learn things that your parents are only learning now, decision making skills, and life skills. Make the most of this chance, and that you have so many people who love you (even though it may seem that they don't UNDERSTAND) because you have so much to lose if you turn your back on your family and, in the end, yourself. You have a potential that only you can reach for you. Many people on here have been hard on you (myself included), but it is because we do not want to see you make excuses for making bad choices, rather than thinking things through to make the right choices. It's hard sometimes for adults to remember what it was like to be your age, but those of us who do remember want to see you as happy as you can be, doing the things that we some of us wish we were doing at that age, instead of making choices that you can't take back. Good luck Katherine, I am rooting for your whole family.
Posted by: reepslady
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:11:15
I have no idea if you read these boards or not, but I wanted to write to you anyways. I know you are having a hard time, and thirteen is a very tough age, but please keep in mind that you have a lot to gain from the experience of those around you...you have an opportunity to learn things that your parents are only learning now, decision making skills, and life skills. Make the most of this chance, and that you have so many people who love you (even though it may seem that they don't UNDERSTAND) because you have so much to lose if you turn your back on your family and, in the end, yourself. You have a potential that only you can reach for you. Many people on here have been hard on you (myself included), but it is because we do not want to see you make excuses for making bad choices, rather than thinking things through to make the right choices. It's hard sometimes for adults to remember what it was like to be your age, but those of us who do remember want to see you as happy as you can be, doing the things that we some of us wish we were doing at that age, instead of making choices that you can't take back. Good luck Katherine, I am rooting for your whole family.
To Katherine
Posted by: beaverc
Posted on: 2004-02-19 11:08:01
Katherine, I also hope that you do read these message boards. You are a very smart, beautiful 13 year old that needs to live the life of a 13 year old. You have a need for relationships and at this age you need to be looking for those relationships with your family. Ask your Dad to take you to an event you both enjoy - just the two of you. Do the same with your mother. On your "dates", talk about general things in life - the event you are attending, the news, what you enjoy doing. Ask them questions. If you have to, just help them with chores around the house just so you are physically near them. As a 13 yr old, you will have relationships that come and go - at 13, you and your friends will be changing so much in the next 10 yrs. You can only count on friendship to last any length of time at your age. Let the dating go until you are older. I believe that you set goals for yourself - keep that up and don't get upset if you don't meet that goal. Review what got in the way and then go for that goal again or file it as a learning experience. Stay friends with your sister. There is nothing like a sister to help you get through life. Just accept that you two will not always agree. Discuss with her ways to keep from you two getting into agruements so you can have a better relationship. And on a final note, parents are people who are not neccessarily perfect. Sending you hugs...
Posted by: beaverc
Posted on: 2004-02-19 11:08:01
Katherine, I also hope that you do read these message boards. You are a very smart, beautiful 13 year old that needs to live the life of a 13 year old. You have a need for relationships and at this age you need to be looking for those relationships with your family. Ask your Dad to take you to an event you both enjoy - just the two of you. Do the same with your mother. On your "dates", talk about general things in life - the event you are attending, the news, what you enjoy doing. Ask them questions. If you have to, just help them with chores around the house just so you are physically near them. As a 13 yr old, you will have relationships that come and go - at 13, you and your friends will be changing so much in the next 10 yrs. You can only count on friendship to last any length of time at your age. Let the dating go until you are older. I believe that you set goals for yourself - keep that up and don't get upset if you don't meet that goal. Review what got in the way and then go for that goal again or file it as a learning experience. Stay friends with your sister. There is nothing like a sister to help you get through life. Just accept that you two will not always agree. Discuss with her ways to keep from you two getting into agruements so you can have a better relationship. And on a final note, parents are people who are not neccessarily perfect. Sending you hugs...
Hugs for Katherine
Posted by: kris59
Posted on: 2004-02-20 00:49:32
I too, was wondering, as I watched the show, if Katherine reads these boards. I just wanted to tell you Katherine that I'm rooting for you. I just wanted to hug you today as I watched the show. I have compassion for the struggles you are facing and the difficulty of being 13. Hang in there, girl. You WILL succeed!
Posted by: kris59
Posted on: 2004-02-20 00:49:32
I too, was wondering, as I watched the show, if Katherine reads these boards. I just wanted to tell you Katherine that I'm rooting for you. I just wanted to hug you today as I watched the show. I have compassion for the struggles you are facing and the difficulty of being 13. Hang in there, girl. You WILL succeed!
Katherine
Posted by: weluvdrphi
Posted on: 2004-02-21 11:01:56
You're a beautiful sweet girl! Hang in there. You have a lot going for you!
Posted by: weluvdrphi
Posted on: 2004-02-21 11:01:56
You're a beautiful sweet girl! Hang in there. You have a lot going for you!
maturity and pride
Posted by: rkyracer
Posted on: 2004-02-22 00:24:02
Katherine, we have two sons and two daughters. Our daughters were not allowed to even date until they were 16 and that was a group date involving the movies or a group party. The parties we drove the kids to, spoke to the parents about activities and sometimes came early to pick them up. They never knew when we would be there. They thought it was not fair. We didn't feel that the young ladies had the maturity to stand up for themselves and demand respect for themselves at such a young age. But..now they have daughters and are following the same rules. They are respectful young ladies and their father and I use the term ladies proudly. Being a parent is not a popularity contest it is a job. Be strong and parent yourself and set guidelines and stick to them. You are strong and will win. "Go Girl"
Posted by: rkyracer
Posted on: 2004-02-22 00:24:02
Katherine, we have two sons and two daughters. Our daughters were not allowed to even date until they were 16 and that was a group date involving the movies or a group party. The parties we drove the kids to, spoke to the parents about activities and sometimes came early to pick them up. They never knew when we would be there. They thought it was not fair. We didn't feel that the young ladies had the maturity to stand up for themselves and demand respect for themselves at such a young age. But..now they have daughters and are following the same rules. They are respectful young ladies and their father and I use the term ladies proudly. Being a parent is not a popularity contest it is a job. Be strong and parent yourself and set guidelines and stick to them. You are strong and will win. "Go Girl"
The Gifted
Posted by: shhaas
Posted on: 2004-02-22 18:12:01
As I am a faithful Dr. Phil TV watcher, I want to comment on his comment concerning how intelligent Katherine is -
As a mother of three (3) gifted children, (i.e., 142) I know the gifted have emotional traumas that go unnoticed or "unbelieved" by others.
Being gifted is often not happy; instead, painful in many ways. And the "average" person hasn't got a clue about what it means to be gifted.
I'm enormously grateful Dr. Phil is there for Katherine. With his guidance, she can come out of this "mess" equipped with a higher knowledge and understanding of how to cope and/or deal with life, and still have her already-intelligent mind. It's that kind of understanding that usually escapes most gifted kids - until they're 45 or 50 years old.
Listen to Dr. Phil, Katherine, even when it hurts. You can come out on top; it's really your choice.
sh
Posted by: shhaas
Posted on: 2004-02-22 18:12:01
As I am a faithful Dr. Phil TV watcher, I want to comment on his comment concerning how intelligent Katherine is -
As a mother of three (3) gifted children, (i.e., 142) I know the gifted have emotional traumas that go unnoticed or "unbelieved" by others.
Being gifted is often not happy; instead, painful in many ways. And the "average" person hasn't got a clue about what it means to be gifted.
I'm enormously grateful Dr. Phil is there for Katherine. With his guidance, she can come out of this "mess" equipped with a higher knowledge and understanding of how to cope and/or deal with life, and still have her already-intelligent mind. It's that kind of understanding that usually escapes most gifted kids - until they're 45 or 50 years old.
Listen to Dr. Phil, Katherine, even when it hurts. You can come out on top; it's really your choice.
sh
PRAYERS FOR KATHERINE
Posted by: afit66
Posted on: 2004-02-21 21:57:48
Katherine, my prayers are with you. You're beautiful and smart. Keep your chin up! Literally hundreds of people are rooting for you!
Posted by: afit66
Posted on: 2004-02-21 21:57:48
Katherine, my prayers are with you. You're beautiful and smart. Keep your chin up! Literally hundreds of people are rooting for you!
Keeping you in my prayers
Posted by: lampdog
Posted on: 2004-02-25 22:45:23
Katherine, I wanted you to know that I am praying for you. As I read some of the messages I can see I am not the only one. Teenage years are difficult. I can still remember. At times I didn't think my parents understood me and I came from a stable home. Your parents do care about you. God cares about you also. He is a great person to tell how you really feel. You have been blessed to have Dr. Phil as a friend. You may not like what he tells you at times but listen. He can help you make good choices. Katherine it is about choices. They are some that you have to make. Don't worry about boys at this time. You have plenty of time and the world is not running out of guys. I remember breakups and I thought I couldn't hurt that bad as when a guy broke up with me. But I lived through it. Their will always be breakup when you dating and some pain along the way. I just wanted you to know that others care about you. Stay out of trouble, that not the path you want to take.
Posted by: lampdog
Posted on: 2004-02-25 22:45:23
Katherine, I wanted you to know that I am praying for you. As I read some of the messages I can see I am not the only one. Teenage years are difficult. I can still remember. At times I didn't think my parents understood me and I came from a stable home. Your parents do care about you. God cares about you also. He is a great person to tell how you really feel. You have been blessed to have Dr. Phil as a friend. You may not like what he tells you at times but listen. He can help you make good choices. Katherine it is about choices. They are some that you have to make. Don't worry about boys at this time. You have plenty of time and the world is not running out of guys. I remember breakups and I thought I couldn't hurt that bad as when a guy broke up with me. But I lived through it. Their will always be breakup when you dating and some pain along the way. I just wanted you to know that others care about you. Stay out of trouble, that not the path you want to take.
Katherine/DrPhil
Posted by: bingohall
Posted on: 2004-02-19 16:14:46
When I looked at the show today, this is a little girl that is in need of so much love from both her parents...She needs hugs and more hugs from her MOm, when she was talking with you son Dr. Phil, she was not paying attention at all, all I COULD see her is looking at your son, and saying to herself, my God he his gorgeous....I know she had no idea what he was talking to her about.a typical young 13yrs, falling in love with any guy that pays attention to her, as she is diffinetety not getting it at home...Because of the family so distant and the turmoil that has been going on, maybe placing her into a foster home with strick rules for a couple of months would not be a bad idea..Good luck Katherine...I wish ,much hugs ..
stella
Posted by: bingohall
Posted on: 2004-02-19 16:14:46
When I looked at the show today, this is a little girl that is in need of so much love from both her parents...She needs hugs and more hugs from her MOm, when she was talking with you son Dr. Phil, she was not paying attention at all, all I COULD see her is looking at your son, and saying to herself, my God he his gorgeous....I know she had no idea what he was talking to her about.a typical young 13yrs, falling in love with any guy that pays attention to her, as she is diffinetety not getting it at home...Because of the family so distant and the turmoil that has been going on, maybe placing her into a foster home with strick rules for a couple of months would not be a bad idea..Good luck Katherine...I wish ,much hugs ..
stella
WAKE UP PARENTS!!!
Posted by: cindykayes
Posted on: 2004-02-19 16:51:28
I am proud of Dr.Phil today, he has pointed out some great points to the family and Katherine. She is wanting LOVE from her parents and family, still I think the parents are not understanding their children they better WAKE UP! They need to be more demanding of them and give them rules and make the kids stick to them. Spank them, they think their the adult or so it seems that way to me, they are disrespectful and rude. I believe there is hope, I REALLY DO, Katherine is so SMART and wants to do good. For the parents please start showing one another you might care a little about one another, be kind and respect each other. HUGS,KISSES,AND LOVE EACH OTHER PLEASE YOUR A FAMILY, not roomates or co-workers. Sorry to be so blunt but this is really what I think of the family....YOU JUST DONT TELL ADULTS dont talk to me, and them walk away and shut up.She wins that way parents...LOVE IS WHAT THIS FAMILY NEEDS AND GOD.
Posted by: cindykayes
Posted on: 2004-02-19 16:51:28
I am proud of Dr.Phil today, he has pointed out some great points to the family and Katherine. She is wanting LOVE from her parents and family, still I think the parents are not understanding their children they better WAKE UP! They need to be more demanding of them and give them rules and make the kids stick to them. Spank them, they think their the adult or so it seems that way to me, they are disrespectful and rude. I believe there is hope, I REALLY DO, Katherine is so SMART and wants to do good. For the parents please start showing one another you might care a little about one another, be kind and respect each other. HUGS,KISSES,AND LOVE EACH OTHER PLEASE YOUR A FAMILY, not roomates or co-workers. Sorry to be so blunt but this is really what I think of the family....YOU JUST DONT TELL ADULTS dont talk to me, and them walk away and shut up.She wins that way parents...LOVE IS WHAT THIS FAMILY NEEDS AND GOD.
Wake up Parents
Posted by: redbabee11
Posted on: 2004-02-19 17:02:10
I agree with everything Cindy says; These parents need to take their head out of the sand, stop crying about their relationship and deal sith their children. Erin is so cool and aloof to Katherine and right now she needs to be talked with, understanding, hugs and kisses and being made to feel she is important to her parents. These parents need to take control and set up some type of structure. They haven't set a good example but it is not too late to change things. Katherine needs some rules to follow. A 13 year old should in no way be talking to an adult as this girl does. Neither should boys be the focus of her attention. Get involved parents; this child is in need of your help, protection and guidance.
Posted by: redbabee11
Posted on: 2004-02-19 17:02:10
I agree with everything Cindy says; These parents need to take their head out of the sand, stop crying about their relationship and deal sith their children. Erin is so cool and aloof to Katherine and right now she needs to be talked with, understanding, hugs and kisses and being made to feel she is important to her parents. These parents need to take control and set up some type of structure. They haven't set a good example but it is not too late to change things. Katherine needs some rules to follow. A 13 year old should in no way be talking to an adult as this girl does. Neither should boys be the focus of her attention. Get involved parents; this child is in need of your help, protection and guidance.
The parents are the ones
Posted by: mjs1986
Posted on: 2004-02-19 17:10:26
That need to wake up. I mean it seems to me that they are not even upset and to Katherine that must seem that they don't care. I understand the grades part I went through that myself. My parents were not paying me enough attention and for me it started in middle school. But the boy thing is really surprising at her age but I think that her parents are just scared or are really dumb like Dr.Phil says because they don't really see it. Especially Marty,he just sits there. It is so frustrating to me that he is not saying anything and that it seems he is no protection for his daughters. It will be a miracle if these girls turn out to be anything other than battered wives or hookers or drug addicts
Posted by: mjs1986
Posted on: 2004-02-19 17:10:26
That need to wake up. I mean it seems to me that they are not even upset and to Katherine that must seem that they don't care. I understand the grades part I went through that myself. My parents were not paying me enough attention and for me it started in middle school. But the boy thing is really surprising at her age but I think that her parents are just scared or are really dumb like Dr.Phil says because they don't really see it. Especially Marty,he just sits there. It is so frustrating to me that he is not saying anything and that it seems he is no protection for his daughters. It will be a miracle if these girls turn out to be anything other than battered wives or hookers or drug addicts
Posted by: lolobro
Posted on: 2004-02-19 17:42:16
I can feel for the parents b/c I have a daughter who is just like catherine and a husband who is always working and never home. Over time the hurt is so painful that you just look for something in the day to relieve it and you wind up neglecting the child who "seems" to be causing the pain. How do you get out of this spiral downward without help????????? The pain is so bad you want to die just to escape it.
Did you even watch the show???
Posted by: cherann65
Posted on: 2004-02-21 18:38:11
First off yes i also have a husband who works alot and a daughter that is having alot of trouble. But how selfish can you get!!Why do YOU get to bury your head in the sand while your daughter is screaming (in her own way) for help and you are too messed up to get your head out of your butt and help her. You are all she has. Who else is going to help her? Why am I such an expert you ask because you are my mother 25 yrs ago hiding in her bed while i was going through living hell. LIFE IS HARD GET OVER IT AND HELP HER!!!
Posted by: cherann65
Posted on: 2004-02-21 18:38:11
First off yes i also have a husband who works alot and a daughter that is having alot of trouble. But how selfish can you get!!Why do YOU get to bury your head in the sand while your daughter is screaming (in her own way) for help and you are too messed up to get your head out of your butt and help her. You are all she has. Who else is going to help her? Why am I such an expert you ask because you are my mother 25 yrs ago hiding in her bed while i was going through living hell. LIFE IS HARD GET OVER IT AND HELP HER!!!
Strong Words !!
Posted by: dupteach1
Posted on: 2004-02-23 19:58:30
I totally agree that parents must be the leaders for children. I agree with your comment about parents getting their heads screwed on straight to help their children and parents should not bury themselves away from the real world in which their children are struggling through. I want to say that it sounds as though you have had some tough times in your youth. I hope that you have had the chance to address these feelings.
I too had a difficult time in my pre-teen and teenage years. I had two older brothers that caused many problems for my parents from drug use to skipping school. I,being the only girl and youngest in the family ,was always seen as the GOOD kid that did no wrong. I became lost in a world of trying to be the perfect daughter so that my parents could have some peace. This struggle for perfection soon lead me to follow in my brothers' footsteps. I was exposed to drugs and sexual conduct at a very young age. I became involved in a relationship that was abusive in all respects of the word. I became stuck in this relationship for over 4 years. I finally ended the ordeal with fear for my life and that of my family. Through out this whole experience I was punished ONE time by my parents. This was the best time of my life because I was being protected by being prohibited to see this young man. Did I let my parents know that I was happy to be kept away from him? Of course not, I was a rebellous teenager. What does all of this mean? I know that my parents, this boy's parents, myself and this boy are all equally to blame for the years of HELL that I lived through. I know that my parents should have protected me from such experiences. I know that my parents were so involved in my brothers' issues that they could not see mine and when they did notice suspicous things going on with me, I would lie to cover up what was really going on and they believed anything that came out of my mouth. Parents are human too and I do not hold my parents to blame for the past. They were doing the best that they could at the time. I pray that I can handle my two boys a little better. I DO NOT sit in a pity party for myself because of what I went through, instead I use these experiences to help others and thrive to be successful in all that I do.
To the parents in Dr. Phil's family: These girls are beautiful young ladies. They will screw up just as you did when you were their age. We tend to forget what we did as teenagers when
Posted by: dupteach1
Posted on: 2004-02-23 19:58:30
I totally agree that parents must be the leaders for children. I agree with your comment about parents getting their heads screwed on straight to help their children and parents should not bury themselves away from the real world in which their children are struggling through. I want to say that it sounds as though you have had some tough times in your youth. I hope that you have had the chance to address these feelings.
I too had a difficult time in my pre-teen and teenage years. I had two older brothers that caused many problems for my parents from drug use to skipping school. I,being the only girl and youngest in the family ,was always seen as the GOOD kid that did no wrong. I became lost in a world of trying to be the perfect daughter so that my parents could have some peace. This struggle for perfection soon lead me to follow in my brothers' footsteps. I was exposed to drugs and sexual conduct at a very young age. I became involved in a relationship that was abusive in all respects of the word. I became stuck in this relationship for over 4 years. I finally ended the ordeal with fear for my life and that of my family. Through out this whole experience I was punished ONE time by my parents. This was the best time of my life because I was being protected by being prohibited to see this young man. Did I let my parents know that I was happy to be kept away from him? Of course not, I was a rebellous teenager. What does all of this mean? I know that my parents, this boy's parents, myself and this boy are all equally to blame for the years of HELL that I lived through. I know that my parents should have protected me from such experiences. I know that my parents were so involved in my brothers' issues that they could not see mine and when they did notice suspicous things going on with me, I would lie to cover up what was really going on and they believed anything that came out of my mouth. Parents are human too and I do not hold my parents to blame for the past. They were doing the best that they could at the time. I pray that I can handle my two boys a little better. I DO NOT sit in a pity party for myself because of what I went through, instead I use these experiences to help others and thrive to be successful in all that I do.
To the parents in Dr. Phil's family: These girls are beautiful young ladies. They will screw up just as you did when you were their age. We tend to forget what we did as teenagers when
Parents believe in yourself!
Posted by: rover44
Posted on: 2004-02-21 13:29:24
I would like Marty and Erin to believe in themselves that they are capable of parenting.Teenagers need guidance more than anything else and when they flub up don't lecture them to death.Life is a struggle
face it.What Katherine's done or why she has done it,I'd wipe the slate clean.I remember a principal's words- DON'T do IT AGAIN!As far as alexis, I agree with DR.Phil in putting her on birthcontrol because with my experience with teenagers,
they are good liars.
Posted by: rover44
Posted on: 2004-02-21 13:29:24
I would like Marty and Erin to believe in themselves that they are capable of parenting.Teenagers need guidance more than anything else and when they flub up don't lecture them to death.Life is a struggle
face it.What Katherine's done or why she has done it,I'd wipe the slate clean.I remember a principal's words- DON'T do IT AGAIN!As far as alexis, I agree with DR.Phil in putting her on birthcontrol because with my experience with teenagers,
they are good liars.
Marty
Posted by: conrben
Posted on: 2004-02-21 13:33:40
Marty makes me so mad. You're right. He just sits there and makes no comment or just agrees with Erin, which is just as bad. DUH!!! He still doesn't get it and he never will. Erin does need to dump him and then maybe she would get on the ball but it's hard to do when one person isn't connected.
Posted by: conrben
Posted on: 2004-02-21 13:33:40
Marty makes me so mad. You're right. He just sits there and makes no comment or just agrees with Erin, which is just as bad. DUH!!! He still doesn't get it and he never will. Erin does need to dump him and then maybe she would get on the ball but it's hard to do when one person isn't connected.
Marty
Posted by: desertgyrl
Posted on: 2004-02-21 14:53:41
Marty doesn't know how to be a father. People keep forgetting this point. Plus, how can he not sit there like a bump on a log, when neither Dr. Phil nor Erin saw fit to show him the letters Katherine had written?? NOT fair! As her father, Marty should've been included in this. But Erin didn't think it necessary. Bad call Erin! Because of this fact, SHE was responsible for Marty looking like a deer in the headlights.
Posted by: desertgyrl
Posted on: 2004-02-21 14:53:41
Marty doesn't know how to be a father. People keep forgetting this point. Plus, how can he not sit there like a bump on a log, when neither Dr. Phil nor Erin saw fit to show him the letters Katherine had written?? NOT fair! As her father, Marty should've been included in this. But Erin didn't think it necessary. Bad call Erin! Because of this fact, SHE was responsible for Marty looking like a deer in the headlights.
desertgyrl
Posted by: tiggersipe
Posted on: 2004-02-23 09:00:57
I agree with you. Marty was at least the person Katherine trusted to go have a talk with. He was there for her more than Erin. The other thing everyone needs to do is realize that building trust with your child takes time. They have not been there for her, so now that they want to be, she isn't sure she should. They have made great process. I believe that Katherine wanted to make sis look bad and made the comments she did at the beginning for that reason. She wanted attention for being the good girl. Instead, because of the situation she was placed aside. She's now acting the way she is, because being the good girl didn't work. She wasn't patient enough to allow her parents to fix themselves so they could pay attention to her the way they should. Are they perfect no, are they there yet no, are they still moving forward YES!!! Let's give them credit and pray for Katherine!
Posted by: tiggersipe
Posted on: 2004-02-23 09:00:57
I agree with you. Marty was at least the person Katherine trusted to go have a talk with. He was there for her more than Erin. The other thing everyone needs to do is realize that building trust with your child takes time. They have not been there for her, so now that they want to be, she isn't sure she should. They have made great process. I believe that Katherine wanted to make sis look bad and made the comments she did at the beginning for that reason. She wanted attention for being the good girl. Instead, because of the situation she was placed aside. She's now acting the way she is, because being the good girl didn't work. She wasn't patient enough to allow her parents to fix themselves so they could pay attention to her the way they should. Are they perfect no, are they there yet no, are they still moving forward YES!!! Let's give them credit and pray for Katherine!
Get Off Marty's Back
Posted by: parentof3
Posted on: 2004-02-23 15:20:37
I think everyone needs to lighten up on Marty. I totally disagree with what he has done in the past, however noone seems to be lighting up on him at all. If Erin is going to punish him for the rest of their marriage she needs to get out now. She sits there and holds his hand and tries to show emotion towards him, however she is the first one to attack him for the past. I think she has had every right in the past to punish him, however she needs to look towards the future if she is going to stick with this marriage. I think he has tried to be more "clued" in especially with Katherine and I am tired of hearing it is his responsibility because he is a "man".
Posted by: parentof3
Posted on: 2004-02-23 15:20:37
I think everyone needs to lighten up on Marty. I totally disagree with what he has done in the past, however noone seems to be lighting up on him at all. If Erin is going to punish him for the rest of their marriage she needs to get out now. She sits there and holds his hand and tries to show emotion towards him, however she is the first one to attack him for the past. I think she has had every right in the past to punish him, however she needs to look towards the future if she is going to stick with this marriage. I think he has tried to be more "clued" in especially with Katherine and I am tired of hearing it is his responsibility because he is a "man".
