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Posted by: xtcgirl
Posted on: 2004-02-18 08:17:04
I know exactly what brandon is going thru. Ive been in and out of rehab centers. Ive been using weed, xtc (hense the name), shrooms, acid, crystal meth plus some pain killers every one and then. I havent used acid in a while tho. Its really hard to understand drug addiction unless u been there. ive been using Ecstasy for 4 and a half yrs now and even tho its not phsyically addictive its psychologically addictive. I really hope brandon can get some help and stay in his rehab facility cuz he is a great kid (kinda cute too). Please dr phil help him out... I have been on my death bed twice from an OD and I really nuttin like that happends to him Please dr phil help him!! btw Im 15 y/o peace out!
Posted by: xtcgirl
Posted on: 2004-02-18 08:17:04
I know exactly what brandon is going thru. Ive been in and out of rehab centers. Ive been using weed, xtc (hense the name), shrooms, acid, crystal meth plus some pain killers every one and then. I havent used acid in a while tho. Its really hard to understand drug addiction unless u been there. ive been using Ecstasy for 4 and a half yrs now and even tho its not phsyically addictive its psychologically addictive. I really hope brandon can get some help and stay in his rehab facility cuz he is a great kid (kinda cute too). Please dr phil help him out... I have been on my death bed twice from an OD and I really nuttin like that happends to him Please dr phil help him!! btw Im 15 y/o peace out!
Please don't give up, XTCgirl!
Posted by: wolfbitch
Posted on: 2004-02-18 15:55:01
XTC Girl, if you are not clean now, I hope that you will get some more help because we all need you! Please, please do not give up! I know that I almost gave up on myself and many people dismissed me as being a hopeless case. For instance, I actually used dope in a rehab -- talk about being powerless! I felt like I could have no life without drugs. A day without drugs was like a day without sunshine. Or air. Like a day without air. I've also overdosed before and been through the ER's and drank the charcoal. I never realized that my life was valuable. I never realized how much my parents would be hurt if I died. I felt like I could never have any peace without drugs but I realized that feeling was a lie. Reading your post made me want to cry because I have been there and I have been on many of the same drugs. Please, please don't give up!
Posted by: wolfbitch
Posted on: 2004-02-18 15:55:01
XTC Girl, if you are not clean now, I hope that you will get some more help because we all need you! Please, please do not give up! I know that I almost gave up on myself and many people dismissed me as being a hopeless case. For instance, I actually used dope in a rehab -- talk about being powerless! I felt like I could have no life without drugs. A day without drugs was like a day without sunshine. Or air. Like a day without air. I've also overdosed before and been through the ER's and drank the charcoal. I never realized that my life was valuable. I never realized how much my parents would be hurt if I died. I felt like I could never have any peace without drugs but I realized that feeling was a lie. Reading your post made me want to cry because I have been there and I have been on many of the same drugs. Please, please don't give up!
THANK YOU...
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:25:44
Thank you God/Higher power For these women you have kept on this earth for all that they can teach to others in need of understanding and support.
To XTC Girl and Wolfbitch, Both of you are very important people/Humans; you are here for a reason, it may be in a word, phrase or even a smile that might be the beacon needed to help someone in need. Please keep shining and take one step at at time.
Thank you Brandon for your hard work; it really shows me that the work I do is worth the effort. I work in a women's addiction treatment centre as a resident counselor; there are times that I am not certain that I have helped to make a difference.
It can be so difficult to see some of the women fight so hard not to recover from their addictions; they leave treatment only to return days, weeks and months later. I pray that this is the their time to 'get it'. That they learn just how worth while they are. All I can say is that it is difficult to watch those that do not get it yet; I just keep praying for them.
To all that have been in treatment, you are the cocoon waiting to emerge with renewed life has a beautiful butterfly; take care and time to allow your wings to strengthen and spread them wide to guide you well.
snelsand (Susan Alberta, Canada)
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:25:44
Thank you God/Higher power For these women you have kept on this earth for all that they can teach to others in need of understanding and support.
To XTC Girl and Wolfbitch, Both of you are very important people/Humans; you are here for a reason, it may be in a word, phrase or even a smile that might be the beacon needed to help someone in need. Please keep shining and take one step at at time.
Thank you Brandon for your hard work; it really shows me that the work I do is worth the effort. I work in a women's addiction treatment centre as a resident counselor; there are times that I am not certain that I have helped to make a difference.
It can be so difficult to see some of the women fight so hard not to recover from their addictions; they leave treatment only to return days, weeks and months later. I pray that this is the their time to 'get it'. That they learn just how worth while they are. All I can say is that it is difficult to watch those that do not get it yet; I just keep praying for them.
To all that have been in treatment, you are the cocoon waiting to emerge with renewed life has a beautiful butterfly; take care and time to allow your wings to strengthen and spread them wide to guide you well.
snelsand (Susan Alberta, Canada)
snelsand
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:37:45
i need help understanding drug addiction .my daughter is 31 years old and is having a difficult time with her addiction,she is going to a methadone clinic what is your take and clinics like these she still has used since starting this place and her doctor also prescribes her plain pills and xanax and soma a mucle relaxer. she is deep trouble and i know it what should i do???i am very concerned about her. we always end up in a conflict and a shouting match,whenever i confront her. rmccoury54
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:37:45
i need help understanding drug addiction .my daughter is 31 years old and is having a difficult time with her addiction,she is going to a methadone clinic what is your take and clinics like these she still has used since starting this place and her doctor also prescribes her plain pills and xanax and soma a mucle relaxer. she is deep trouble and i know it what should i do???i am very concerned about her. we always end up in a conflict and a shouting match,whenever i confront her. rmccoury54
rmccoury54
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 10:58:08
Here is my stint for this situation. You need to attend an al-non, learn what you need to do for yourself while having clear boundaries for your daughter. This might not go over very well...but warn the doctor/s that she may double doctoring for her fix. There may be some way of stopping this legal fix for her through the pharmacy and other medical records. But only warn the doctor/s. You however must not enable your daughter; as hard as that is to do and say; do not enable her. There are several books websites that will help out with this.
Co-depenant No more, Beyond co-dependency and Guide to the co-dependant 12 step, all are by the author Melody Beattie. They are interesting as well as easy to read and there are exercises at the end of the chapters. Also Dr. Phil's life strategies and self matters will guide you in the areas of healthy boundaries and situations that are challenging when living with an addict. No the last two books do not pertain to addictions per-say but life strategies which can prove bennificial to surviving the experience. Methadone clinics; there is lots of research out there both for and against. I only know that through the treatment program I work with; it can be helpful in the recovery process. But it is definitely monitored on a daily basis even twice a day depending on the client. I apologise if I have not out right given you the elixir which you are seeking. But I can only give ideas or resouces as suggestions. bless you
snelsand (S
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 10:58:08
Here is my stint for this situation. You need to attend an al-non, learn what you need to do for yourself while having clear boundaries for your daughter. This might not go over very well...but warn the doctor/s that she may double doctoring for her fix. There may be some way of stopping this legal fix for her through the pharmacy and other medical records. But only warn the doctor/s. You however must not enable your daughter; as hard as that is to do and say; do not enable her. There are several books websites that will help out with this.
Co-depenant No more, Beyond co-dependency and Guide to the co-dependant 12 step, all are by the author Melody Beattie. They are interesting as well as easy to read and there are exercises at the end of the chapters. Also Dr. Phil's life strategies and self matters will guide you in the areas of healthy boundaries and situations that are challenging when living with an addict. No the last two books do not pertain to addictions per-say but life strategies which can prove bennificial to surviving the experience. Methadone clinics; there is lots of research out there both for and against. I only know that through the treatment program I work with; it can be helpful in the recovery process. But it is definitely monitored on a daily basis even twice a day depending on the client. I apologise if I have not out right given you the elixir which you are seeking. But I can only give ideas or resouces as suggestions. bless you
snelsand (S
snelsand
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 13:07:55
thank you for responding so quickly,i have dr.phil's relationship rescue book i have the wrong book for my situation. i used to have melody beaties book on co depend no more but lost it or lended it to someone else. i have thought about seeking help for me also i don't think i will survive this if i don't. we had a family talk today with our daughter and layed out some issues,talked them through and i think we have an understanding. i just simply told her we need to come to some kind of solution we both can live with. so we r working on this right now. i hope to here from you again you have helped me already. and i thank you for that.there is alot you don't know about the problem it would take forever to spell it all out. but the main problem is living with an addict!!!!!sincerly yours rmccoury54
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 13:07:55
thank you for responding so quickly,i have dr.phil's relationship rescue book i have the wrong book for my situation. i used to have melody beaties book on co depend no more but lost it or lended it to someone else. i have thought about seeking help for me also i don't think i will survive this if i don't. we had a family talk today with our daughter and layed out some issues,talked them through and i think we have an understanding. i just simply told her we need to come to some kind of solution we both can live with. so we r working on this right now. i hope to here from you again you have helped me already. and i thank you for that.there is alot you don't know about the problem it would take forever to spell it all out. but the main problem is living with an addict!!!!!sincerly yours rmccoury54
You have already done good work..
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 14:24:57
rmccoury54... Just stick to your ground and if necessary, your daughter may need to be declared a threat to herself or others. Meaning that it might be possible; for you,to have her placed in an inpatient care facility for treatment. I know this sounds SSSSSSSOOOOOOO hard; But it may be necessary for you safety and sanity. She will be angry and hurt, may even states she hates you; please, please realize that this is th drugs/alcohol talking not your daughter. Stay strong and bite down hard on the next decisions you will make. It is for her good and yours. Bless you
snelsand (Susan Alberta, Canada)
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 14:24:57
rmccoury54... Just stick to your ground and if necessary, your daughter may need to be declared a threat to herself or others. Meaning that it might be possible; for you,to have her placed in an inpatient care facility for treatment. I know this sounds SSSSSSSOOOOOOO hard; But it may be necessary for you safety and sanity. She will be angry and hurt, may even states she hates you; please, please realize that this is th drugs/alcohol talking not your daughter. Stay strong and bite down hard on the next decisions you will make. It is for her good and yours. Bless you
snelsand (Susan Alberta, Canada)
Posted by: mnb0922
Posted on: 2004-02-19 11:47:17
rmccoury54, I dont have a daughter that is going through the same thing but I have a aunt who is just destroying her life and we as a family just do not know what to do anymore. she has been in and out of hospitals so many times I cant even count on my hands and feet, it is not enough. Our family has been throwing suggestions in the air but we are running out of them. But if you could maybe give me some things that could help, maybe we have not tried all of the answers. We all want to be there for her but it just seems like everytime she says she is great and clean she is back into the hospital not even weeks after. She is putting alot of stress on my grandparents and I just hate seeing the so upset. But if anyone has any suggestions I am up for them!mnb0922
mnb0922
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 13:18:09
well,mnb0922 thats the sad part about addictions you can't fix your aunt only your aunt can fix her problems she is such denial which is a clear sympton of an addict she has to do the work and work the program set before her she knows better than anyone of you what she needs to do. you just need to pray for her and be there to listen and any suggestion you pass on to her well she either excepts them or refuses them,just rember her life is her's and she needs to own her own choices. i know this isn't no cure for your case but as long as you know in your heart you did everything you could then leave it there. and put this in GOD'S hands. rmccoury54 take care and i will be coming back to see you.!!!!!!
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 13:18:09
well,mnb0922 thats the sad part about addictions you can't fix your aunt only your aunt can fix her problems she is such denial which is a clear sympton of an addict she has to do the work and work the program set before her she knows better than anyone of you what she needs to do. you just need to pray for her and be there to listen and any suggestion you pass on to her well she either excepts them or refuses them,just rember her life is her's and she needs to own her own choices. i know this isn't no cure for your case but as long as you know in your heart you did everything you could then leave it there. and put this in GOD'S hands. rmccoury54 take care and i will be coming back to see you.!!!!!!
Help
Posted by: dndvogt
Posted on: 2004-02-19 14:58:58
Get to Alanon. There will be people there who have lived what you are living and are taking care of themselves. Alanon gave me a new life.
Posted by: dndvogt
Posted on: 2004-02-19 14:58:58
Get to Alanon. There will be people there who have lived what you are living and are taking care of themselves. Alanon gave me a new life.
Posted by: wolfbitch
Posted on: 2004-02-19 17:54:46
My best friend has been on methadone for eight years and she is like the walking dead. She can't leave town because she can't get enough days of methadone to take with her. She won't go to NA meetings with me. She doesn't seem very happy at all. We don't really hang out together anymore because I am completely clean, but I am afraid of relapsing if I spend time with her. If you can't get your daughter to go to treatment or NA meetings, I would encourage you to attend alanon. You will find other parents there, good parents, who have children who are addicted to drugs. Addiction is such a baffling disease. When I was using, I started lying and covering up my drug use. My mother believed me because I had always been truthful with her about everything else. I guess it's just like parents who have kids with cancer; the parent has to learn all kinds of new facts about the disease, even though many of those facts may be painful. The good news about addiction is that it doesn't have to be fatal. My heart goes out to you! Take care, keep asking questions, and please check into al-anon meetings. There's probably some in your town.
Where do I start?
Posted by: kfenoglio
Posted on: 2004-03-01 19:19:14
I have a cousin whom I love very much, who has been through rehab and may have relasped.I feel distant from our relationship and don't know how she will react after all that has happened. She is a very quiet self consumed person and never talked about her problem. I never knew she had one till she got in trouble by the law. How can I start a new relationship? Most her friends have distant themselves from her and I don't want to be one. I know she needs support more than ever, how do I start?
Posted by: kfenoglio
Posted on: 2004-03-01 19:19:14
I have a cousin whom I love very much, who has been through rehab and may have relasped.I feel distant from our relationship and don't know how she will react after all that has happened. She is a very quiet self consumed person and never talked about her problem. I never knew she had one till she got in trouble by the law. How can I start a new relationship? Most her friends have distant themselves from her and I don't want to be one. I know she needs support more than ever, how do I start?
Saying a Prayer for the Desperate Hearts Tonight
Posted by: wolfbitch
Posted on: 2004-02-19 10:22:11
Thank you, Susan! I know that when I first got clean and was shaking from withdrawal, I never could have imagined that I would one day be sitting on the other side encouraging others. I believe that counselors in treatment centers plant seeds. Even if the person doesn't get clean right away, that person knows where they can go to finally get help. I also will keep praying for XTCgirl and many others. As recovering addict Steven Tyler put it, "I'm saying a prayer for the desperate hearts tonight." I think of that song, Amazing, by Aerosmith, as being the junky's version of Amazing Grace. :)
Posted by: wolfbitch
Posted on: 2004-02-19 10:22:11
Thank you, Susan! I know that when I first got clean and was shaking from withdrawal, I never could have imagined that I would one day be sitting on the other side encouraging others. I believe that counselors in treatment centers plant seeds. Even if the person doesn't get clean right away, that person knows where they can go to finally get help. I also will keep praying for XTCgirl and many others. As recovering addict Steven Tyler put it, "I'm saying a prayer for the desperate hearts tonight." I think of that song, Amazing, by Aerosmith, as being the junky's version of Amazing Grace. :)
excellant work
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 11:06:55
wolfbitch;
I am proud of the work you did for yourself and the support you are sharing with others in need. Keep up your great work. It's worth it and you are worth it.
snelsand (Susan Alberta, Canada)
Posted by: snelsand
Posted on: 2004-02-19 11:06:55
wolfbitch;
I am proud of the work you did for yourself and the support you are sharing with others in need. Keep up your great work. It's worth it and you are worth it.
snelsand (Susan Alberta, Canada)
count your blessings
Posted by: joanorjb
Posted on: 2004-02-20 12:50:11
Brandon
You need to know how very lucky you are, to have Dr. Phil on your side and his concern for you. I have a daughter 21yrs old that is in very bad shape has been for yearsssss, and i would do any thing to have DR. Phils help with her, she has two boys 2yrs and 3yrs old which i am raising . So i guess what im saying is stay strong and do it for you , not for your parents or any one else do it for you .
MY prayers are with you hang in there
Joan
Posted by: joanorjb
Posted on: 2004-02-20 12:50:11
Brandon
You need to know how very lucky you are, to have Dr. Phil on your side and his concern for you. I have a daughter 21yrs old that is in very bad shape has been for yearsssss, and i would do any thing to have DR. Phils help with her, she has two boys 2yrs and 3yrs old which i am raising . So i guess what im saying is stay strong and do it for you , not for your parents or any one else do it for you .
MY prayers are with you hang in there
Joan
wolfbitch ay a prayer for mine
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-20 18:52:47
my daughter is an addict and we have been struggling for 10 years in and out of rehabs and now 7 year old son that i need to care for because she has such a dufficult time juggling going to a methadone clinic and taking the son's father to work in the morning then home to sleep so she can work at night. there has beeen alot of tension in the house now because she has relasped again blew all her income tax money on drugs. of course i found out and she is pissed because she couldn't hide it this time. mom was paying attention and was very suspecious to,so it all come out and now we r trying get a solution that we both can live with. its hard being an addict and living with one when i am clean and sober and always have been never been into that scene.so its hard on me thanks for listening rmccoury54
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-20 18:52:47
my daughter is an addict and we have been struggling for 10 years in and out of rehabs and now 7 year old son that i need to care for because she has such a dufficult time juggling going to a methadone clinic and taking the son's father to work in the morning then home to sleep so she can work at night. there has beeen alot of tension in the house now because she has relasped again blew all her income tax money on drugs. of course i found out and she is pissed because she couldn't hide it this time. mom was paying attention and was very suspecious to,so it all come out and now we r trying get a solution that we both can live with. its hard being an addict and living with one when i am clean and sober and always have been never been into that scene.so its hard on me thanks for listening rmccoury54
I Absolutely Will!
Posted by: wolfbitch
Posted on: 2004-03-02 18:27:55
Hi! Sorry I did not respond sooner. That is definitely very hard on you. You and your daughter and the rest of your family are in my thoughts and prayers!
Posted by: wolfbitch
Posted on: 2004-03-02 18:27:55
Hi! Sorry I did not respond sooner. That is definitely very hard on you. You and your daughter and the rest of your family are in my thoughts and prayers!
xtcgirl
Posted by: turttlemom
Posted on: 2004-02-19 13:20:59
Im not judging you I pray you get through this, its a shame Dr. Phil cant have everyone on his show to give this much help to, but I do have one suggestion..change your screen name to something like imhopeful or idomatter.. just a thought. as long as you think of yourself as this thats what you'll be. good luck god bless turttlemom
Posted by: turttlemom
Posted on: 2004-02-19 13:20:59
Im not judging you I pray you get through this, its a shame Dr. Phil cant have everyone on his show to give this much help to, but I do have one suggestion..change your screen name to something like imhopeful or idomatter.. just a thought. as long as you think of yourself as this thats what you'll be. good luck god bless turttlemom
U CAN DO IT
Posted by: beckit1958
Posted on: 2004-02-18 16:33:27
XTCGIRL: How long do you think you can do X before you end up dead. I think it is great that you want Brandon to get well but what about u. U are just as important. Talk to someone get help you are worth it
Posted by: beckit1958
Posted on: 2004-02-18 16:33:27
XTCGIRL: How long do you think you can do X before you end up dead. I think it is great that you want Brandon to get well but what about u. U are just as important. Talk to someone get help you are worth it
beckit1958
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:41:32
i am with you girl this child is denial and deep trouble with x she will be dead if she keeps it up we need to encourage her to get some help.and i mean she should be running to rehab.
Posted by: rmccoury54
Posted on: 2004-02-19 09:41:32
i am with you girl this child is denial and deep trouble with x she will be dead if she keeps it up we need to encourage her to get some help.and i mean she should be running to rehab.
