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Posted by: nanny668
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:04:55
Dr. Phil, I have to say that I love your show and I think you give great advice. You have proven time and again that you really know your stuff BUT, I really have to say that I think you made a bad choice in having the audiance comment directly to Marty and Erin about how they feel! This family has already let all of us peek into their lives every week. Do you really think we should also be commenting on it when we obviously don't know the WHOLE story? Like Marty said, we only see snipets of tape. We don't live with them.
I just think that it must be hard enough on the family. They know everybody is sitting at home with their own opinions. I don't think Marty and Erin should be confronted on national television and have to defend themselves to these OVERLY judgemental people!!! Let's leave the counsiling to YOU, Dr. Phil.
Posted by: nanny668
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:04:55
Dr. Phil, I have to say that I love your show and I think you give great advice. You have proven time and again that you really know your stuff BUT, I really have to say that I think you made a bad choice in having the audiance comment directly to Marty and Erin about how they feel! This family has already let all of us peek into their lives every week. Do you really think we should also be commenting on it when we obviously don't know the WHOLE story? Like Marty said, we only see snipets of tape. We don't live with them.
I just think that it must be hard enough on the family. They know everybody is sitting at home with their own opinions. I don't think Marty and Erin should be confronted on national television and have to defend themselves to these OVERLY judgemental people!!! Let's leave the counsiling to YOU, Dr. Phil.
Missing the point
Posted by: rplyons1
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:18:12
Dr. Phil, Marty and Erin willingly subject themselves to our comments for the same reason we turn on the television and tune in to their lives. We are looking for insights into our own life struggles, whether they come from the professionals like Dr. Phil or common citizens like Marty, Erin or you. Each one of us is qualified to speak on life issues because we live it every day. Some of our struggles are very similar and if someone out there has been where I am and can shed light on how to get through it, then I'm going to listen. I don't have to agree, I don't have to follow the advice, but I am definitely going to take it all in. That is what Dr. Phil says all the time and I commend Marty and Erin for their openness and their courage.
Posted by: rplyons1
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:18:12
Dr. Phil, Marty and Erin willingly subject themselves to our comments for the same reason we turn on the television and tune in to their lives. We are looking for insights into our own life struggles, whether they come from the professionals like Dr. Phil or common citizens like Marty, Erin or you. Each one of us is qualified to speak on life issues because we live it every day. Some of our struggles are very similar and if someone out there has been where I am and can shed light on how to get through it, then I'm going to listen. I don't have to agree, I don't have to follow the advice, but I am definitely going to take it all in. That is what Dr. Phil says all the time and I commend Marty and Erin for their openness and their courage.
Points
Posted by: pryzms
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:46:58
Mary and Erin are brave indeed, to be out in the public eye, having their dirty laundry aired having to confront all the issues. Yes we can sit here and scream at them thru the tv, say ur lame, u are not trying, and yes it does seem that way at times, and i want to smack em once in a while and say..excuse me. but we do learn from them, see their pasts, mistakes, maybe we make the same mistake and it hits us upside the head at that point and u go hhmmm.. This is a tough issue for this family that is definetly in turmoil, but u can tell they love and care for each other, when one is attacked, the rest usually rear up and defend. unless it's Erin and Marty is getting berated for doing something stupid or not doing something he should be,then she's rolling her eyes or agreeing with the message. just an observation.
Posted by: pryzms
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:46:58
Mary and Erin are brave indeed, to be out in the public eye, having their dirty laundry aired having to confront all the issues. Yes we can sit here and scream at them thru the tv, say ur lame, u are not trying, and yes it does seem that way at times, and i want to smack em once in a while and say..excuse me. but we do learn from them, see their pasts, mistakes, maybe we make the same mistake and it hits us upside the head at that point and u go hhmmm.. This is a tough issue for this family that is definetly in turmoil, but u can tell they love and care for each other, when one is attacked, the rest usually rear up and defend. unless it's Erin and Marty is getting berated for doing something stupid or not doing something he should be,then she's rolling her eyes or agreeing with the message. just an observation.
Marty and Erin
Posted by: jpholder
Posted on: 2004-01-15 21:15:27
I disagree with the viewer who said that Erin never defended Marty, only rolled her eyes back in her head when someone was talking about him. I found her to very defensive of him today by way of telephone. She didn't care a bit to speak up. Now on the other hand, Marty still has problems doing the same for her. He is better but still has issues. But then...don't we all? I admire them for making their lives an open book and don't think there is any way that I could be as open to this exposure as they have been when my home was also in shambles. I applaud them for trying openly to resolve issues and help others in the process. I applaud Dr. Phil for his patience and generosity as he not only helps them but others. Every one deserves the opportunity to have that changing day in their life.
Posted by: jpholder
Posted on: 2004-01-15 21:15:27
I disagree with the viewer who said that Erin never defended Marty, only rolled her eyes back in her head when someone was talking about him. I found her to very defensive of him today by way of telephone. She didn't care a bit to speak up. Now on the other hand, Marty still has problems doing the same for her. He is better but still has issues. But then...don't we all? I admire them for making their lives an open book and don't think there is any way that I could be as open to this exposure as they have been when my home was also in shambles. I applaud them for trying openly to resolve issues and help others in the process. I applaud Dr. Phil for his patience and generosity as he not only helps them but others. Every one deserves the opportunity to have that changing day in their life.
Posted by: drpviewer
Posted on: 2004-01-20 14:04:25
I disagree with you 100%. Erin agreed with the audience member who criticized Marty. Something to the effect of "Marty you don't get to decide when 'until' is".
I have a real problem with Erin blaming him for everything. However, it does seem she is improving the relationship with the girls.
Bottom line: Erin isn't and has never been in love with Marty. That is not going to change and she needs to get out of the relationship so he can get on with his life.
i disagree w/you
Posted by: arizonzsky
Posted on: 2004-01-24 19:00:45
I think at one time Erin did love Marty. I just feel that he has done so much wrong that she has sheltered her love from him so she can protect herself from the pain she has been delt.
Posted by: arizonzsky
Posted on: 2004-01-24 19:00:45
I think at one time Erin did love Marty. I just feel that he has done so much wrong that she has sheltered her love from him so she can protect herself from the pain she has been delt.
I totally disagree!
Posted by: avidity
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:53:50
Whether or not the family has agreed to put their lives on television is beside the point. I highly doubt they agreed to be ripped up by viewers infront of millions of people.
Granted, there is no way to stop people from having opinions and wanting to express them (this message board is a perfect example) but to say, on national television no less, things like "What is wrong with this family?! Do they have no love!?" and shouting it passionately as if they were a part of the family themselves is over the top.
I agree that everyone is going to have their own opinions and allowing themselves to be on the show they have left themselves vulnerable to that, but some of the things people were saying, and the nature in which they were saying them with such anger, were just obnoxious.
And like it was mentioned, no one knows this family outsde of the hour a week they're on television, nor does anyone aside from Dr. Phil have any idea what their life was like before they became the Dr. Phil family.
They came to the show for help, not to be ridiculed by people who know nothing about them.
Posted by: avidity
Posted on: 2004-01-15 11:53:50
Whether or not the family has agreed to put their lives on television is beside the point. I highly doubt they agreed to be ripped up by viewers infront of millions of people.
Granted, there is no way to stop people from having opinions and wanting to express them (this message board is a perfect example) but to say, on national television no less, things like "What is wrong with this family?! Do they have no love!?" and shouting it passionately as if they were a part of the family themselves is over the top.
I agree that everyone is going to have their own opinions and allowing themselves to be on the show they have left themselves vulnerable to that, but some of the things people were saying, and the nature in which they were saying them with such anger, were just obnoxious.
And like it was mentioned, no one knows this family outsde of the hour a week they're on television, nor does anyone aside from Dr. Phil have any idea what their life was like before they became the Dr. Phil family.
They came to the show for help, not to be ridiculed by people who know nothing about them.
January 15 Show Comments
Posted by: frantcook
Posted on: 2004-01-15 13:05:58
The comments that came from Joy and Barbara were very insensitive. Joy may have had somewhat of a point, but her demeanor showed attitude. Look in the mirror, Joy, and it will scare you!! And Barbara, you are obnoxious. You talked over Marty when he was explaining himself. How rude of you. Come on, give the guy a break - he's trying. Maybe you should try some new shoes also??
Posted by: frantcook
Posted on: 2004-01-15 13:05:58
The comments that came from Joy and Barbara were very insensitive. Joy may have had somewhat of a point, but her demeanor showed attitude. Look in the mirror, Joy, and it will scare you!! And Barbara, you are obnoxious. You talked over Marty when he was explaining himself. How rude of you. Come on, give the guy a break - he's trying. Maybe you should try some new shoes also??
At least give him credit for trying .
Posted by: justpicky
Posted on: 2004-01-15 17:10:47
I have to agree, I can see Marty is trying , at least give him credit , where credit is due . Marty keep up with the good job.
Posted by: justpicky
Posted on: 2004-01-15 17:10:47
I have to agree, I can see Marty is trying , at least give him credit , where credit is due . Marty keep up with the good job.
Give Marty a Break
Posted by: joeysmom5
Posted on: 2004-01-23 12:42:45
I agree, I think Marty has alot of GUTS...he lives in a home full of women and it is so ez to blame him for everything...I came from a home where my father showed no love or respect whatsoever to us and I know even today, he would never in a million years own up to that nor would he go on National TV to admit his faults...I am a woman and live in a home full of men, beleive me it is ez to look like the problems all lie with you...
Marty is commendable..he has been through so much and at least appears to be trying to change....I also agree that viewers should share their views on this message board and NOT have a platform on TV..that does not help anyone at all.
Posted by: joeysmom5
Posted on: 2004-01-23 12:42:45
I agree, I think Marty has alot of GUTS...he lives in a home full of women and it is so ez to blame him for everything...I came from a home where my father showed no love or respect whatsoever to us and I know even today, he would never in a million years own up to that nor would he go on National TV to admit his faults...I am a woman and live in a home full of men, beleive me it is ez to look like the problems all lie with you...
Marty is commendable..he has been through so much and at least appears to be trying to change....I also agree that viewers should share their views on this message board and NOT have a platform on TV..that does not help anyone at all.
I feel Marty's pain
Posted by: cefrye
Posted on: 2004-01-24 09:23:51
My twin sister & I could not see or meet our father until his wife died. She could not have children and was jealous. My father never tried to contact my sister and I and it hurts but Marty, you now know how much your father loved you and that should mean a lot. My mother has passed away and she did not marry our father. We met our father at age 44. I am now 53 and my father is dying of cancer. Marty, I cried with you in Germany and I felt your pain. I feel now that you have faced your past and found your brother in Germany, you are a real good catch. So, Erin, there is an "oldie but goodie" song that goes like this, "You had better hold on to what you've got, because if you think no other woman wants him, just throw him away and you will see, some wooman will have your man before you can count, 1,2,3, yes they will, yes they will. I wish I could sing this to you because it really says a lot about you and Marty. I think you two have a great chance of happiness, don't loose it. Marty,continue to show Erin how much you love her, we women like to see and feel it a lot more than hearing it. You CAN do it Marty. Thank you both for sharing so much of your life with us. God bless you and your family
Posted by: cefrye
Posted on: 2004-01-24 09:23:51
My twin sister & I could not see or meet our father until his wife died. She could not have children and was jealous. My father never tried to contact my sister and I and it hurts but Marty, you now know how much your father loved you and that should mean a lot. My mother has passed away and she did not marry our father. We met our father at age 44. I am now 53 and my father is dying of cancer. Marty, I cried with you in Germany and I felt your pain. I feel now that you have faced your past and found your brother in Germany, you are a real good catch. So, Erin, there is an "oldie but goodie" song that goes like this, "You had better hold on to what you've got, because if you think no other woman wants him, just throw him away and you will see, some wooman will have your man before you can count, 1,2,3, yes they will, yes they will. I wish I could sing this to you because it really says a lot about you and Marty. I think you two have a great chance of happiness, don't loose it. Marty,continue to show Erin how much you love her, we women like to see and feel it a lot more than hearing it. You CAN do it Marty. Thank you both for sharing so much of your life with us. God bless you and your family
Posted by: suziedq
Posted on: 2004-01-15 17:11:48
I completly agree with frantcooks comments about Barbara, she must think that she is miss perfect, I think that Marty is really doing the best he can under the circumstances and he has come along way, and I think its very unfair the way Barbara has been putting him down, I think that he is wearing his new shoes to the fullest and its time that Barbara starts wearing hers.
Posted by: cefrye
Posted on: 2004-01-24 09:29:09
I agree with suziedg, Barbara needs to get a life. Marty is doing his best and to me if a person is trying, don't knock them down while they are trying to get up. I too think Barbara has some issues she needs to work on, just like all of us. Barbara, give a little credit where it's due.
Well Said,Fran
Posted by: 2004donna
Posted on: 2004-01-24 18:29:54
I agree with you 100 per cent--Barbara does need new shoes==She was very rude to Marty and should look in the mirror at herself??
Posted by: 2004donna
Posted on: 2004-01-24 18:29:54
I agree with you 100 per cent--Barbara does need new shoes==She was very rude to Marty and should look in the mirror at herself??
in agreement
Posted by: btsymom
Posted on: 2004-01-15 15:23:28
I totally agree with the statement that they are on the show for help, not to be ridiculed by America. Dr.Phil, I think that you are doing a wonderful job with every member of the Dr.Phil family. I was very happy that Alexandra decided to keep her baby. I am going to love to see how the merge of the families go
Posted by: btsymom
Posted on: 2004-01-15 15:23:28
I totally agree with the statement that they are on the show for help, not to be ridiculed by America. Dr.Phil, I think that you are doing a wonderful job with every member of the Dr.Phil family. I was very happy that Alexandra decided to keep her baby. I am going to love to see how the merge of the families go
It's Television
Posted by: clp500
Posted on: 2004-01-15 17:37:41
Have you forgotten that although we may all be smitten with Dr. Phil McGraw he is after all on a nationally televised program every day. This is reality T.V. and he must get his viewers involved so that they will continue to watch. I paid $100.00 a ticket to see him for two hrs. in Houston. He is marketing himself and he must get folks involved even at the expense of his guests. On the other side if Marty and Erin are annoyed let them pay 20K for the therapy that they have gotten this part yr.
It comes with the territory.
Posted by: clp500
Posted on: 2004-01-15 17:37:41
Have you forgotten that although we may all be smitten with Dr. Phil McGraw he is after all on a nationally televised program every day. This is reality T.V. and he must get his viewers involved so that they will continue to watch. I paid $100.00 a ticket to see him for two hrs. in Houston. He is marketing himself and he must get folks involved even at the expense of his guests. On the other side if Marty and Erin are annoyed let them pay 20K for the therapy that they have gotten this part yr.
It comes with the territory.
Posted by: cefrye
Posted on: 2004-01-24 09:35:17
I don't believe Dr. Phil needs to get anyone involved. I feel most of us watch Dr. Phil to get a little free therpy every day. I truly believe Dr. Phil would do just fine if the Dr. Phil show was no longer there. Of course you paid $100 to see him. Did you expect him to give up his time without pay? Dr. Phil is the best thing that has happened to television since Oprah.
It's Television
Posted by: clp500
Posted on: 2004-01-15 17:37:45
Have you forgotten that although we may all be smitten with Dr. Phil McGraw he is after all on a nationally televised program every day. This is reality T.V. and he must get his viewers involved so that they will continue to watch. I paid $100.00 a ticket to see him for two hrs. in Houston. He is marketing himself and he must get folks involved even at the expense of his guests. On the other side if Marty and Erin are annoyed let them pay 20K for the therapy that they have gotten this part yr.
It comes with the territory.
Posted by: clp500
Posted on: 2004-01-15 17:37:45
Have you forgotten that although we may all be smitten with Dr. Phil McGraw he is after all on a nationally televised program every day. This is reality T.V. and he must get his viewers involved so that they will continue to watch. I paid $100.00 a ticket to see him for two hrs. in Houston. He is marketing himself and he must get folks involved even at the expense of his guests. On the other side if Marty and Erin are annoyed let them pay 20K for the therapy that they have gotten this part yr.
It comes with the territory.
Dr. Phil Family
Posted by: mevonne
Posted on: 2004-01-15 19:06:26
Today a viewer was given the chance to interact with Marty a second time. The gift of time between her first attack and her second should have given her more sense. We can learn from this family, but it is not our right to criticize or ridicule any member. We should encourage anyone who has this much courage to expose their fears and faults to a huge public audience. I applaud all of them and have no negative comments to make. They are learning and we are too. No one has gone through life without pain or injury. We have also left an imprint on others.....and sometimes that has hurt. I see progress, so my comment is....."good for all of you"..... you are all braver than me.
Posted by: mevonne
Posted on: 2004-01-15 19:06:26
Today a viewer was given the chance to interact with Marty a second time. The gift of time between her first attack and her second should have given her more sense. We can learn from this family, but it is not our right to criticize or ridicule any member. We should encourage anyone who has this much courage to expose their fears and faults to a huge public audience. I applaud all of them and have no negative comments to make. They are learning and we are too. No one has gone through life without pain or injury. We have also left an imprint on others.....and sometimes that has hurt. I see progress, so my comment is....."good for all of you"..... you are all braver than me.
audience was asked
Posted by: karkare
Posted on: 2004-01-15 19:30:10
You may not like the criticism, but the audience was asked to participate. Do you people really think that the way to help these people is to coddle them and tell them all good things and not point out the problems or shortcomings? I see Dr. Phil pointing many things out with very strong wording. Barbara spoke very respectfully to him, and he answered with nastiness. Notice his facial expressions throughout the show. He is just a jerk, and everyone telling him how good he's doing is a crock. He seems to think he is a celebrity now, too. Yuck.
Posted by: karkare
Posted on: 2004-01-15 19:30:10
You may not like the criticism, but the audience was asked to participate. Do you people really think that the way to help these people is to coddle them and tell them all good things and not point out the problems or shortcomings? I see Dr. Phil pointing many things out with very strong wording. Barbara spoke very respectfully to him, and he answered with nastiness. Notice his facial expressions throughout the show. He is just a jerk, and everyone telling him how good he's doing is a crock. He seems to think he is a celebrity now, too. Yuck.
