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Posted on: 2005-02-19 01:25:14
I haven't seen the show yet, but I can tell you that binge drinking is not a new trend. In college 15 years ago, I was in a fraternity and was at a party where I drank 23 "kamikaze" drinks (upside down in a dental chair.) We were trying to see who could set a new record. I won. I probably should have died that night. I was lucky to sleep it off, but I was horribly sick for 3 to 4 days after that.
I was an "A" student in high school in college prep classes, had a good childhood, and had good parents. There is nothing a parent can do when kids do dumb things. You just have to be the best parent you know how to be, and hope your kids make reasonably good choices, and have a bit of luck to survive the high school and college years.
There will always be "parties" during the school years, and unfortunately, kids don't always know when to stop. I had 23 drinks in no more than 30 minutes. I should have known better, but I was trying to impress everyone.
So, my advice to the parents is to teach their kids that they should always have the confidence to go against their peers, if it is something that could harm them.
If kids have good self esteem and are confident, they stand the best chances of surviving foolish behavior. But even good kids don't always make it, which is a terrrible tragedy for the parents. I extend my deepest sympathy for the parents on the show for their loss. They probably couldn't have done anything to prevent this tragedy.
BingeDrinking.
Posted by: hpmx590
Posted on: 2005-02-19 20:22:06
My advice if you girls drink donot drive at-
all or you will be dead. Parents please tea-
ch you children about not to drink at all.--
I think Binge Drinking is not allow at all--
As for Sam Spady Parents I wish it didnot---
happen at all. Alcohol is not a game to p---
lay with even at party at CSU In Fort Colli-
ns, Colorado. Please parents look out for---
girls drinking problem. Well I had better---
close now. Russell
Posted by: hpmx590
Posted on: 2005-02-19 20:22:06
My advice if you girls drink donot drive at-
all or you will be dead. Parents please tea-
ch you children about not to drink at all.--
I think Binge Drinking is not allow at all--
As for Sam Spady Parents I wish it didnot---
happen at all. Alcohol is not a game to p---
lay with even at party at CSU In Fort Colli-
ns, Colorado. Please parents look out for---
girls drinking problem. Well I had better---
close now. Russell
Binge Drinking
Posted by: star642005
Posted on: 2005-02-21 16:35:12
I agree. Binge drinking is nothing new, even for teens in High School.
I am 40 now but back when I was a teen of 15 up until the age of 17, I used to attend parties and we'd all binge. We'd have beer chugging contests and I was a participant.
I ended up in the hospital at the age of 17 because I drank too much. I had chugged a lot of beers, plus drank a magnum of wine and a 40 ozer of schnapps. The ambulance was called because I was hyperventilating. I got sick on the way to the hospital and while in the hospital. I hardly remember getting to that hospital. I remember waking up with dried puke all over my hair and clothes thinking how much of a loser I was to even end up that way in the first place. I was so embarrassed of myself.
The doctor and nurses told me that morning that it was a very good thing that i did get sick or i would've had alcohol poisoning and probably would've ended up in a coma or worse. That was very scary for me and stopped chugging from that point on. I was lucky.
I wasn't an alcoholic, I was just a kid that made a few bad choices. Now I have 2 teenage girls of my own. I worry about them every day. I talk to them about the dangers of drugs and alcohol all the time. My girls have never seen me with a drink in my hand. My husband and I don't drink at all.
There is hope for these kids who experiment with alcohol, just as long as the lesson they need to learn is learned. This boy on the show today is clearly an alcoholic. He does need to go to rehab and sober up. He'll also need to change his friends and lifestyle habits if he is to be successful and that will be a huge challenge for him once he's in college.
I wish that boy all the best for the future. He's made some bad choices that got him into some deep trouble but he is young enough that he can recover from it all.
To all the parents out there that allow your children to have a drink here and there. Don't! You're just asking for trouble when you do that. They have a legal age limit for a good reason. Kids cannot handle the responsibility of alcohol use. They are kids, not adults.
Posted by: star642005
Posted on: 2005-02-21 16:35:12
I agree. Binge drinking is nothing new, even for teens in High School.
I am 40 now but back when I was a teen of 15 up until the age of 17, I used to attend parties and we'd all binge. We'd have beer chugging contests and I was a participant.
I ended up in the hospital at the age of 17 because I drank too much. I had chugged a lot of beers, plus drank a magnum of wine and a 40 ozer of schnapps. The ambulance was called because I was hyperventilating. I got sick on the way to the hospital and while in the hospital. I hardly remember getting to that hospital. I remember waking up with dried puke all over my hair and clothes thinking how much of a loser I was to even end up that way in the first place. I was so embarrassed of myself.
The doctor and nurses told me that morning that it was a very good thing that i did get sick or i would've had alcohol poisoning and probably would've ended up in a coma or worse. That was very scary for me and stopped chugging from that point on. I was lucky.
I wasn't an alcoholic, I was just a kid that made a few bad choices. Now I have 2 teenage girls of my own. I worry about them every day. I talk to them about the dangers of drugs and alcohol all the time. My girls have never seen me with a drink in my hand. My husband and I don't drink at all.
There is hope for these kids who experiment with alcohol, just as long as the lesson they need to learn is learned. This boy on the show today is clearly an alcoholic. He does need to go to rehab and sober up. He'll also need to change his friends and lifestyle habits if he is to be successful and that will be a huge challenge for him once he's in college.
I wish that boy all the best for the future. He's made some bad choices that got him into some deep trouble but he is young enough that he can recover from it all.
To all the parents out there that allow your children to have a drink here and there. Don't! You're just asking for trouble when you do that. They have a legal age limit for a good reason. Kids cannot handle the responsibility of alcohol use. They are kids, not adults.
I Agree!
Posted by: mljk44
Posted on: 2005-02-22 20:15:33
You are absolutely right. I drank a LOT in college and THANK GOD I survived, but I should have died many times. My husband and I were both heavy drinkers at that time. It seems funny when you're young, but it's not so cute to get wasted as you get older and older. A lampshade on the head is embarassing at age 40+. My husband and I are both now in Alcoholics Anonymous and it has changed our lives. We've been sober over 6 years. I sometimes wonder how much better college would have been with a clear head. We have 2 kids, ages 18 and 20 who are vehemently opposed to drinking and drugs. They aren't nerds. They play sports, read and write poetry, go to museums and plays, are very active in clubs at their college campuses and at their churches. It's wrong to think that all kids drink.
That teenage boy is definitely an alcoholic and his parents are clueless. If I were Dr. Phil, I would have been even sterner with the parents and told them if the kid doesn't straighten up, maybe he shouldn't be going to college, at least until he's been sober for at least a year. The parents also need some counseling because they certainly don't understand the disease.
Posted by: mljk44
Posted on: 2005-02-22 20:15:33
You are absolutely right. I drank a LOT in college and THANK GOD I survived, but I should have died many times. My husband and I were both heavy drinkers at that time. It seems funny when you're young, but it's not so cute to get wasted as you get older and older. A lampshade on the head is embarassing at age 40+. My husband and I are both now in Alcoholics Anonymous and it has changed our lives. We've been sober over 6 years. I sometimes wonder how much better college would have been with a clear head. We have 2 kids, ages 18 and 20 who are vehemently opposed to drinking and drugs. They aren't nerds. They play sports, read and write poetry, go to museums and plays, are very active in clubs at their college campuses and at their churches. It's wrong to think that all kids drink.
That teenage boy is definitely an alcoholic and his parents are clueless. If I were Dr. Phil, I would have been even sterner with the parents and told them if the kid doesn't straighten up, maybe he shouldn't be going to college, at least until he's been sober for at least a year. The parents also need some counseling because they certainly don't understand the disease.
robodosing. the logest trend ive been on.
Posted by: nobodyuser
Posted on: 2005-02-21 17:41:39
20 yrs ago I was once a teen who did this. 20 yrs later im still doing it, i want to quit but i've been addicted for more than half my life now. Longest i stopped was 6 months last yr and for 2 weeks another time about 7 yrs ago. Its been my secret and i've hidden it for all this time. When everyone finds out, I'm afraid it will be to late as it will be during my autopsy. I had three close calls in the last 5 months, but still i cant stop. I feed the hospital the same story and always refused blood tests and leave before they try.
I male, and i hardly watch your show. I hated todays, it was painful to watch (but had no choice, i won't say why) and I feel sorry for those teens. When u start your young and invincible, but like i said, its been exactly 20 yrs and 3 days since i began this madness, and now my body is beginning to fail. But i still need my fix when i wake up and throughout the day. The really sad part is, this is all purchased from a pharmacies, theres about 30 around the area so i barley am noticed. I never stole my OTC drugs to supply my habit. You'd be surprised tho' of my lifestyle and my success. But thats not important, what is impotant everyday is to get my fix. My wife , children, family and business all take the back burner until i get medicated. Didnt know about the paralysis or the hemmoraging, explains a few things now. And a "trend" thats also new to me.
Posted by: nobodyuser
Posted on: 2005-02-21 17:41:39
20 yrs ago I was once a teen who did this. 20 yrs later im still doing it, i want to quit but i've been addicted for more than half my life now. Longest i stopped was 6 months last yr and for 2 weeks another time about 7 yrs ago. Its been my secret and i've hidden it for all this time. When everyone finds out, I'm afraid it will be to late as it will be during my autopsy. I had three close calls in the last 5 months, but still i cant stop. I feed the hospital the same story and always refused blood tests and leave before they try.
I male, and i hardly watch your show. I hated todays, it was painful to watch (but had no choice, i won't say why) and I feel sorry for those teens. When u start your young and invincible, but like i said, its been exactly 20 yrs and 3 days since i began this madness, and now my body is beginning to fail. But i still need my fix when i wake up and throughout the day. The really sad part is, this is all purchased from a pharmacies, theres about 30 around the area so i barley am noticed. I never stole my OTC drugs to supply my habit. You'd be surprised tho' of my lifestyle and my success. But thats not important, what is impotant everyday is to get my fix. My wife , children, family and business all take the back burner until i get medicated. Didnt know about the paralysis or the hemmoraging, explains a few things now. And a "trend" thats also new to me.
I am looking to make connections with Bingers:
Posted by: lindalou34
Posted on: 2005-02-22 10:23:43
I read your post and some of the things you said, had sounded like me. I have been binge drinking for awhile now. My Mom has a brain tumore(but doing well)and this is my little secret, but I am ready for a change and I am looking for support. I get myself in these situations to where I am around drinks and i either buy a bottle or start drinking, problem is, I can't stop. Saturday night I did this(in the comfort of home), but woke and had wet the bed and thrown up beside the bed. I knew this was a wake-up call for myself(along with all the others I have been getting) and I really knew it when I saw the show yesterday. I didn't even remember going to bed or anything. Another thing, is drinking runs in my family and I have to put a stop to it now. My grand-dad, that I never met, died at my age. He was drunk and got suck in a ditch on his horse and couldn't get out.
Please respond anyone to my letter. Thanks
Posted by: lindalou34
Posted on: 2005-02-22 10:23:43
I read your post and some of the things you said, had sounded like me. I have been binge drinking for awhile now. My Mom has a brain tumore(but doing well)and this is my little secret, but I am ready for a change and I am looking for support. I get myself in these situations to where I am around drinks and i either buy a bottle or start drinking, problem is, I can't stop. Saturday night I did this(in the comfort of home), but woke and had wet the bed and thrown up beside the bed. I knew this was a wake-up call for myself(along with all the others I have been getting) and I really knew it when I saw the show yesterday. I didn't even remember going to bed or anything. Another thing, is drinking runs in my family and I have to put a stop to it now. My grand-dad, that I never met, died at my age. He was drunk and got suck in a ditch on his horse and couldn't get out.
Please respond anyone to my letter. Thanks
lindalou34
Posted by: mischif12
Posted on: 2005-02-22 11:09:02
You sound like a good person with a good head on her sholders. Going through a family illness is very scarey and tough. You don't say how old you are but if you are drinking to "black-out" you most likely have a problem. I have been where you are and am now sober. But I had to stay out there drinking and eventually using drugs for 30 years before I woke up. Only 40% of my liver functions and I couldn't drink now if I wanted to. Well I guess I could but then I'd die. And beinging treated for alcoholic liver disease is no fun. Anyway there's some good support on the addiction message board or you can contact me directly and I will direct you to some support sites in my network. For some reason I can't post them here. So if you are interested just reach out. My hand is extended.
Mischif
Posted by: mischif12
Posted on: 2005-02-22 11:09:02
You sound like a good person with a good head on her sholders. Going through a family illness is very scarey and tough. You don't say how old you are but if you are drinking to "black-out" you most likely have a problem. I have been where you are and am now sober. But I had to stay out there drinking and eventually using drugs for 30 years before I woke up. Only 40% of my liver functions and I couldn't drink now if I wanted to. Well I guess I could but then I'd die. And beinging treated for alcoholic liver disease is no fun. Anyway there's some good support on the addiction message board or you can contact me directly and I will direct you to some support sites in my network. For some reason I can't post them here. So if you are interested just reach out. My hand is extended.
Mischif
To mischif12
Posted by: lindalou34
Posted on: 2005-02-22 12:27:52
I am 34 years old and not drinking to black out, I just have before.(blacked out)
I start out drinking maybe a glass and that glass ends up 2 glasses. Where my problem is, if i go to the liquer store and bring anything home. Thats what happend saturday night. I was getting something for a friend and got me a bottle of Goldslauger and drunk the whole bottle. I had already had 2 glasses of wine during dinner.
Posted by: lindalou34
Posted on: 2005-02-22 12:27:52
I am 34 years old and not drinking to black out, I just have before.(blacked out)
I start out drinking maybe a glass and that glass ends up 2 glasses. Where my problem is, if i go to the liquer store and bring anything home. Thats what happend saturday night. I was getting something for a friend and got me a bottle of Goldslauger and drunk the whole bottle. I had already had 2 glasses of wine during dinner.
weening
Posted by: nobodyuser
Posted on: 2005-02-28 10:14:58
Withdrawl is a bitch. I did go thru it twice, and everyone thought it was a bad flu or food poisoning. Thats how good I've hidden this addiction.
Been trying really hard this past week to ween myself off. This is what I take per day. 64 pills of acetemenophine w/ 8mg of codiene. 30 dimenhydrinate tabs at 50mg. i've dropped it down to 40/20. I don't drink alcohol (anymore), it doesn't compare to the sensation of the pills and it impedes my performance and creativity.
For about 10 yrs I also used codiene cough syrup that was bought over the counter. A 350 ml bottle would last 2 days and the pill popping was still being taken. I stopped taking it in '96 when the formula was changed making the syrup very bitter and I puked my guts out when I was taking my 200ml dose. The pill usage increased to compensate for the lack of cough syrup.
I'm getting a litle freaked about whats gonna be coming up for the next few weeks in withdrawl. I really hope this time will be the last.
Finding out more about the damage I've done to my body the last 20 yrs. i feel the tightning in my heart, I've taken notice of the blood in my feces, the sharp pains in my head, high blood pressure, I know my brain has taken a little more damage the last few yrs as I'm having problems recalling some events and not remembering easy things I do in relation to my work. I don't even want to think of the damage that my liver and kidneys are taking. I understand now why sometimes I have a few small accidents of uncontrolled urination.
Stuff like that is really scary but I can't blame anyone but myself. Nobody held a gun to my head in my bad choice of becoming addicted. I just find it hard to seek help thinking no one will understand. I dont know what the laws are concerning being a junkie but i don't want to lose what I have now. Just want to lose the dependence of drugs.
Posted by: nobodyuser
Posted on: 2005-02-28 10:14:58
Withdrawl is a bitch. I did go thru it twice, and everyone thought it was a bad flu or food poisoning. Thats how good I've hidden this addiction.
Been trying really hard this past week to ween myself off. This is what I take per day. 64 pills of acetemenophine w/ 8mg of codiene. 30 dimenhydrinate tabs at 50mg. i've dropped it down to 40/20. I don't drink alcohol (anymore), it doesn't compare to the sensation of the pills and it impedes my performance and creativity.
For about 10 yrs I also used codiene cough syrup that was bought over the counter. A 350 ml bottle would last 2 days and the pill popping was still being taken. I stopped taking it in '96 when the formula was changed making the syrup very bitter and I puked my guts out when I was taking my 200ml dose. The pill usage increased to compensate for the lack of cough syrup.
I'm getting a litle freaked about whats gonna be coming up for the next few weeks in withdrawl. I really hope this time will be the last.
Finding out more about the damage I've done to my body the last 20 yrs. i feel the tightning in my heart, I've taken notice of the blood in my feces, the sharp pains in my head, high blood pressure, I know my brain has taken a little more damage the last few yrs as I'm having problems recalling some events and not remembering easy things I do in relation to my work. I don't even want to think of the damage that my liver and kidneys are taking. I understand now why sometimes I have a few small accidents of uncontrolled urination.
Stuff like that is really scary but I can't blame anyone but myself. Nobody held a gun to my head in my bad choice of becoming addicted. I just find it hard to seek help thinking no one will understand. I dont know what the laws are concerning being a junkie but i don't want to lose what I have now. Just want to lose the dependence of drugs.
I understand where your at
Posted by: mischif12
Posted on: 2005-02-28 16:09:38
Withdrawal is a the worst. I did it at home with a friend who is a nurse and another friend who is a physician. You say you fear that there is no one out there who understands you. Have you thought about AA or NA. I used to feel the same way as you and when I finally got to a 12-step program I felt that I was home for the first time in my life. As bad as withdrawal is getting your body clean is the easy part. The hard part is recovery which is a process that takes months or years ( a lifetine actually).You can contact me directly if you want to talk to someone whose been there done that.
Mischif
Posted by: mischif12
Posted on: 2005-02-28 16:09:38
Withdrawal is a the worst. I did it at home with a friend who is a nurse and another friend who is a physician. You say you fear that there is no one out there who understands you. Have you thought about AA or NA. I used to feel the same way as you and when I finally got to a 12-step program I felt that I was home for the first time in my life. As bad as withdrawal is getting your body clean is the easy part. The hard part is recovery which is a process that takes months or years ( a lifetine actually).You can contact me directly if you want to talk to someone whose been there done that.
Mischif
My prayers are with you
Posted by: sorensen00
Posted on: 2005-05-05 12:27:15
Well My prayers and thoughts are with you and I hope that all goes well and that you get the help you need...And that you can stop this bad habit and start over again fresh..
~Ashley~
Posted by: sorensen00
Posted on: 2005-05-05 12:27:15
Well My prayers and thoughts are with you and I hope that all goes well and that you get the help you need...And that you can stop this bad habit and start over again fresh..
~Ashley~
You still have a chance.
Posted by: daltexas
Posted on: 2005-02-22 22:33:43
I understand your pain and how you feel day to day. When you have to always continue to feed your addiction, behind everyones back. I also did the same thing for about 10 yrs. But with a diffrent drug (coc,pills,alc,) And I thought that I would never stop doing the drugs. I started in the mornings, and throughout the day continued my fix. I really didn't care to stop, and didn't think anyone else cared either. Until the day I knew I was going to die. If I keep doing the drugs. I't was a wake up call. You've already made the first step in admitting that you have a problem with the drug. Now you have to face your problem and get some help. What I did is check my self into a drug rehab. And faced my problem one on one. Which is something I've never done my whole life. I feel better than ever, but still have day to day problems. I now have 5yrs sober without any drugs are alcohol.I'm 26yrs old and love my life I wish the same for you.
Posted by: daltexas
Posted on: 2005-02-22 22:33:43
I understand your pain and how you feel day to day. When you have to always continue to feed your addiction, behind everyones back. I also did the same thing for about 10 yrs. But with a diffrent drug (coc,pills,alc,) And I thought that I would never stop doing the drugs. I started in the mornings, and throughout the day continued my fix. I really didn't care to stop, and didn't think anyone else cared either. Until the day I knew I was going to die. If I keep doing the drugs. I't was a wake up call. You've already made the first step in admitting that you have a problem with the drug. Now you have to face your problem and get some help. What I did is check my self into a drug rehab. And faced my problem one on one. Which is something I've never done my whole life. I feel better than ever, but still have day to day problems. I now have 5yrs sober without any drugs are alcohol.I'm 26yrs old and love my life I wish the same for you.
BINGE DRINKING is not new, and is an epidemic
Posted by: carriegyrl
Posted on: 2005-02-24 10:52:58
I totally agree with you that binge drinking is nothing new among teens. Even "good" kids have that powerful need to belong, to be among the "popular" crowd. And some fully understand that large amounts of alcohol can harm them, but take the risk anyway to avoid being made fun of for being "square" or being called a "wimp" or the deadly word "nerd." It is true that a lot of that has to do with poor self esteem. Because if you love and care enough about yourself and your body and your brain, you will not take the risk of poisoning it, JUST to be part of the "cool" crowd.
I come from an alcholic family, and I saw how drinking can destroy lives. It certainly destroyed my family structure. My parents, similar to those on the show, lived in denial about my older brother's alcholism. They simply ignored it. I can't even imagine doing that with my son! I would NEVER allow it! I would spot it immediately and take away every privelage my son has ever known, if that is what it takes. I could never understand my parent's denial. My brother became a very bad alcoholic as an adult. He wound up losing his wife, barely seeing his children anymore, losing his driver's license, and trying to commit suicide twice. All because my parents chose to simply ignore every obvious sign he was drinking and doing assorted drugs.
I will admit to wanting to "belong" and "be cool" when I was a teen. I will admit to drinking "too much" as a teen - maybe 4 drinks, twice. The first time I was raped in a parking lot. The second time I just felt sick the next day. I realized that nothing was worth that. And being cool was not important anymore! I cared about mySELF way too much for that. I knew that I did not need THAT to have friends and have fun and have a good life. I was worth far better.
I let my 9-yr. old son watch this Dr. Phil episode. I want him to learn at an early age what binge drinking can DO to a person. I have told him about my alcholic family members and even how my exhusband (not his father) was an alcholoic binge drinker and what happened to him because of it. I told my son that is why I divorced that man. I explained to him about losing your license, crashing a car, killing yourself or others, and throwing up, destroying brain cells, and being thrown off of school sports teams. I explained about peer pressure and how OTHER kids will try to make you drink and laugh at you if you choose not to. I explained to him that you just have to be strong enough to just ignore that and walk away from it, no matter how much they laugh at you.
It's important to do this an an EARLY age, before high school. Over and over, I will warn my son about the dangers of drinking. In a year or two I will tell him the actual details of REAL LIFE experiences about what happened to my father, my brother, my grandmother and my ex-husband, all because of alcholism.
I've also told him how hurt and how upset & worried I would be if ANYTHING bad happened to him because of drinking or drugs. I told him it's because I love him more than anything in the entire world; he is my whole world, and the very best thing I've ever done in my life is to have HIM. And harming himself, his wonderful healthy, strong body or his wonderful, smart brain with alchohol or drugs would destroy my whole world and I'd be sad forever.
He said "I'd NEVER do that Mom!"
Let's hope he means it.
Posted by: carriegyrl
Posted on: 2005-02-24 10:52:58
I totally agree with you that binge drinking is nothing new among teens. Even "good" kids have that powerful need to belong, to be among the "popular" crowd. And some fully understand that large amounts of alcohol can harm them, but take the risk anyway to avoid being made fun of for being "square" or being called a "wimp" or the deadly word "nerd." It is true that a lot of that has to do with poor self esteem. Because if you love and care enough about yourself and your body and your brain, you will not take the risk of poisoning it, JUST to be part of the "cool" crowd.
I come from an alcholic family, and I saw how drinking can destroy lives. It certainly destroyed my family structure. My parents, similar to those on the show, lived in denial about my older brother's alcholism. They simply ignored it. I can't even imagine doing that with my son! I would NEVER allow it! I would spot it immediately and take away every privelage my son has ever known, if that is what it takes. I could never understand my parent's denial. My brother became a very bad alcoholic as an adult. He wound up losing his wife, barely seeing his children anymore, losing his driver's license, and trying to commit suicide twice. All because my parents chose to simply ignore every obvious sign he was drinking and doing assorted drugs.
I will admit to wanting to "belong" and "be cool" when I was a teen. I will admit to drinking "too much" as a teen - maybe 4 drinks, twice. The first time I was raped in a parking lot. The second time I just felt sick the next day. I realized that nothing was worth that. And being cool was not important anymore! I cared about mySELF way too much for that. I knew that I did not need THAT to have friends and have fun and have a good life. I was worth far better.
I let my 9-yr. old son watch this Dr. Phil episode. I want him to learn at an early age what binge drinking can DO to a person. I have told him about my alcholic family members and even how my exhusband (not his father) was an alcholoic binge drinker and what happened to him because of it. I told my son that is why I divorced that man. I explained to him about losing your license, crashing a car, killing yourself or others, and throwing up, destroying brain cells, and being thrown off of school sports teams. I explained about peer pressure and how OTHER kids will try to make you drink and laugh at you if you choose not to. I explained to him that you just have to be strong enough to just ignore that and walk away from it, no matter how much they laugh at you.
It's important to do this an an EARLY age, before high school. Over and over, I will warn my son about the dangers of drinking. In a year or two I will tell him the actual details of REAL LIFE experiences about what happened to my father, my brother, my grandmother and my ex-husband, all because of alcholism.
I've also told him how hurt and how upset & worried I would be if ANYTHING bad happened to him because of drinking or drugs. I told him it's because I love him more than anything in the entire world; he is my whole world, and the very best thing I've ever done in my life is to have HIM. And harming himself, his wonderful healthy, strong body or his wonderful, smart brain with alchohol or drugs would destroy my whole world and I'd be sad forever.
He said "I'd NEVER do that Mom!"
Let's hope he means it.
Scary Trends
Posted by: cblotnicky
Posted on: 2005-02-19 20:14:44
I am a teen, about to turn 16, and I've always felt the need to defend teens. We aren't ALL bad, and the sad fact is, the teens who don't go out there and do bad things *Like Binge drinking or robo-dosing* never get any sort of media attention. I was reading the paper this morning and it mentioned about these three 'teens' who beat an old woman half way to death-- this is the image teenagers get in the media these days. I don't know what this makes you think about teens, but I know it doesn't exactly give us a good image. People are always stereotyping us all, thinking that because one of us does something wrong, all of us will. This is like me saying that all men will go out and kidnap and rape little kids, because I saw one on the news who did this. Isn't it true that more adults (Over 18) do illegal acts than teens? I'm not saying we're perfect, and I know there are some teens who deserve the name that we've been given.
Here's my story, I've never had alcohol in a none family setting, and I've never had more than a glass of wine. I don't smoke, do any sort of drugs, or fight. I'm a straight A student, and I don't go out partying every weekend. I realize I'm probably better behaved than most teens, but how come the many many teens like me don't get showcased like the really messed up ones?
Dr. Phil, I'd like to see you do a show based around the teens who are on a good path. The ones of us who have a good future coming to us, and who do the right thing. I know you're a psychologist, and you're supposed to help people with problems, but just showcasing these teens with such problems really gives us all a bad name. Coming from a place with a lot of people who are... over the hill... who think we're all evil, I've been dealing with the discrimination since I turned 13, and I'd like people to know that I, and many other teens don't do things like what the media shows.
Anyways, sorry for the rant, I needed a little vent.
Posted by: cblotnicky
Posted on: 2005-02-19 20:14:44
I am a teen, about to turn 16, and I've always felt the need to defend teens. We aren't ALL bad, and the sad fact is, the teens who don't go out there and do bad things *Like Binge drinking or robo-dosing* never get any sort of media attention. I was reading the paper this morning and it mentioned about these three 'teens' who beat an old woman half way to death-- this is the image teenagers get in the media these days. I don't know what this makes you think about teens, but I know it doesn't exactly give us a good image. People are always stereotyping us all, thinking that because one of us does something wrong, all of us will. This is like me saying that all men will go out and kidnap and rape little kids, because I saw one on the news who did this. Isn't it true that more adults (Over 18) do illegal acts than teens? I'm not saying we're perfect, and I know there are some teens who deserve the name that we've been given.
Here's my story, I've never had alcohol in a none family setting, and I've never had more than a glass of wine. I don't smoke, do any sort of drugs, or fight. I'm a straight A student, and I don't go out partying every weekend. I realize I'm probably better behaved than most teens, but how come the many many teens like me don't get showcased like the really messed up ones?
Dr. Phil, I'd like to see you do a show based around the teens who are on a good path. The ones of us who have a good future coming to us, and who do the right thing. I know you're a psychologist, and you're supposed to help people with problems, but just showcasing these teens with such problems really gives us all a bad name. Coming from a place with a lot of people who are... over the hill... who think we're all evil, I've been dealing with the discrimination since I turned 13, and I'd like people to know that I, and many other teens don't do things like what the media shows.
Anyways, sorry for the rant, I needed a little vent.
YOUR LIFE
Posted by: heartached
Posted on: 2005-02-20 09:38:00
this is to all the binge-drinking and parents of teens who use substances, i was an alcoholic before i had my kids and i tell u it never had good results nor did it help anything else, letme share what i do know i had a brother who was 25 and he drank and took drugs it ripped my family apart and it hurt me to see him use the stuff, my brother is now dead he died at 25 years old after someone spiked his pop while helping them move, do u parents of these teens realise the high price of drugs and alcohol I DO know i do and when you put your life in the hands of drugs and alcohol you are also putting your families lives there as well, my family paid a high price and that was my brother what are you parents of these teens willing to lose and what re you teens willing to lose aside from your family ur price is ur soul in the end.
PARENTS IF U SPEND MORE TIME TALKING WITH YOUR TEENS AND GET MORE INVOLVED YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A DEEPER WELL THERE FOR THESE TEENS AND I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE WHEN I SAY THERE IS A BIGGER PROBLEM AT THE BOTTOM OF THEIR SOUL AND HEARTS TRY LESS ARGUING AND MORE COMPASSION AND WHEN I SAY THAT I MEAN DO NOT REJECT THEM OR PUSH THEM AWAY BUT MERELY WORK THROUGH THEIR TROUBLES WITH THEM YOU WILL BE GLAD U DID.REMEMBER THIS WHEN MY BROTHER DIES HE LEFT BEHIND 2 KIDS OF HIS OWN AND 2 NEPHEWS AND 3 NEICES AND MY MOTHER AND FATHER LOST THEIR ONLY SON AND I LOST MORE THEN MY ONLY BROTHER I LOST MY BEST FRIEND AS WELL.MY SON WILL NEVER GET TO KNOW HIS UNCLE NOW AND IF THINK LIFE IS BAD TRUST ME IT GETS NO BETTER WITH ALCOHOL OR DRUGS IT ONLY ADDS MORE PAIN.
Posted by: heartached
Posted on: 2005-02-20 09:38:00
this is to all the binge-drinking and parents of teens who use substances, i was an alcoholic before i had my kids and i tell u it never had good results nor did it help anything else, letme share what i do know i had a brother who was 25 and he drank and took drugs it ripped my family apart and it hurt me to see him use the stuff, my brother is now dead he died at 25 years old after someone spiked his pop while helping them move, do u parents of these teens realise the high price of drugs and alcohol I DO know i do and when you put your life in the hands of drugs and alcohol you are also putting your families lives there as well, my family paid a high price and that was my brother what are you parents of these teens willing to lose and what re you teens willing to lose aside from your family ur price is ur soul in the end.
PARENTS IF U SPEND MORE TIME TALKING WITH YOUR TEENS AND GET MORE INVOLVED YOU WILL SEE THERE IS A DEEPER WELL THERE FOR THESE TEENS AND I SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE WHEN I SAY THERE IS A BIGGER PROBLEM AT THE BOTTOM OF THEIR SOUL AND HEARTS TRY LESS ARGUING AND MORE COMPASSION AND WHEN I SAY THAT I MEAN DO NOT REJECT THEM OR PUSH THEM AWAY BUT MERELY WORK THROUGH THEIR TROUBLES WITH THEM YOU WILL BE GLAD U DID.REMEMBER THIS WHEN MY BROTHER DIES HE LEFT BEHIND 2 KIDS OF HIS OWN AND 2 NEPHEWS AND 3 NEICES AND MY MOTHER AND FATHER LOST THEIR ONLY SON AND I LOST MORE THEN MY ONLY BROTHER I LOST MY BEST FRIEND AS WELL.MY SON WILL NEVER GET TO KNOW HIS UNCLE NOW AND IF THINK LIFE IS BAD TRUST ME IT GETS NO BETTER WITH ALCOHOL OR DRUGS IT ONLY ADDS MORE PAIN.
Not all teens are bad
Posted by: mrselmo253
Posted on: 2005-02-20 18:01:20
Oh hun.. *huggss* to you and I'm glad to see you have not fallen to the problems of SOME of todays youth. Kudos to you and may you keep persevering!
I would also love to see more shows done on kids who have NOT gone awry, but you know most of these shows depend on ratings and troubled teens seem to get more ratings than kids who are doing just fine. I'd love to see less of the "Who's my baby's daddy" and more of the "I'm doing a-ok" teens on TV, but I guess it's the old "I may have it bad, but I'm better off than this person" thing. Its all a game of ratings hun. And until the ratings slide on such shows, they will continue to permeate the airwaves. All we can do is know that we're not like them and then keep striving for our goals in life WITHOUT messing them up with drugs, alcohol, unprotected sex, and the other problems of our society.
Besides, teens - like you - who are leading a normal, happy, and well-adjusted life aren't really subject to a show like Dr Phil because he'd have no advice to give them other than "Keep on truckin!" This is not to say teens with their heads on straight don't have their fair share of problems. Lord knows peer pressure is a killer, even if its only about the pressure to fit in by wearing Abercrombie and not K-Mart. But what advice could he give you about getting your life back on track when it never went off the tracks in the first place?
You got a good head on your shoulders and don't let anyone get you down, especially the teens they show on TV.
Posted by: mrselmo253
Posted on: 2005-02-20 18:01:20
Oh hun.. *huggss* to you and I'm glad to see you have not fallen to the problems of SOME of todays youth. Kudos to you and may you keep persevering!
I would also love to see more shows done on kids who have NOT gone awry, but you know most of these shows depend on ratings and troubled teens seem to get more ratings than kids who are doing just fine. I'd love to see less of the "Who's my baby's daddy" and more of the "I'm doing a-ok" teens on TV, but I guess it's the old "I may have it bad, but I'm better off than this person" thing. Its all a game of ratings hun. And until the ratings slide on such shows, they will continue to permeate the airwaves. All we can do is know that we're not like them and then keep striving for our goals in life WITHOUT messing them up with drugs, alcohol, unprotected sex, and the other problems of our society.
Besides, teens - like you - who are leading a normal, happy, and well-adjusted life aren't really subject to a show like Dr Phil because he'd have no advice to give them other than "Keep on truckin!" This is not to say teens with their heads on straight don't have their fair share of problems. Lord knows peer pressure is a killer, even if its only about the pressure to fit in by wearing Abercrombie and not K-Mart. But what advice could he give you about getting your life back on track when it never went off the tracks in the first place?
You got a good head on your shoulders and don't let anyone get you down, especially the teens they show on TV.
We here what your saying
Posted by: rnbren
Posted on: 2005-02-21 17:41:39
Thank God for children like you who realize the value of your life and how much you are loved. Stay the way you are. I dont think that you get the seriousness of the problems though. We are trying to help save these young peoples lives, not disciminate against yours. You may be right in your thinking of putting the good kids out there more but please have more compassion. The problem needs to be to stop this before it even gets started which ultimately does come right back around to children like you. Stay strong and keep believing in yourself and stay clean.
Posted by: rnbren
Posted on: 2005-02-21 17:41:39
Thank God for children like you who realize the value of your life and how much you are loved. Stay the way you are. I dont think that you get the seriousness of the problems though. We are trying to help save these young peoples lives, not disciminate against yours. You may be right in your thinking of putting the good kids out there more but please have more compassion. The problem needs to be to stop this before it even gets started which ultimately does come right back around to children like you. Stay strong and keep believing in yourself and stay clean.
No Shows for "Good" People
Posted by: redkate
Posted on: 2005-02-22 10:20:28
Maybe Dr. Phil is not having shows with all good kids because you are not ones that need help? Dr. Phil's main goal is to help those that need it, and obviously you don't. That is a great thing! Congrats on your lifestyle and behavior. Let's focus the problem solving on those that could use it without feeling like you are "left out".
Posted by: redkate
Posted on: 2005-02-22 10:20:28
Maybe Dr. Phil is not having shows with all good kids because you are not ones that need help? Dr. Phil's main goal is to help those that need it, and obviously you don't. That is a great thing! Congrats on your lifestyle and behavior. Let's focus the problem solving on those that could use it without feeling like you are "left out".
Good kids need reg. also
Posted by: lajn86
Posted on: 2005-02-22 11:03:54
Yes why do ALL the bad kids get on. Don't good kids need to be recognized for ALL they do!! Our grade schools in the area have a CAUGHT BEING GOOD program. But it stops once they are in middle & high school. Our 2 boys are involved in many different activites and we are proud of them. Yes we tell them so, but what about others. I thnk Dr. Phil should put on a show for THE GOOD ONES!!!!
Posted by: lajn86
Posted on: 2005-02-22 11:03:54
Yes why do ALL the bad kids get on. Don't good kids need to be recognized for ALL they do!! Our grade schools in the area have a CAUGHT BEING GOOD program. But it stops once they are in middle & high school. Our 2 boys are involved in many different activites and we are proud of them. Yes we tell them so, but what about others. I thnk Dr. Phil should put on a show for THE GOOD ONES!!!!
You Tell 'Em Girl!
Posted by: cancerstic
Posted on: 2005-02-20 18:48:48
cbltnicky, I am on your side and I completely agree. I'm no longer a teen but it still upsets me that the bad ones always get all the attention and make it harder for the rest of you.
You're absolutely right, adults do commit more crimes than teens and teens (in my opinion) are a reflection of the adult population. Adults binge drink, do drugs and no attention is paid to this. It is even WORSE when adult do it because they have children at home that can't rely on their parents while they're getting wasted and co-workers that will have to take on extra work because they're slowing down the pace by coming to work intoxicated or missing work due to a hangover.
YOU'RE NOT EVIL. And those who think you are need to open their minds and open their eyes.
Posted by: cancerstic
Posted on: 2005-02-20 18:48:48
cbltnicky, I am on your side and I completely agree. I'm no longer a teen but it still upsets me that the bad ones always get all the attention and make it harder for the rest of you.
You're absolutely right, adults do commit more crimes than teens and teens (in my opinion) are a reflection of the adult population. Adults binge drink, do drugs and no attention is paid to this. It is even WORSE when adult do it because they have children at home that can't rely on their parents while they're getting wasted and co-workers that will have to take on extra work because they're slowing down the pace by coming to work intoxicated or missing work due to a hangover.
YOU'RE NOT EVIL. And those who think you are need to open their minds and open their eyes.
