Toni says she can’t stop grieving the loss of her son, who began transitioning into a female at age 11. What would you do if your little boy wanted to be a girl? The heated discussion continues.
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Toni's middle child appears in video, but her face is blurred to protect her identity.
“My mom thinks I’m a princess because I have everything, like, I want everything,” she says, touring her pink and purple bedroom. “I have my own TV, an Xbox 360. I have tons of purses. Don’t get me started. My favorite color is olive green, but my second favorite is pink.” She shows her favorite outfits. “This is one of my favorite skirts. I have this shirt. It has no back to it. That’s why I like it. So nice.”
Dr. Phil notices his guest’s demeanor. “Toni, you’re very upset with what these guys are saying,” he says, indicating Glenn and Dr. Nicolosi.
“Mm-hm,” she says, "because they’re the reason I have to worry every day my child walks out the door. They’re the reason I have to wonder what’s going to happen to her, that people don’t accept, people don’t understand."
Toni addresses the two men. "You’re showing something that is wrong. You are wrong,” she says strongly. “Do you have a transgendered child?” she asks Dr. Nicolosi.
“I’m providing a therapy — ” he begins.
“Do you have a transgendered child?” she repeats, louder.
“Does that exclude me from the conversation?” he asks.
“No, but I’m asking you a question. Do you have a transgendered child?”
“How does that make it relevant to the conversation?”
“So, everyone here, everyone on the stage has to have a transgendered child to talk to you?”
Glenn says, “That can’t exclude you from the conversation.”
“Oh, my God, you guys are nuts,” Toni says in frustration.
“I’m responding to what you’re accusing,” Glenn says. “How is it that we are responsible for any harm that your child — that’s a very serious accusation. I care deeply, deeply for children.”
