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"It's Either Me or Your Deadbeat Son" Part 2: Meet Grandma"
A Painful Childhood
Johnna says she hates her mother, Cindy, and refuses to speak to her. She claims that Cindy abandoned her and allowed her to be beaten and molested as a child. “My mother is demonic; she’s crazy,” she says. “I think the woman is a sociopath.”Cindy, who says she’s been married “eight or nine times,” admits that she was a bad mother. She says she raised her two half-sisters and didn’t really have a childhood of her own. “I was sick of kids,” she confesses. “I hated kids. I never wanted to have children.”

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Dr. Phil tells Chase that he needs to be truthful to himself and come up with a plan. “You’re too busy playing the victim,” he says. “You’re just kind of living day to day right now. You’re going to school to get your high school diploma. You’re 23,” he says. “When you’re in high school, and the first digit in your age is not a one, you’re falling behind.”
“I know,” Chase responds, with a tear rolling down his cheek.
“If you’re going to be a firefighter, you need to get yourself in shape,” Dr. Phil adds. “You’re not going to be a video firefighter, right?” he jests. “You surround yourself with people who know you, believe in you, that help you achieve your goals,” he says, pointing out that Johnna is one of those individuals. “And I, by the way, am applying for that position as well.”
“Thank you,” Chase responds.
When asked about his feelings toward Johnna’s relationship with Ed, Chase says, “I think she can just do so much better.”
“You are 23 going on 13 with regard to relationships,” Dr. Phil respectfully reminds Chase. “You need to let them have that relationship.” He continues, “It might not be whom you would pick, but that’s not your decision; and you need to support her in her decision.”
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