Beauty Queen Hits Rock Bottom: Debbie and Brandon

In Denial?
After missing for 18 days, Ann receives word that Jenna is sleeping on a friend’s couch.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span><a target="_self" href="/shows/page/brandon/">Brandon,</a> and Debbie devise an intervention plan, however, Ann takes matters into her own hands.<br><br>Brandon meets up with Ann and learns that she saw Jenna the previous day. “I was able to meet up with Jenna just by chance, actually,” Ann tells him. “She surprised me by telling me that she had been thinking about joining the Air Force,” Ann shares.<br><br>“Do you buy that she really is going to try and be an Air Force pilot?” Brandon asks.<br><br>“I know that she could be a pilot if she wants to,” she replies.<br><br>“You don’t really go from being homeless to being a pilot like that,” Brandon says. “She just said that to make you happy.” He asks her if she’s packing Jenna’s belongings to take to her.<br><br>“I am taking her some clothes, because she’s been wearing some guy’s jeans for the last week,” she says.<br><br>Debbie interrupts the conversation. “At this point, my number one concern is losing [Jenna]. Would you consider, instead of taking her clothes to her, saying, ‘Let’s go by the house and get clothes?’” she asks Ann.<br><br>“Honestly, I don’t want her showing up here looking like she did, because it would embarrass her,” Ann says. <br><br>[AD]“Normally, we wake people up out of bed and do the intervention in their pajamas, with their hair messed up, no makeup,” Brandon tells her.<br><br>“She’s been wearing the same clothing for a week, so I just want her to have a fresh pair of jeans,” Ann says. “She asked me to bring her some clothes.”<br><br>“I think she’s trying to manipulate you right now,” Brandon points out. <br><br>“The least important thing about what we’re doing is what she looks like,” Debbie adds. “We can’t trust anything she says or does because her brain is so sick … She can’t make a rational decision, and if we lose her, she dies.”<br>In studio, Dr. Phil asks Ann for her thoughts.

“I wanted to believe Jenna again,” she says. “I’ve had 19 years of one person, and I’ve had two years of someone else.” She explains that she always believed her daughter during those 19 years because she always proved herself.

Dr. Phil says that even though Ann wanted to help her daughter, she became a problem for Debbie and Brandon. “We came up with a plan, but you wouldn’t follow or listen to our agenda,” Debbie says to Ann.

Ann disagrees.

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Dr. Phil tells Ann she's one of the biggest risk factors to Jenna's sobriety.


Dr. Phil reminds Ann that she believed Jenna when she told her she was going to join the Air Force. “Do you see a problem with that?” he asks her.

“Yes, and I recognized it immediately,” Ann says.

“You didn’t recognize it until we told you,” Debbie interjects, noting that both she and Brandon had to speak with her because she was planning to move forward with another plan and therefore sabotage the plan Debbie and Brandon created.
Dr. Phil introduces Rich Whitman, Director of Origins Recovery Centers, and asks him, “How long has it been since you’ve seen someone sicker than Jenna?”

“It’s been a long, long, long, long time,” he says.

“This is why I’m saying you are the biggest risk factor we have to deal with right now,” Dr. Phil tells Ann, pointing out that she wants so badly to believe her daughter that she believes what she tells her. He notes that she made homemade ice cream and brought it to Jenna at the drug house and let Jenna borrow her car. “I can see right now, if she were to be discharged today and sent back to you, you would enable your daughter to be back on drugs before dark. I need you to see that.”

Dr. Phil continues, noting that Ann spent more than $35,000 for rehab for Jenna, and when the young woman checked herself out, Ann let her come home.

“Was I supposed to leave her walking around Pennsylvania by herself?” Ann asks.

“Damn right,” Dr. Phil says.

Ann says that when Jenna was taking drugs in her home, she kicked her out. “That’s when she ended up at the meth house,” she says. Fighting back tears, she continues, “What I did, she ended up in that place and being hurt, and parents are supposed to protect their children, not supposed to let them be hurt like that.”

“I get that that is your distorted way of seeing this, but this started years before,” Dr. Phil tells her. He lists details about Jenna’s five trips to rehab: The first time, she started outpatient treatment but was still using drugs; the second time, she was kicked out for having sex with other patients; the third time was a three-month program, but after 30 days she started using non-detectable drugs; the fourth time she was kicked out for cutting and fraternizing with males; and the fifth time, she checked herself out after 30 days and got caught doing heroin in rehab. She then went to sober living houses and continued to defy the rules and use drugs. “It’s because you didn’t take the position [previous times], not because you finally did.”

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Dr. Phil takes Ann to task for being uncooperative in planning the intervention to save her daughter's life.