"I like bigger women. I like bellies, big breasts, thighs, big butts. Stretch marks are very sexy to me," says Phillip. "My brother
"I think that they stink. They look nasty to me. They have a lot of flabby stuff on their arms. They more like wobble than walk," says Paul, Phillip's twin brother. "Him dating fat girls embarrasses me, my family, my family name."
Phillip says he doesn't like bringing his dates home, because his brother always makes smart comments to them. "He tells them that they should go to a buffet," he says. "He will call my big girls Free Willy [and] Miss Piggy." Not only does his brother give him a hard time, but so do his schoolmates.
Phillip's interest in larger women began when he was a teenager. "We thought it was maybe just one big lady. As he's gotten older, the girls have gotten bigger," Paul explains. "When I see my brot
"BBW is big, beautiful women. The perfect size woman to me would be 5 feet 5 inches, 350 pounds, size 28," says Phillip. "The bigger she is, the sexier she is."
"My brother would actually have to stop dating big women for us to have a normal relationship," Paul says. "I don't want other people to say, â€˜Hey, look at his fat sister-in-law.' I am worried that his kids will come out fat."
Phillip acknowledges that his brother probably won't attend his wedding if he marries a bigger woman. "I need my brother to accept that I like what I like. I'm not going to change. If not, we're going to have to go our separate ways," he says.
"You seem really adamant about this," Dr. Phil says to Paul. "You realize that's his right and his choice, correct?"
Paul says that he understands, but, "I think it would be better if he dated smaller women. It would look better to everyone."
"No, just to you," Phillip says. "He wants the American dream, and I don't. I don't want a life-size Barbie."
"You don't want to walk in the mall with a fat lady. It's not going to be nice," Paul says.
Dr. Phil repeats statements Paul has made. "You'll ask a plus-size woman, â€˜How does it feel to be six people in one body? You're fat, sloppy, nasty and stinky,'" he says. "Why would you say that to anybody?"
"Why not?" Paul says.
"Because it is rude, and it is insensitive, and it is unkind," Dr. Phil explains.
"It's also the truth," Paul maintains.
"That is just a screaming prejudice," Dr. Phil says. Turning to Phillip, he says, "You're not a lot better, you're just not as rude about it, because you will judge a woman because she is small."
Dr. Phil tells Paul that he has an older sister who is 100 pounds overweight. "She is just an amazing, intelligent, articulate, hard-working individual," he shares. "But you would judge her on her face just by seeing her, just because she was overweight."
"Yeah, I probably would," he admits.
Dr. Phil explains that he wants to address two issues with the brothers. One is that they are judging people based on their size. "That's very shallow, superficial and unkind," he says. "The second issue I'm dealing with is that you are
"If I say it, they might lose weight," Paul replies.
"So, you're really doing this to help people," Dr. Phil says, sarcastically. "Can you respect his right to have a different point of view?"
"I can respect it, but they're still fat. It's not going to change anything," Paul says, noting that if he is out in public with Phillip and an overweight girl, people always make comments about the overweight person.
"He wants me to marry somebody he wants to marry," Phillip says.
"A nice picture-perfect family," Paul says.
"The light bulb is hopefully going to come over your head at some point," Dr. Phil tells Paul. He turns his attention to Phillip. "You need to erect a boundary here," he says. "He does not have the right to judge you. He doesn't have the right to judge your choices, and he doesn't have the right to judge the women that you choose to be with. And if he violates that boundary, then you're just simply going to have to take him out of that part of your life."
Dr. Phil addresses Paul. "Let me just go on record here saying in all candor, you're just wrong," he says. "I would hope that you would at least try to be kind about it, and keep your thoughts to yourself. They're entitled to at least treatment with dignity and respect and not being called names."