Could You Be an Eyewitness?: Dr. Phil, Loretta, Dean

A Step Toward Healing
See more of Dr. Phil's conversation with Loretta.

 

"They have his DNA. You get that, right? If they found someone in the system that it did match, how would you feel then?" Dr. Phil asks Loretta.

"If they found somebody, I would feel excited. But it goes back to saying that I did something wrong," she says.

Dr. Phil assures Loretta that she didn't do anything wrong. "You told the truth as you know it and see it every step of the way. You did what you believed to be true at the time, and still believe to be true, I can clearly see," he says.

"I just go back to thinking I did something wrong," she says tearfully.

"What did you do wrong?"

"Telling the truth. Look where it got me. Thinking I did the right thing," she says.


"But Loretta, you did tell the truth, and you did do the right thing," Dr. Phil says. "You were the victim of a horrible, violent crime. The asked you for the best information you had, and you gave it to them. If in fact this is the wrong guy, I'm sorry for him, but all you can do is answer questions truthfully. And if people ask you what you think, you tell them what you think. This man who has been let out of prison seems to have exactly that attitude. His attitude is, ‘I don't believe people are out to get me. People just said what they believed to be true.' Interestingly enough, he's not mad at anybody really. He just says, ‘I'm just glad I'm out, because I didn't do it.'"

[AD]Dr. Phil asks Loretta, "With proper controls and constraints, would it help you to talk to him? Would you be afraid? He's not here by the way. I'm not getting ready to have him walk in the door or anything. But at some point, do you think it would help you to talk to him?"

"No," she says.

"OK. I only want to help you, so if it wouldn't help you, then I wouldn't want you to do it," Dr. Phil assures her.

"I just keep going back to I did wrong," she says.

"You have nothing to be ashamed of; you have nothing to be embarrassed about. If you were wrong, it was an honest mistake. You answered the questions you were asked, and you told the truth as you saw it, and I think it would help for you to talk to him," Dr. Phil says. He explains that Dean doesn't hold any anger toward her; only compassion for what she's been through. "I think it would help you to talk to him. I think it would help you to get closure on this whole situation. Tomorrow, he's going to be here. Will you think about it?"

"I'd have to talk it over with my husband," she says, looking to her husband, Monte, who's sitting nearby.

"Yeah, that's what I mean. Think about it, talk about it, and if you think it's not productive, then don't do it. I think it would be helpful. So, y'all discuss it privately," Dr. Phil says. "I do think it might help you, if for no other reason than to just see him in a different light. It might be a healing thing for you and for him. I don't know, but I would like you to think about it. If you do, I'll be right there with you. You will not be unsafe in any way whatsoever. There's also going to be a DNA expert here tomorrow. If you get home and think of any questions you want to write down, I'd like for you to talk to him. I want to get you all the information we can. I want to make sure we're dealing with the facts and then help you start moving forward with this, because you paid enough. It's time for you to get some closure on this and just have some joy with your husband and family. Isn't it time? I would love for you to go home from here knowing that if you accept that this is the wrong man, that you and he are at peace, there is no shame and no guilt, and I think that's what you would come away from this with. I think he would tell you, ‘You and me are OK.' I think you need to hear that, if you can accept that this is not the man."

"Yes, sir," Loretta says.

[AD]"This is a decision for a husband and wife to make. And I will support whatever decision you make, and then I want to get busy helping you get a grip on this," he says.

 

Dean responds to Loretta's interview with Dr. Phil.

 

Will Loretta have the courage to face Dean? See Part 2!