"It's not that I didn't want her here," Danny says. "I had no idea that she wasn't physically going to be here, that she'd be interviewed at home."
"I wanted her here. I wanted to talk to you two," Dr. Phil says.
"Actually I think she also had a stipulation. I think she said, â€˜I'll come and do the show as long as Dr. Phil doesn't try and get us back together,'" he says.
"I understood that too. She's got her agenda, and I've got mine," Dr. Phil says. "But she wanted to be here, and she was told, apparently by your agent, according to her, that she wasn't to be here today because you â€˜didn't want it to turn into a debate.'"
Danny says the order didn't come from him. "I would cut off my right arm just to have her sit next to me for five minutes," he says.
"I do have things I want to say to both of you," Dr. Phil tells him. He reminds Danny that he considers him a friend. "But I think your lifestyle, as do you, I think, has at times been incredibly self-destructive, and I think you're at a point now where you're doing really different."
Last time, when Dr. Phil asked Gretchen why she was still plugged into her marriage, she said, "Because I love him. I made a commitment in front of God, and my family and my friends, through thick and through thin, and I meant that."
"What's your reaction to what she says?" Dr. Phil asks Danny.
"At the end of the day, no matter what she says, I did in fact cheat on her, although it was now seven years ago," Danny says. "She actually asked for the divorce, I think, on the exact day of my anniversary without a drink, and I think it finally dawned on her whether I drink or not, whether I behave or not, she's never going to forgive me for the sins of the past. I think basically what she said is fairly accurate. I think the marriage had been dead for years " for her. I'm still quite passionate about the young lady. But I think she was dead, couldn't trust me, wants to move on with her life, and God bless her."
"You don't want that to happen though. You want to reconcile this situation," Dr. Phil surmises.
"Have you been tempted to drink or drug again since this has all happened?" Dr. Phil asks.
"I'm tempted to drink and drug right now. Why, what do you got?" Danny jokes.