A Secret Revealed

Pierre reveals a secret to his mother. "Mom, this is difficult to say, and I needed Dr. Phil's help in telling you. I hang out with Amanda every weekend. Now we go to bars, and she comes over and watches movies," he says.


"Three months later, we're best friends,"

Amanda shares.


"Since the divorce, we've been intimate a handful of times," Pierre adds.


Back in his studio, Dr. Phil asks Yolande, "What do you think about that?"

"That's very interesting because he has been asking me for money all the time," she says.

"Is that just your kind of way of saying, ‘Up yours, Mommy Dearest'?" Dr. Phil asks Pierre.

"I got back at her," he says. "I'm grabbing my Dixie cup back."

"I am a victim in this, to have to spend my money on them instead of living the way I want to live," Yolande says.

"I'd be curious to see how many times [Yolande] has said the word money since this show started," Dr. Phil says. "Is everything about money? What about his happiness?"

"It was never a problem. When he had a full-time position, I never slept at his apartment or house," she says.

"Do you think you're over-involved with him?" Dr. Phil asks Yolande.

"No. Not at all," she says. "When he was with Amanda, I was involved because I had to fix the house."

"He's still with Amanda," Dr. Phil reminds her. "He's still seeing her."

"I had assumed that she had a boyfriend or had met other men. She had boyfriends even while she was married to him. I think she was involved with
one person," she says.

"You think she was cheating on him?" Dr. Phil asks.

"Yes," she says, adding that she assumes Amanda has a boyfriend now because she likes and attracts men.

"You're not too high on American women in general," Dr. Phil says.

"I have never said anything negative about American women, and my best friends are American women," Yolande says.

Pierre interjects, "I think she would much rather I date a Swiss girl."

"You're absolutely crazy," Yolande tells her son.

"He's crazy?" Dr. Phil asks Yolande. "His theory is it runs in the family."

Amanda and Yolande have not seen each other since their fight in the middle of the night. Before Amanda joins mother and son onstage, Dr. Phil asks Pierre, "Do you want to sit here with her, or do you want to sit over here with Mom?"

"I'm sorry, Mom. I'm going to sit on this side," Pierre says to his mother.


Amanda joins them and says to Yolande, "You are a piece of work." 


"What are your thoughts at this point?" Dr. Phil asks Amanda.

"I agree," she says. Turning to her ex-mother-in-law, she continues, "It's money, money, money with you constantly, never happiness. I just don't get it."

"Because it has never happened before that I had to pay all the time," Yolande says.

"You're not supporting any finances or anything. I have my own job," Amanda says.

"You were married a year and a half. You cost me $30,000," Yolande says. "You never paid one cent for anything in the house."

Noticing a piece of paper on Yolande's lap, Dr. Phil asks her, "What do you have, a list?


"I want to read one sentence here," she says, explaining that it's from a letter Amanda's mother wrote. "It says, ‘My dear Amanda. I cannot change you. I wish I could,' and here she writes, ‘People love you but can't take the drink and you too.' It is handwritten by her mother."

"Why are you constantly putting me down? You don't even know who I am," Amanda says.

"You attack me constantly. You slandered me on the show last time. You're slandering me now," Yolande says.

"You deserve it," Amanda says.

"You have a problem, and your mother knows it," Yolande counters.

Interrupting Yolande, Amanda says, "You have a problem. You cannot cut the cord. He's 39 years
old, and you treat him like he's 8. You choose his friends, whom he hangs out with, what he does."

"I don't know his friends," Yolande says.

The women argue.

"Mom, you need to calm down," Pierre says.

Dr. Phil looks at the letter and asks Yolande, "How did you actually come to have a Xerox copy of a private letter from her mother to her?"


"When she left the house, and there was all the junk on the floor," she says.

"Oh, my gosh. Are you serious? That's crazy," Amanda says. "What did you snoop … If it's mine, what are you doing looking at it?"

"I was cleaning out the room," Yolande says.

"It's my stuff," Amanda says.

"It's my house," Yolande retorts.


"I'm so glad I'm done with this," Amanda says.

"The best thing that probably came of the last show is that we got a divorce to make it easier on Amanda," Pierre says. "Can you imagine this while we were married?"

"What I can't imagine is that you don't have the guts to stand up for your wife," Dr. Phil says.

"I totally stood up for my wife," Pierre says.

"No. That's the problem here," Dr. Phil says. "The problem is complex, but the solution is simple."

Pierre is still living in his mother's house, driving her car and spending her money, and Amanda has moved on.

Amanda clarifies that she and Pierre are not intimate at this point. That ended shortly after the divorce. "I find it really pathetic that this is going to continue. It's, like, a sick-and-twisted relationship between the two of them," she says.


"I need to get a job again. I have to get back into a career," Pierre says.

"It's like they're in a relationship," Amanda says. "I want him to find a nice girl for himself, but I don't think he ever will because he needs to detach. I still

care about him, but I want him to be able to move on." Turning to Pierre, she concludes, "and I don't think you ever will."

"The problem is I need to be financially independent, so I can cut away from her, and I was, up until that business three years ago," Pierre says.

Dr. Phil asks Yolande, "Do you think that you are in a healthy relationship with your son?"

"I will mention money again. That's the problem," she says. Turning to her son, she continues, "I have never discussed what kind of women you should date. I have never been involved with anything like that."

"Well, you certainly discussed who he shouldn't be married to," Dr. Phil says.


"Just this one person," she says.

"Do you admit that you're glad [Amanda's] gone?" Dr. Phil asks Yolande.

"I wish she had followed your offer of treatment. I was hoping that this would change the situation completely," she says.

"You're out of my life, and that's all I needed," Amanda interjects.

Dr. Phil presses Yolande to answer his question. "You're glad she's gone, right?"

"It would be fine if I was not involved financially," she says.

Dr. Phil asks Pierre, "She's glad she's gone, right?"

"I think she's happy," he says.

"Only because of the finances," Yolande says. "I'm sorry to insist on that." 

Dr. Phil asks Pierre, "Do you get that your mother's perception is that if you weren't financially dependent on her, she would butt out of your life?"

"Yeah," he replies.

"I think you have lost a delightful young woman here," Dr. Phil tells Pierre. To Amanda, he says, "You've moved on, and God bless you for it. I would keep putting one foot in front of the other. I would just keep heading on down the road, because if I were you, happiness would be these folks in my rearview mirror. They don't have a plan here for life."

Dr. Phil faces Pierre and tells him, "You have to get on your own two feet and cut the cord here with your mother. It takes two to tango, and her perception is you're in her house, and you're using her car." He reminds Pierre that he gave him similar advice during his first appearance, but Pierre admitted he didn't want to downscale his living arrangement and drive a less-expensive car. "You're 40, able-bodied and intelligent. Get off your dead ass and get a job!" he says.

Dr. Phil mentions that his friend, Tony Beshara, is one of the top headhunters in America and has placed over 7,000 people in top-level career jobs. "This guy is top, top notch. He's even written a book about this called Job Search Solutions," he says. "He has agreed to meet with you beginning on the phone today."

Pierre agrees to speak with him. "That's what I want to do," he says. "It's not that I'm lazy … It's that I couldn't get back into the teaching. I had to start all over, because I left teaching for two years."

"When he gets you a job, when he helps you find a position, will you park that car in the driveway of that house and put a note on the dash that says, ‘Mom, thank you for all that you've done for me. It's time for me to move on'?"

"Absolutely," Pierre says. "That's what I want."

Yolande speaks up and says, "The only reason I agreed to come is because I was hoping you would help my son with career counseling or finding a job," she says. "I appreciate this offer."