DP Family Returns: Erin's Outrage: Erin and Alex

"This is Your Child. Stop Protecting Him!"

After Tony's polygraph results showed deception, he agreed to take a second test. On the day of the exam, he said he was ill. The Dr. Phil show then arranged for him to take the exam a third time.


"At Dr. Phil's request, I'm back today to polygraph Tony again about a more specific issue than last time," explains former FBI agent and polygraph examiner Jack Trimarco. "He has adamantly, however, denied any bruises that were placed on Leilah's neck. Those bruises we have photos of, and that's going to be the issue today."


[AD]Dr. Phil coordinating producer, Ed, has a conversation with Jack before the exam. "I just went to greet Tony. I asked him how he was doing, and he said he's kind of been experiencing flu-like symptoms for the last two weeks. He said, 'I'm kind of used to the flu.' I said, 'Are you up for taking the test?' He goes, 'Yeah, that's all we're doing today, right?' I said, 'Yep, that's pretty much all we're doing.' I said, 'Are you experiencing any pain, sharp pain in your body?' He said, 'No.' I said, 'What do you feel like?' He said, 'It's just like something in my stomach,'" he reports.  


"He may be willing, but there is a chance that we're not going to be able to do it. He's got to be somewhat normal," Jack says.


Jack meets with Tony. "You're looking better than the last time I saw you when you were on the couch. Has that blown over?" he asks the young man.


"Nope. I've still got it," he replies.


"And what did the doctor say it was?" Jack inquires.


"Kidney stones," Tony says. 


"One of my responsibilities to you is to make sure that you are mentally and physically well enough to take this polygraph test," Jack explains. "Physically, you've been in some distress in the last couple of weeks, and that gives me pause. So, without you saying, 'Hey, I'm not in any pain or discomfort,' we wouldn't do this test. So that's going to be up to you."


"I'm doing this," Tony says.


Jack tells Tony to let him know if he begins to experience pain.  


[AD]After the test begins, Jack leaves the room and explains, "We're about 15 minutes into the testing process. Tony has advised me that he's suffering from flu symptoms and that on a scale of one to 10, with 10 being excruciating pain, he's about a five, so we're going to have to wait another day until he's recovered from the flu."


Tony shares with Ed, "I just feel like I'm going to puke. I don't feel good. I'm queasy. My stomach's queasy."


"Now he knows that this is going to be about the bruises that were on Leilah's neck, as depicted in the photos. Once he was advised of that, 20 minutes ago, that's when he really began to decline," Jack explains.

Jack Trimarco intended to give Tony a fourth polygraph before the show, but Alexandra and Tony had a fight.


In studio, Dr. Phil asks Alexandra, "What do you all think about this?"


"I don't really know what to say. I'm not going to make excuses for anybody," she says. "I don't really know what to think."


Dr. Phil asks Erin for her thoughts. 


"I think that I would probably speak for most of your viewers in saying that it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and somebody is avoiding being called out, and so now they feel sick or they have an excuse," she says. "I think it's quite obvious." 

"With Leilah being the number one priority for both of you, as those charged with her protection and nurturance, does this hit your radar screen as a threat?" Dr. Phil asks.


"A little, yeah," Alex says.


After Alex and Tony's argument, Tony grew upset. Maggie, a Dr. Phil staff member asks Tony if he wants to retake the exam.


"I want to go," Tony says.


Maggie fills Ed in. "Tony hasn't put his shirt on. He's not dressed, and it appears as though they were fighting. He looks like he's crying. I asked him if he wasn't feeling well, and he didn't say anything. He said that he's angry and that he wants to go home, and he said, 'I'm so tired of her.' So, I think he and Alex are fighting," she relays.


[AD]Tony walks outside and Ed asks him what's going on.


"I don't want to do anything for anybody. I want to go home," Tony says. "[Alex] said something to me that she can't take back."


In another room, Alex explains, "I guess he feels like I don't believe him. I just said that I was frustrated because I take up for him all the time." She goes outside to speak with Tony, but he won't talk to her.

"We were hoping to have some answers today on who is responsible for the bruises found on Leilah, but unfortunately, it's certainly not going to come from this polygraph," Dr. Phil says in studio. He reminds Alex that Tony said he understood the questions of the exam before he took it, but after the results came back as deceptive, he said he was confused and didn't understand it. "We've tried not once, not twice but three times to redo it, and there's a problem each time. That concerns me. Does it concern you?" he asks.


"A little, yeah," she replies


"Are you saying a little because you're really not sure what it means, or are you saying a little because you don't want to upset Tony?" Dr. Phil probes.


"We do fight. I'm not afraid to hurt his feelings," she says.


"But are you afraid of upsetting Tony by saying, 'Yes, I'm very concerned,' that this man has essentially confirmed, in my view, four times, that he has hurt your daughter?" Erin asks Alex.


Alex sighs and rolls her eyes. 


"Alexandra, you have got to take a stand. Is it your daughter, or is it Tony?" Erin asks in a raised voice.


[AD]"I've been advised by [my lawyer] Curtis. I'm not going to sit here and do anything that is going to be detrimental to my case," Alex says.


"There's nothing detrimental to be discussed," Erin says. "This is my granddaughter. That makes me really mad. Alexandra, you've already done it with Nathan. Let's get clear with your daughter! Please, let's get clear with your daughter! This is your child. Stop protecting him!"


"I'm protecting myself there, Mom," she says.


"We're beating a dead horse here," Dr. Phil says.