"I think she's just totally turned her mind off and her emotions off, so that she can get through this. The likelihood of this baby being healthy is probably minimal," Erin confides during an interview on video.
At that time, Erin did not know that her and Marty's worst fears were about to come true. Days after being born, Alex and Tony's baby boy was moved to a Level One Pediatric Care Hospital because he was, sadly, born addicted to drugs.
"You knew in your mind and heart something was wrong with this baby," Dr. Phil says. "Even before the baby was born, you knew at your core that something was wrong with that baby."
[AD]"I knew at my core, I knew that I knew that. What do you do?" she asks and explains that, before meeting the baby, she and Marty had a difference of opinion about what to do if the baby was taken away from Alex. "Marty wanted to keep the baby immediately " no discussion " that's it. You know, if Alexandra's rights are terminated, he wants to adopt immediately. And I'm like, â€˜Oh, I don't know about all that.'"
The Department of Children and Families (DCF) held a hearing, and the judge confirmed that the new baby would be staying with Erin and Marty.
"It's a done deal," Erin shares. "Alexandra tested positive for drugs. She is still telling me that she is not doing drugs, so this is a very, very, very sad thing right now. She will have to have a clean drug screen before she can see the baby. And Tony's test was considered positive because it was not warm. If Alexandra and Tony do not work their plan, their parental rights will be terminated completely. At which point, Marty and I will probably look at adopting him."
"People are going to see a real paradox here, because Alex will go to court, stand up and fight to keep her children, but when given total access to them, she won't even show up and check on them. What do you think about that?" he asks Erin.
"At this point, I don't really know what to think, Dr. Phil," she confesses.
[AD]Sadly, it is the baby boy, who is still in the hospital suffering from severe withdrawals, who pays the price. "He has been on morphine for about four weeks," Erin shares. "He had convulsions, he has tremors, he has high-pitched screams, because the withdrawals he's going through hurt his bones, his muscles. Even with the morphine, it's still very painful."
Emotionally, Erin struggles with knowing that her daughter was using methamphetamines. As a mom, she says she's beyond angry about what Alex has done to her baby, and at Tony, for standing by and letting it happen.
Erin and Marty are also faced with the decision of whether to press criminal charges against their daughter for child endangerment. "I don't think any child wants to see their child go to jail," Marty says.
"No, and yet, at the same time, if we did nothing, we could end up losing her anyway. I mean, she is gone right now. She's lost in a fog of drugs. So we've lost our daughter, essentially, now," Erin adds.
While he has mixed emotions, Marty believes that Alex does need help. To help them sort through the legalities of their situation, Dr. Phil introduces the couple to Attorney Lee Locket.
He asks Erin, "What are you going to do? If she were to be arrested, are you going to ride in and save her?"
"No, not at all," she responds, explaining that they've cut all ties with Alex and Tony.
Dr. Phil explains that just minutes before the show, he received a call from Alex. He shares that Alex told him that she and Tony have been kicked out of their house and are now sleeping on the couch at Tony's mom's house. She also claims that she's no longer on drugs, and that they have had clean drug screenings.
[AD]A skeptical Erin questions whether those drug tests were supervised.
"I just hope that Alexandra, one day, will wake up and say, â€˜Wow, I really screwed up here, and you know, my parents really do love me," shares Marty.