Rochelle and her husband, John, first met Dr. Phil nine years ago. "I was
Rochelle says she's improved her behavior since speaking with Dr. Phil. "I don't need to control nearly as much as I did in the beginning," she says. "I thought, I care so much. Everything has to be so right and so perfect, and [Dr. Phil] said, 'You can care differently.' It doesn't mean I don't relapse every 28 days."
"My wife, Rochelle, still has control issues," John reveals. "It starts first thing in the morning." He shares a sampling of what his wife might say to him throughout the day: "I'm thirsty, I'm hungry, I'm tired. I need my phone. I need an aspirin. Can you turn that light on? Can you come in here? John, John, John!" "Her stuff is all priority. My stuff comes way second or third."
"I have a ton of stuff that needs to be done, and he has to do it," Rochelle says. "When John says I control his day, I take huge offense to it. I tell him, 'John, don't make me keep a calendar again. You fish, you boat, you golf, you race, you have time for the things you want to do.'"
"With Rochelle, there is no compromise," John says. "She will let things go here and let things go there, but within a short amount of time, she'll point out how that decision wasn't quite so good."
"I've compromised probably three times, and all three times, I do regret it," Rochelle shares. She let John install hardwood floors. "He didn't listen to me," she says, as she points to the cracks in the floor. She also let her husband design the kitchen. She shows off how the cabinets do not fit their dinner plates. "Not happy, but I accept it," she says.
"I gave up the parent-child relationship, but now I'm his boss, and I need somebody who's going to be able to do everything I need to get done," she says.
Dr. Phil tells John that he recalls him folding clothes while reading the instructions on how to fold them. "You've seriously tried to comply," he says.
"Oh, yes," John agrees.
"How's he doing on compliance?" Dr. Phil asks Rochelle.
"That stuff has gone to the side, because it's now other things that I need him to do for me," she says.
Dr. Phil points out that Rochelle still has her strict guidelines when it comes to John drinking soda. He is only allowed to buy one when he closes a business deal. "What's the deal with that?" he asks Rochelle.
"He doesn't want me to spend any money. So if I can't, he can't," she says.
"You said when I first sat down, 'How's that big house I bought you?'" Dr. Phil says to Rochelle. "You were telling the producers that you made me what I am today, that but for you, I wouldn't be here."
"We had the most popular show, and if I have to tell all of America that I'm the world's most controlling housewife, and you didn't find a bigger fish to fry than me, then it was great to be on the most popular show of your four years on Oprah," she explains.
"If I have you to thank for all of this, thank you," Dr. Phil says sarcastically."How do you feel about your controlling?" Dr. Phil asks Rochelle.
"I gave up the parent-child relationship, but now I'm his boss, and I need somebody who's going to be able to do everything I need to get done," she says.
Dr. Phil tells John that he recalls him folding clothes while reading the instructions on how to fold them. "You've seriously tried to comply," he says.
"Oh, yes," John agrees.
"How's he doing on compliance?" Dr. Phil asks Rochelle.
"That stuff has gone to the side, because it's now other things that I need him to do for me," she says.
Dr. Phil points out that Rochelle still has her strict guidelines when it comes to John drinking soda. He is only allowed to buy one when he closes a business deal. "What's the deal with that?" he asks Rochelle.
"He doesn't want me to spend any money. So if I can't, he can't," she says.
"You said when I first sat down, 'How's that big house I bought you?'" Dr. Phil says to Rochelle. "You were telling the producers that you made me what I am today, that but for you, I wouldn't be here."
"We had the most popular show, and if I have to tell all of America that I'm the world's most controlling housewife, and you didn't find a bigger fish to fry than me, then it was great to be on the most popular show of your four years on Oprah," she explains.
"If I have you to thank for all of this, thank you," Dr. Phil says sarcastically.
Dr. Phil addresses Rochelle. "Controlling women, as they get older, metabolism slows down, energy starts to go down, and your ability
"Not yet," she says.
"Well, you might want to share a little of the control as you get a little older," Dr. Phil says.
Rochelle taped a message to all the women who say John is cute and criticize her controlling ways. "To all the women in America who think my hu
In his studio, Dr. Phil asks Rochelle, "What is that all about?"
"If they think they can make John happier than I can, then have at it," she says. She points out that it's different for the women who criticize her, because they aren't in the marriage with John. "They have no clue." She adds that John gets to boat, fish and golf. "He has the greatest life," she
"And then waits on you," Dr. Phil says.
"He does have to do every single thing that I need done from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed," Rochelle admits. "I make those requests in a way that's not controlling. It's more out of need. It's how I equate love."
"He proves it to you each time he does it," Dr. Phil says. "There you go."