Heart-to-Heart Chat

Dr. Phil sits down for a chat with Melissa and Tim's child.

"Is there anything that's special about you that you want me to know?" Dr. Phil asks.

"That I used to be a boy and now I'm a girl," he says.

"When did you become a girl?"

"When I was in first grade," he says. "I had short hair, and I used to wear boy clothes, like dragons and dinosaurs and all that, and I just wanted to be a girl."

"OK. Transgender. What does that mean?" Dr. Phil asks.

"When a boy or a girl wants to be a girl or a boy," the child answers.

"Where did you learn that word?"

"My mom," he says. "I went in her room, and I was like, ‘Is there a word for the way I feel because I was a boy, and now I'm girl, and she was like, ‘It's called transgender.'"

[AD]"How did you know how a boy was supposed to feel, or a girl was supposed to feel?" Dr. Phil asks. "Because you were at a real young age."

"I just didn't feel like a boy," he says. "Boys feel, like, hyper, and they always want to fight and all that. I just wanted to sit down, and relax and all that."

"Well, that could be just a boy who likes to sit down and relax. I'm just wondering how you decided that what you wanted to be was a girl."

"Because I didn't really like wearing boy clothes anymore," he says.

"When was the very first time that you said to yourself, ‘You know what? I should be a little girl, not a little boy'?" Dr. Phil asks.

"When I was 3 years old," he says. "My dad was doing some yard work, and I went out there and said, ‘I don't want to be a boy. I want to be a girl.' And my dad was like, ‘But God made you a boy.' I was like, ‘God made a mistake.'"

[AD]"You said, when we were talking to you earlier, that you want other kids to know that it's OK to be transgender," Dr. Phil says. "What did you want to say about that?"

"I want to say that it's OK to show yourself, not to be scared," says the child.

"When you get older, do you think you'll still want to be a girl?"

"Mm-hm, because I enjoy being a girl now. I think I might like it the rest of my life," he says.